RE: Euro hillclimbing, a dream realised
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British Hill climbing/Sprinting has to be the dullest motorsport in the World both to watch and compete in, it's good to see someone sticking two fingers up to it and going abroad where they really know how to do it, all the best of luck to her this year.
Should a motoring journalist really be using the cringeworthy words 'Souped up' to describe a car? Sounds like something my non-petrolhead grandmother would say, great article though - can we have one on Autograss (grass tracking) now?
Should a motoring journalist really be using the cringeworthy words 'Souped up' to describe a car? Sounds like something my non-petrolhead grandmother would say, great article though - can we have one on Autograss (grass tracking) now?
TheJimi said:
Krikkit said:
rhinochopig said:
soad said:
How does that front suspension system work then? Is that a heave damper and the others are hidden or some clever single spring/damper arrangement?
What I can't work out is how a single spring / damper set-up can control the idependent movement of both front wheels.
The front suspension geometry will be anti roll, i.e. one wheels goes into bump and the other wheel will also go into bump pulling the car toward the road surface, both wheels are controlled by the single spring/damper. I believe, that the loaded wheel, i.e. the one being forced into bump will be controlled by the spring damper the other following suit. So, uneven road surfaces will cause the sprung mass (body) to move vertically, keeping both the wheels on the ground spreading the load over the contact patches of both tyres, not the single loaded tyre. I think, the two horizontally mounted units, with red anodised ends will be mini spring damper units to control the amount of anti roll.
Happy to be proven wrong, but I would imagine this is what is going on.
Happy to be proven wrong, but I would imagine this is what is going on.
226bhp said:
British Hill climbing/Sprinting has to be the dullest motorsport in the World both to watch and compete in, it's good to see someone sticking two fingers up to it and going abroad where they really know how to do it, all the best of luck to her this year.
Have you ever tried approaching the Bottom S at Shelsley or Fallow at Loton Park at 100mph? It certainly does it for me!226bhp said:
British Hill climbing/Sprinting has to be the dullest motorsport in the World both to watch and compete in, it's good to see someone sticking two fingers up to it and going abroad where they really know how to do it, all the best of luck to her this year.
Should a motoring journalist really be using the cringeworthy words 'Souped up' to describe a car? Sounds like something my non-petrolhead grandmother would say, great article though - can we have one on Autograss (grass tracking) now?
So what vehicle have you competed in and which venues out of interest?Should a motoring journalist really be using the cringeworthy words 'Souped up' to describe a car? Sounds like something my non-petrolhead grandmother would say, great article though - can we have one on Autograss (grass tracking) now?
To answer suspension queries it's essentially a pretty simple and reasonably effective monoshock system. By transferring vertical wheel movement through a bell crank to the spring/damper unit It allows for fairly compliant stiffness when both wheels are in bump, allowing for essentially good track contact, and then uses stacked belleville washers to make a stiffer spring allowing for less roll in cornering. The trade offs are arguable weight saving and simplicity/cost cutting however it doesn't allow for any form of roll damping.
The shuttle not only rocks back and forth but will move from side to side. In either end will be stacks of bellville washers that replace a traditional anti-roll bar, the stacking arrangement can be fine tuned for whatever event - elements go 'coil bound' in different stages and this means you can have the stack progressively change under load - corner entry, mid corner etc.,
It was in fashion in single seater motorsport from the mid 1990s onwards, from Formula Ford to Formula 3 but in F3 it gradually fell out of favour and twin dampers (occasionally with a third element) and a more traditional antiroll bar blade came back into favour, a system which more people feel more comfortable as its less 'alien'.
It was in fashion in single seater motorsport from the mid 1990s onwards, from Formula Ford to Formula 3 but in F3 it gradually fell out of favour and twin dampers (occasionally with a third element) and a more traditional antiroll bar blade came back into favour, a system which more people feel more comfortable as its less 'alien'.
226bhp said:
British Hill climbing/Sprinting has to be the dullest motorsport in the World both to watch and compete in, it's good to see someone sticking two fingers up to it and going abroad where they really know how to do it, all the best of luck to her this year.
Should a motoring journalist really be using the cringeworthy words 'Souped up' to describe a car? Sounds like something my non-petrolhead grandmother would say, great article though - can we have one on Autograss (grass tracking) now?
Disagree. I've only done a couple of seasons but haven't found it to be dull at all. In fact it's been a great experience, made all the better for the welcome of other competitors. I'm looking forward to doing a few events this year, although I would love to do a couple of European events at some point. Mainly because their courses are longer and give more time driving for the entry fee. Can I ask what event and car you ran, to arrive at your conclusion? Should a motoring journalist really be using the cringeworthy words 'Souped up' to describe a car? Sounds like something my non-petrolhead grandmother would say, great article though - can we have one on Autograss (grass tracking) now?
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