RE: Lotus Exige V6 Cup: Spotted

RE: Lotus Exige V6 Cup: Spotted

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kambites

67,708 posts

223 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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I'm not convinced by the random stickers stuck all over that one. hehe

Dblue

3,262 posts

202 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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kbf1981 said:
walm said:
kambites said:
PhilboSE said:
£10k difference for second hand Exige vs new Cayman GT4 wouldn't be enough to sway me, I'm afraid.
A new Exige is still cheaper than the new Cayman.
Isn't it more like £20k delta when you have added in some of the extras mentioned?
Say with a little haggling £50k vs. £70k.
Cayman GT4 = £75k after options?
Cayman S = £65-70k with decent options?

An Exige Coupe V6 with everything is £63k I think, though you can get a great one with decent kit for £50k~ second hand. Bear in mind you're likely to suffer minimal depreciation too, given the old Exige 1.8S is still £25-35k for a good supercharged one, whereas a Cayman S which cost it's first owner £60k in 2008 is worth... what now? :/
Perhaps that applies to a regular Cayman but the GT4 is a hot and sold out junior GT Porsche. Think biggish premiums for a while to begin with and glacial depreciation thereafter
Not that Lotus depreciation is at all bad and much better than most

kambites

67,708 posts

223 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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Yeah given that Porsche seem to be intending to severely limit supply in the UK, I think GT4 prices will be VERY strong on the used market for a while.

Zyp

14,728 posts

191 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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I bought an 11 month old, 1100 miles V6 Roadster for £15k less than the new price.
Whether that's indicative of the normal first year depreciation only, or I just got lucky, I don't know.

kambites

67,708 posts

223 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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Zyp said:
I bought an 11 month old, 1100 miles V6 Roadster for £15k less than the new price.
Recent Lotus cars generally seem to follow the same rather weird depreciation curve. They drop fairly quickly for the first few years then plateau at somewhere around 50-60% of their new price before starting to creep up again.

I think we'll see ordinary Exige V6s down to ~£30k at some point.

Edited by kambites on Tuesday 10th March 20:25

daytona365

1,773 posts

166 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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Very impressive figures, the only trouble is, the Porsche is a car in the true meaning, while this is closely akin to an upended glass fibre bath tub (For lightness) with a powerful imported engine (For power)!..........Do they still attach the gear shift linkages with string ? (For lightness again, no doubt ?).

kambites

67,708 posts

223 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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I don't view the Cayman being made out of a material which dissolves in water to be a positive - steel is a daft material to make a car out of, used only to save money. smile

It's funny how the Elise/Exige gets criticised for using a GRP body when cars like Astons and the Alfa 4C generally don't?

I can't argue about the gear linkage point though. Lotus do have a talent for woeful gear linkages. hehe

Edited by kambites on Tuesday 10th March 20:31

hughcam

421 posts

167 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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The Pits said:
Blowing £65k on a sportscar is a crazy thing to do. I vowed never to buy another new car again, but the Exige V6 changed all that. I couldn't do it for a car I merely admired, so I'm not remotely tempted by a Cayman or 911. I need an emotional impulse to override my better judgement against buying new. The Exige V6 is an object of sheer automotive lust! I remember thinking the F40 was expensive until I saw it in the flesh. Right there and then, if I had the means I'd have written the cheque. Normally the thought of having THAT discussion again with Mrs Pits is enough to put me off buying another car. One look at the Exige and I'm having those trousers back for a bit!

Lots of current and ex-Cayman owners have been asking about Exige V6s lately, it's a similar tale every time. They like their Caymans a lot and were very impressed to start with but have begun to yearn for something a bit more visceral, intense and communicative. It's everyday excellence becomes a bit uneventful after a while. After all, a fast Golf is an even better daily servant and a sportscar must offer some drama in exchange for some of the practicality. Porsche fans find it impossible to believe how anyone could prefer a cheap, plastic canoe made in Norfolk to their thoroughbred masterpiece of german engineering. But is it really so hard to understand? If the Cayman is as refined, precise, sophisticated and meticulous as a JS Bach recital, the Exige V6 is a Led Zeppelin concert. What for some may appear crude, uncomfortable, unsophisticated and improvised is, for others, a whole lot more fun.

Echos my feelings clap

RobM77

35,349 posts

236 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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Zyp said:
The Pits said:
Blowing £65k on a sportscar is a crazy thing to do. I vowed never to buy another new car again, but the Exige V6 changed all that. I couldn't do it for a car I merely admired, so I'm not remotely tempted by a Cayman or 911. I need an emotional impulse to override my better judgement against buying new. The Exige V6 is an object of sheer automotive lust! I remember thinking the F40 was expensive until I saw it in the flesh. Right there and then, if I had the means I'd have written the cheque. Normally the thought of having THAT discussion again with Mrs Pits is enough to put me off buying another car. One look at the Exige and I'm having those trousers back for a bit!

Lots of current and ex-Cayman owners have been asking about Exige V6s lately, it's a similar tale every time. They like their Caymans a lot and were very impressed to start with but have begun to yearn for something a bit more visceral, intense and communicative. It's everyday excellence becomes a bit uneventful after a while. After all, a fast Golf is an even better daily servant and a sportscar must offer some drama in exchange for some of the practicality. Porsche fans find it impossible to believe how anyone could prefer a cheap, plastic canoe made in Norfolk to their thoroughbred masterpiece of german engineering. But is it really so hard to understand? If the Cayman is as refined, precise, sophisticated and meticulous as a JS Bach recital, the Exige V6 is a Led Zeppelin concert. What for some may appear crude, uncomfortable, unsophisticated and improvised is, for others, a whole lot more fun.

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Amen to that.
Pretty much how I feel.
yes I agree entirely. I returned from both my Cayman S test drives thinking that it was a nice car, but rather dull, and I hated the non-linear steering and laggy throttle. The Exige V6 on the other hand, just the standard one, left me gobsmacked. The feedback, feel, linearity of controls, wonderful ride yet stiff in the corners and strong straight line speed were all simply magical. If I was to write down or somehow quantify what I want out of a sports car, the Exige V6 defines it - simple as that.

By the way - wonderful green on your car TP. I know I've asked this before, but what's the colour called again?

daytona365

1,773 posts

166 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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Most of my friends own RUF CTR3's, now that's a 'nice' Cayman.

Zyp

14,728 posts

191 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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If not a slightly expensive one...

daytona365

1,773 posts

166 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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.......Surely worth a small premium ?

Tickle

4,984 posts

206 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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daytona365 said:
Most of my friends own RUF CTR3's, now that's a 'nice' Cayman.
You have a lot of rich friends, cool story

C1RVY

2,329 posts

265 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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I've driven a couple now, and they feel as exciting as when we all first got big TVRs.

Great fun & shockingly quick - a laugh out loud scream at the red line too.

Defo on my shopping list next - looking forward to it too biggrin

djmotorsport

479 posts

245 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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The colour is Motorsport Green - Which my Exige S is :-)

21 months into ownership and it still makes me smile every day - There's no doubt that the Cayman GT4 will be a very capable piece of kit, but the Lotus works for me - and even if I wanted to, I doubt I could blag a test drive in the porker......

LeftHooker

423 posts

128 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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I have a 2013 Exige V6, it has 430 bhp and buckets of torques. I have done about 15 track days in it, including Spa and the ring, it is a total monster on track and can lap as quick as a hard driven 991 GT3 and keep going long after the GT3 needs a cool down. Faster around Spa than well driven 997.2 RS's, 458s.
These car are immense on the track, the running costs are so much lower than the exotics.

As others have said on this thread, worth a drive if you like to go fast, I have yet to come up against another road car that can lap quicker.

Herman Toothrot

6,702 posts

200 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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Love it . If ever there was a car that's more the sum of its parts then this is it, although that cabin looks frighteningly no different except the addition on a cup holder to my old 2002 VX220.

redroadster

1,773 posts

234 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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Would very much like to drive one,it seems owners really like it I suppose the comparison with the Porche may be settled with how much daily driving you need to do can,t see the lotus as a better everyday proposition compared to the Cayman however if used regularly on track I can see the lotus been the best car for the job .

XBOW

1,670 posts

183 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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hughcam said:
The Pits said:
Blowing £65k on a sportscar is a crazy thing to do. I vowed never to buy another new car again, but the Exige V6 changed all that. I couldn't do it for a car I merely admired, so I'm not remotely tempted by a Cayman or 911. I need an emotional impulse to override my better judgement against buying new. The Exige V6 is an object of sheer automotive lust! I remember thinking the F40 was expensive until I saw it in the flesh. Right there and then, if I had the means I'd have written the cheque. Normally the thought of having THAT discussion again with Mrs Pits is enough to put me off buying another car. One look at the Exige and I'm having those trousers back for a bit!

Lots of current and ex-Cayman owners have been asking about Exige V6s lately, it's a similar tale every time. They like their Caymans a lot and were very impressed to start with but have begun to yearn for something a bit more visceral, intense and communicative. It's everyday excellence becomes a bit uneventful after a while. After all, a fast Golf is an even better daily servant and a sportscar must offer some drama in exchange for some of the practicality. Porsche fans find it impossible to believe how anyone could prefer a cheap, plastic canoe made in Norfolk to their thoroughbred masterpiece of german engineering. But is it really so hard to understand? If the Cayman is as refined, precise, sophisticated and meticulous as a JS Bach recital, the Exige V6 is a Led Zeppelin concert. What for some may appear crude, uncomfortable, unsophisticated and improvised is, for others, a whole lot more fun.

Echos my feelings clap
Spot on

LeftHooker

423 posts

128 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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redroadster said:
Would very much like to drive one,it seems owners really like it I suppose the comparison with the Porche may be settled with how much daily driving you need to do can,t see the lotus as a better everyday proposition compared to the Cayman however if used regularly on track I can see the lotus been the best car for the job .
Yes, as a daily driver it is probably too compromised in my view. This is where the Porker wins for some people.