RE: Alfa GTV6: You Know You Want To

[soad]

GJR68 said:

Could Alfa values finally be turning a corner ? I hope so They have been at the bargain basement end for far too long !

Must be becoming rare. Corrosion and rust?

[kiseca]

soad said:

GJR68 said:

Could Alfa values finally be turning a corner ? I hope so They have been at the bargain basement end for far too long !

Must be becoming rare. Corrosion and rust?

Only now? These things are 30 years old, I expect the ones that are going to go are long gone and the ones that are left have been protected in some way. It's the classic car bubble. They've been climbing like crazy the last two and a half years and still not catching up with old Fords.

[AC43]

One of my best drives EVER was from Edinburgh to Mull and back in a black one in 1984. Radio off, Busso and exhaust soundtrack turned up to 10 and Glencoe.....it doesn't get much better.

[GTIracerr]

canucklehead said:

my father didn't have a 6; he had the 2000 4-cyl (a '77 car i think) - i remember as a 14-yr old being impressed for the first time by a car my dad owned. it was italian, looked awesome for 1978, had that weird alfa thing of only having the tach in front of the driver, which supposedly made it more racy, but wasn't in fact very practical. it also had a Blaupunkt radio - the first i'd ever seen - more euro exoticness creeping into our remote corner of the Great White North (or the 51st state, call us what you will).

unfortunately, it was still an alfa, wiht all the usual 70s alfa foibles - steel of the same gauge as tinfoil, wiht the anti-water properties of a paper bag, and a predilection for tires and clutches. although that last might have had something to do with my father's habit of making hill starts in 3rd gear......................

after 3 years he swapped it for a 5.0L Mustang 3-door. awful 4-spd manual box, weird bespoke metric michelins and a live axle, but the servicing costs were significantly cheaper!

Hello Sir,

If you have the chance, would you be so kind to send me a private message?

Thanks very much in advance!

Lars

[drumsterphil]

My old man had an X reg GTV 2.0 - absolutely awesome drivers car (for the time) - mechanically it was bullet proof and so charismatic (the bodywork less so...).

The advert car looks gorgeous, but 20k, yikes!....

[RichB]

Love these GTV6s - drove a new one on the company car back in the early 80s. This one is a great looking example and worth what the seller can get for it.

[cml]

Friend had one in the early 90s, used to drive me to work in it.

Some lovely things went wrong. Including turning it off and removing the key, and it was still running. Then he turned off the radio and it would stop. Door locks went so we had to get in one side, and get out the other. Drivers seat adjustments meant he had to drive at full stretch, or squashed against the wheel. And more. A constant source of amusement.

Looks and sounds great.

[crostonian]

daytona365 said:

20K ? Alright it looks in great shape, but not so long ago rough ones of these could be found in scrapyards & council estates !......It's nice, but it has no real pedigree, just a regular production car, unlike some of its illustrious forebears now they should be worth 20k, but they're probably nudging 50 !! That's without touching Mega Alfa territory of course.

Edited by daytona365 on Thursday 30th April 14:39

Not so sure about lack of pedigree, a GTV6 won the BTCC in 1983 albeit due to a technicality and was a successful Group A racer and rally car throughout Europe. Must agree though that I nearly fell off my chair when I saw the price, I've seen them creep up to and around £10k recently but where did the jump to £20k come from? Think mine would have to be Black or Gunmetal Grey to hide the ugly black plastics with the lovely orange velour interior.

[sunbeam alpine]

Zippee said:

sunbeam alpine said:

Joined these:



1993 Alfa 155 Q4 - ex Alfa Romeo press car bought 2 years ago with 19800 km from new and a massive folder of documents - €6200

1973 Bertone 1750 GTV - bought last year for €7500

1990 S4 Spider - bought in 2010 for €5300

Love these, especially the 1750 and the 155. Are they easy to come by in good condition for those prices?

I got the 155 Q4 (basically a Lancia Delta Integrale in an Alfa body) cheap because the tax system in the French-speaking part of Belgium is based on real HP whereas in the Flemish area it is based on engine size (this is a bit simplified but basically correct) - so the previous owner couldn't afford to register and tax the car. A Q4 is still a cheap car (imagine what price a factory Delta Integrale with less than 20000 km would be), but I got a real bargain.

The 1750 was a bargain because the guy didn't really know what he had for sale. I went expecting a pretty rough example based on the price (and it needs a small amount of cosmetic work to make it good). I've bought an Alfaholics fast road kit and also a full set of polybushes, but haven't got round to fitting them.

The guy could easily have asked €12000 for the car in the state it was and it wouldn't have been too much, but I paid the price he asked.

[thegreenhell]

Mogul said:

Happyjap said:

May I say this is a thing of great beauty!

It's the Octopussy spec...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwy8gBnKsaI

My old one was the same colour. Sounded great with the ANSA exhaust, but sadly it was more rust and filler than steel in the end, and eventually went to the great scrapyard in the sky about ten years ago.

I'd still love to have an original SA 3.0 in the collection though.

[jamies30]

The 2.5 12v in these is a nicer engine than the 3.0 anyway, I think - my favourite iteration of the Alfa V6s. The later 24v might be more powerful, but they're not quite as enjoyable.

[thegreenhell]

I agree the 2.5 is sweeter than the 3.0, but the two heavy flywheels and propshaft turning at engine speed always dulled its responses. The 2.5 12v in the 155 always felt much revvier than the rwd cars.

[davidgt4]

My GTV6 in the early 90s - even though I've eventually acquired seemingly more exotic cars it will always be very fondly remembered. Top pic is on a great Scottish tour pausing on "Rest and be Thankful" with my brother's hot hatch of the time behind. Stunning noise - I had it fettled by the fantastic Franco Colasuonno in Stockwell (he was a Fiat and Alfa guru at the time, anyone remember him?) with Ansa manifolds, lowered suspension (I always thought they sat a bit high as standard), 75 box/LSD and Momos/P7s. Most importantly it had a Momo steering wheel from the SV! Sadly it was sold as the children began to arrive - I staved off the inevitable by removing the rear squab and fitting a central child seat for the first one, but when number 2 arrived... If I tell you its replacement was a Citroen BX19 Estate then you can share my pain!

I wonder if it's still around - it was in fine fettle then but 23 years have passed and I suspect many of them have succumbed. The featured one seems remarkable, as does the price(!) but then it is pretty unique. If I was about to drop 20K on one I would give a wreck to Alex Jupe and build it to my spec, but then I always like a good mod or two on my cars.

I used to love the old AROC track days at the un-reconstructed Goodwood back then and I ran it as a daily commuter for 4 yrs at the time. Very reliable it was too and I shall gloss over the time the drive shaft disconnected itself from the inboard disc in a traffic jam on the M8 - running down the road after a disc and salvaging bolts from the middle lane whilst wife and 1 yr old daughter stood on the hard shoulder is a lasting memory! Still it taught me to torque up bolts better...

With lots of money and time it would be great to recreate one of the Touring Car racers for historics now. Another one for the fantasy garage...

[s m]

soad said:

The Maratona edition was referred to as the "Marijuana" edition, in reference to what Alfa must have been smoking at the time.



Poor quality photo, I know.

Anyone got a Chapparal?

[s m]

dinkel said:

MJK 24 said:

There was no factory 3.0 GTV6. 2.5 only.

Great car but price seems high. £6k was the ceiling for these ten years ago. That said, everything else seems to have gone mental so maybe I'm out of touch.

South Africa had 3 litre GTVs.

[carinaman]

Mogul said:

Autumn leaves on that occasion as I recall that this image was taken just after I'd treated here to what was, on reflection, a drive-through [£800] re-spray!

It looked good in that photo.

Here's the one that was on eBay in March. I don't know if it went to a new owner for that price:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Alfa-Romeo-GTV-6-2-5-Met...

[PomBstard]

If they're going for that much, might be time to import a few from warmer, RHD climates

Quarter of the price, perhaps not quite as original, but likely to be rust-free...

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Alfa-Ro...




Or this one, around 60% of the OP asking price - ad says no rust...

http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Alfa-Rom...

[Matt Bird]

robemcdonald said:

"Why you shouldn't: Pricey and not a 3.0 but other than that..."

No one would have a problem with the price if it was a Ford of similar vintage and condition.

On the subject of not being a 3.0, South African import aside they didn't make a 3.0.

Well worth it for an original non-restored car in my opinion. (for rarity value alone)

Apologies for this, saw a few 3.0s for sale and that's why it was mentioned. I'll amend the story now!


Matt

[Matt Bird]

davidgt4 said:

My GTV6 in the early 90s - even though I've eventually acquired seemingly more exotic cars it will always be very fondly remembered. Top pic is on a great Scottish tour pausing on "Rest and be Thankful" with my brother's hot hatch of the time behind. Stunning noise - I had it fettled by the fantastic Franco Colasuonno in Stockwell (he was a Fiat and Alfa guru at the time, anyone remember him?) with Ansa manifolds, lowered suspension (I always thought they sat a bit high as standard), 75 box/LSD and Momos/P7s. Most importantly it had a Momo steering wheel from the SV! Sadly it was sold as the children began to arrive - I staved off the inevitable by removing the rear squab and fitting a central child seat for the first one, but when number 2 arrived... If I tell you its replacement was a Citroen BX19 Estate then you can share my pain!

I wonder if it's still around - it was in fine fettle then but 23 years have passed and I suspect many of them have succumbed. The featured one seems remarkable, as does the price(!) but then it is pretty unique. If I was about to drop 20K on one I would give a wreck to Alex Jupe and build it to my spec, but then I always like a good mod or two on my cars.

I used to love the old AROC track days at the un-reconstructed Goodwood back then and I ran it as a daily commuter for 4 yrs at the time. Very reliable it was too and I shall gloss over the time the drive shaft disconnected itself from the inboard disc in a traffic jam on the M8 - running down the road after a disc and salvaging bolts from the middle lane whilst wife and 1 yr old daughter stood on the hard shoulder is a lasting memory! Still it taught me to torque up bolts better...

With lots of money and time it would be great to recreate one of the Touring Car racers for historics now. Another one for the fantasy garage...

Great story and the car

[Limpet]

Beautiful car, but never £20k worth.