RE: Hate SUVs, love Range Rovers: PH Blog
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Davey S2 said:
ChemicalChaos said:
The current sport is actually bigger than the perevious generation Full Fat RR - I know, because my neighbour parked his sport next to mine! Given that my FF sint exactly small, it makes we wonder how massive the new one is.
There is no way the new Sport is bigger than the old FF. You can instantly see the size difference on the road.So, six o' one etc...
Davey S2 said:
There is no way the new Sport is bigger than the old FF. You can instantly see the size difference on the road.
2002-2012 FFRR Length 195in Width 75 in2013- RRS Length 191 in Width 81 in
Ok, so pretty much the same Length ways but a bit lardier widthways. Given the current FF is bigger than the RRS, my point still stands.
Rubbish.
They're far too big for many of Britain's roads and worse than that, they're considerably too big for the driving talents of a large proportion of their drivers.
I'm almost at the point of homicide due to the number of times I've been stuck behind one that wont pass parked vehicles either because it won't fit or the driver won't go when it does fit.
Worse still, there's country roads where I live. These things don't belong anywhere near them what so ever. I'm literally ****ing a brick when one comes the other way and I face a scratch on my passenger side from the bush or a write off on the drivers side because they misjudged it.
Horrible things that serve no purpose other than to flaunt some kind of wealth/status.
I could rant about these things until the end of time. HATEFUL.
And I don't reserve this hate for Rangies either. Anything that's excessively big on the outside used for private road use is ridiculous.
Get an S Class or a 7 Series if you want space.
If you go off road, get a Defender.
They're far too big for many of Britain's roads and worse than that, they're considerably too big for the driving talents of a large proportion of their drivers.
I'm almost at the point of homicide due to the number of times I've been stuck behind one that wont pass parked vehicles either because it won't fit or the driver won't go when it does fit.
Worse still, there's country roads where I live. These things don't belong anywhere near them what so ever. I'm literally ****ing a brick when one comes the other way and I face a scratch on my passenger side from the bush or a write off on the drivers side because they misjudged it.
Horrible things that serve no purpose other than to flaunt some kind of wealth/status.
I could rant about these things until the end of time. HATEFUL.
And I don't reserve this hate for Rangies either. Anything that's excessively big on the outside used for private road use is ridiculous.
Get an S Class or a 7 Series if you want space.
If you go off road, get a Defender.
Love mine. Just the right amount of everything and a doddle to punt down the windiest of lanes. The new active roll tech on the v8 models gives car like handling unlike the old l322....ive certainly surprised many a 'sportscar' in my neck of the woods.
On the flip side it cossets with the best of them and a great place to be after a long day at work. Brilliant and no other SUV comes close.
On the flip side it cossets with the best of them and a great place to be after a long day at work. Brilliant and no other SUV comes close.
sealtt said:
As for looks, well they look very similar from the front that is true, by side profile and rear view the difference is obvious. The vogue is a proper Range Rover with the tall upright styling and those tall lights, whereas the sport is slicker and more like a cayenne. Just looks exactly like a big evoque which really put me off.
The evoque comment sums up my view on the back of the sport, theres not a big enough design difference between the back of the sport and back of the evoque. That said the SVR looks a million miles better and the back looks how it always should have!I agree, Dan. The current FFRR is very stylish and understated, although the previous generation looks a lot better. Never has a large off-roader had such style and also been capable of good off-road performance (IMO, of course). I keep trying to justify having one, but I'm not there yet.
As someone else said. It outclasses so many more expensive and exotic machines.
As someone else said. It outclasses so many more expensive and exotic machines.
dandare said:
I agree, Dan. The current FFRR is very stylish and understated, although the previous generation looks a lot better. Never has a large off-roader had such style and also been capable of good off-road performance (IMO, of course). I keep trying to justify having one, but I'm not there yet.
As someone else said. It outclasses so many more expensive and exotic machines.
The only time that you'll feel 'inferior' is if someone turns up in a Holland and Holland Range Rover - Not to my taste thought the cabinet weighs silly amounts. And I am never allowed a green car either As someone else said. It outclasses so many more expensive and exotic machines.
FFRR Suits grey best in my opinion
Saw a Matte Baby Blue one in Nottingham Yesterday
ChemicalChaos said:
Personally, I think the current RR is far too "Cheshire", in chasing after the taste-bereft new money they have lost some of the fantastically understated and regal image that all RRs used to have.
I don't agree. In the right colour scheme, with a small wheel option I still think they cut it.
mattf93 said:
The only time that you'll feel 'inferior' is if someone turns up in a Holland and Holland Range Rover - Not to my taste thought the cabinet weighs silly amounts. And I am never allowed a green car either
The H&H P38 was a gorgeous thing. Undertaken as a factory special project, it oozed taste, sophistication and old money. The only giveaways were the colour-coded wheel spokes, and the genuine shotgun wood interior with a tiny H&H inlay in each door capping:
The L322 (and the new one), being Overfinch projects, are typically OTT as befits the modern day Overfinch clientele. The bodykit, the huge wheels, and the ridiculous drinks cabinet and rear centre console somehow seems all rather undignified. The wood also manages to look like 90s Rover plastic wood
Remember... money shouts, wealth whispers
ChemicalChaos said:
The H&H P38 was a gorgeous thing. Undertaken as a factory special project, it oozed taste, sophistication and old money. The only giveaways were the colour-coded wheel spokes, and the genuine shotgun wood interior with a tiny H&H inlay in each door capping:
The L322 (and the new one), being Overfinch projects, are typically OTT as befits the modern day Overfinch clientele. The bodykit, the huge wheels, and the ridiculous drinks cabinet and rear centre console somehow seems all rather undignified. The wood also manages to look like 90s Rover plastic wood
Remember... money shouts, wealth whispers
L322 Wood looks like the wood we had in our Mk2 V6 Mondeo Estate we had in the later 90s! Im sure it has some fabulous process done to it to justify the mental prices mind you.The L322 (and the new one), being Overfinch projects, are typically OTT as befits the modern day Overfinch clientele. The bodykit, the huge wheels, and the ridiculous drinks cabinet and rear centre console somehow seems all rather undignified. The wood also manages to look like 90s Rover plastic wood
Remember... money shouts, wealth whispers
I might be odd in my opinion but I have never liked not seeing the exhausts/surround on rangerovers, so I used to like the OF Kits but was never a fan of the wheels.
Same on new sport and FFRR backs look odd standard to me. That said £25K for the kit alone on a range rover is a lot of money! (Apparently Overfinch don't do any discounts on their kits either).
However I wouldn't say no to a 'standard' FFRR but I think it looks far better on bigger alloys - not sure whether you can go off road that easily with the 21/22" wheels.
T0MMY said:
Aeroresh said:
The new active roll tech on the v8 models gives car like handling unlike the old l322....ive certainly surprised many a 'sportscar' in my neck of the woods.
Perhaps in a straight line, assuming it's not a powerful sportscar. Willy Nilly said:
I followed an L322 on my bike a few weeks ago. It was being hustled along quite well and was not unlike following the Queen Mary
That's kind of it though, hustled "quite well", a bit like that Steve Sutcliffe video on the SVR..."it doesn't feel totally at sea on a track". Faint praise indeed if you're not interested in the image and size so just judge along the same lines as any other vehicle, especially £100k, 550 bhp vehicles built specifically to be driver's cars.From my perspective I don't feel impressed by something that drives almost as well as a car when it's quite easy to get something that handles as well as a car, that thing being a car.
Edited by T0MMY on Wednesday 13th May 09:01
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