RE: TVR T350C: Spotted

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DJRC

23,563 posts

238 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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Speed 3 said:
Bladedancer said:
Clutches last 15k miles. So they outlast the engine then :P ?
I'm going to hide in my box now boxedin
That's why it's so satisfying to be in the exclusive club that knows different wink
Yeah! I got over 18k with my clutch smile

The T350 was always too conservative looking for me. My reflex charcoal Sagaris was quite a tame colour by TVR standards but man, modern Hypercars have nothing on a Sagaris for letting the general public know who the boss is.

justin220

5,355 posts

206 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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God I loved mine, I still miss it daily and probably shouldn't have sold it.

Never had a single issue with mine, only a few character traits such as the window wouldn't close over 30mph, and the glovebox opened over slight bumps.

Fantastic sound, maybe not the best handling but this was improved with a set of coilovers.

I fitted all new brakes, big service, and coilovers, then convinced myself it was the ideal time to sell it frown


Speed 3

4,664 posts

121 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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DJRC said:
Speed 3 said:
Bladedancer said:
Clutches last 15k miles. So they outlast the engine then :P ?
I'm going to hide in my box now boxedin
That's why it's so satisfying to be in the exclusive club that knows different wink
Yeah! I got over 18k with my clutch smile
Funny, my Tuscan's on it's original clutch (and engine) after 55k. Maybe me and the previous owner do "mechanical sympathy" better than some wink


BJG1

5,966 posts

214 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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DJRC said:
The T350 was always too conservative looking for me. My reflex charcoal Sagaris was quite a tame colour by TVR standards but man, modern Hypercars have nothing on a Sagaris for letting the general public know who the boss is.
This. The T350 is quite pretty but it's not stunning. The front lights look a bit weird with the big gap at the bottom and I don't like the back of them. For £38k there's a lot of other cars I'd have. The Sag really stands out in its price range though, sure you'll get something faster and more reliable but you won't get anything that looks and sounds so utterly epic.

DonkeyApple

55,911 posts

171 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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‘Originally intended as a replacement for the Tuscan racer, it evolved to become a road car to sit below the Tuscan and eventually the Sagaris.’

I don't believe that is quite right.

The project to replace the Tuscan Racer began in 98 and by 2000 the carbon fibre TuscanR prototype had been built.

By 2001 it had been rebranded as the T400R and began racing, replacing the Tuscan Racers.

FIA homologation for Le Mans required a two model line up so the second T400R road car was rebranded as the T440R.

In 2002 the T400R model was dropped and the T550 (Typhon) was introduced.

At the 2003 motorshow when the T350 was first shown it was shown alongside the new Typhon and the T400R racing cars had been in the field for 2 years, before the idea of the T350 was born.


Matt Bird

1,456 posts

207 months

PH Reportery Lad

Friday 5th June 2015
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DonkeyApple said:
‘Originally intended as a replacement for the Tuscan racer, it evolved to become a road car to sit below the Tuscan and eventually the Sagaris.’

I don't believe that is quite right.

The project to replace the Tuscan Racer began in 98 and by 2000 the carbon fibre TuscanR prototype had been built.

By 2001 it had been rebranded as the T400R and began racing, replacing the Tuscan Racers.

FIA homologation for Le Mans required a two model line up so the second T400R road car was rebranded as the T440R.

In 2002 the T400R model was dropped and the T550 (Typhon) was introduced.

At the 2003 motorshow when the T350 was first shown it was shown alongside the new Typhon and the T400R racing cars had been in the field for 2 years, before the idea of the T350 was born.
Oh right, thanks for the clarification. Just going off a well regarded source. Interesting story! Every day a school day and that...


Matt

DonkeyApple

55,911 posts

171 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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Matt Bird said:
DonkeyApple said:
‘Originally intended as a replacement for the Tuscan racer, it evolved to become a road car to sit below the Tuscan and eventually the Sagaris.’

I don't believe that is quite right.

The project to replace the Tuscan Racer began in 98 and by 2000 the carbon fibre TuscanR prototype had been built.

By 2001 it had been rebranded as the T400R and began racing, replacing the Tuscan Racers.

FIA homologation for Le Mans required a two model line up so the second T400R road car was rebranded as the T440R.

In 2002 the T400R model was dropped and the T550 (Typhon) was introduced.

At the 2003 motorshow when the T350 was first shown it was shown alongside the new Typhon and the T400R racing cars had been in the field for 2 years, before the idea of the T350 was born.
Oh right, thanks for the clarification. Just going off a well regarded source. Interesting story! Every day a school day and that...


Matt
Your source may well be correct but certainly by 1999 they were developing the TuscanR to replace the racers. When I was researching the history of the Le Mans cars I never heard anything about the T350 being spawned as a concept ahead of that. But then I wasn't asking about that model.

A little bit of history here: www.tvr-Typhon.com

DJRC

23,563 posts

238 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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DA, its probably cheating for you and me to stick our oars in on here smile

You know, I'm never quite sure if I truely miss the Sag. The Griff is an instant yes, the Sag hmmm... On a bad day, knowing you had 50k+ in the car as it blew its window out, snapped the throttle cable, blew another sensor and locked me out of it - it made you want to cry and worse.

On a good day with 150 on the clock as it terrified you that the bonnet was coming off - you knew you were alive.

A great day was the d641 in south west France.

A great day in the Griff was just going to work in it.

steveT350C

6,728 posts

163 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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According to a certain ex TVR employee, who now runs Str8six, the T350 was purely the result of turning the Tamora into a coupe and subsequently a track car. They had to make the rump look nice as that is the only view other drivers would get to see. biggrin




DonkeyApple

55,911 posts

171 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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DJRC said:
DA, its probably cheating for you and me to stick our oars in on here smile

You know, I'm never quite sure if I truely miss the Sag. The Griff is an instant yes, the Sag hmmm... On a bad day, knowing you had 50k+ in the car as it blew its window out, snapped the throttle cable, blew another sensor and locked me out of it - it made you want to cry and worse.

On a good day with 150 on the clock as it terrified you that the bonnet was coming off - you knew you were alive.

A great day was the d641 in south west France.

A great day in the Griff was just going to work in it.
Evening. Hope all is well.

I still remember being 21 and at my sister's wedding there were a lot of rather nice cars outside but the best, for me, by far was Gerry Marshall's mica blue 4.3BV Griff. By the end of the evening I had bought it off him.

I kept it for over 12 years and for 7 of those I drove an absolutely awful Pug 405D so that at the weekend I could afford to drive the Griff. Almost every Friday I'd be leaving work excited about opening up the garage and firing it up.

When I eventually sold it it was to buy a T350. It's my favourite of the T cars. The Sag styling was too aggressive for me and I thought the T350 was a very elegant little English sportscar. I still recall the time on the Fosse Way when I learned after some time of ownership that the throttle went down further than I'd appreciated and how that engine just howled like a banshee above 6000 rpm. It was unbelievable. And how it handled was in a different league to the Griff. So much stiffer and more poised and easy to play on the throttle. The Griff was a rough old bird at speed. I recall how on a final run in to Calais I worked out that the weird drumming through my feet was the nose of the car lifting up at 130 into a head wind.

Then when Maclaren announced the MP12 I put a deposit down but then discovered our first child was on the way so cancelled it. A short while later I learned that the original Orange Typhon had escaped from the receivers and was available. Having placed a deposit on one back some time in 2003 but losing it when the company folded I couldn't resist and so started a year of buying it and fitting a new engine and gearbox. That car is a league again on from the T cars. The handling is amazing and with two child seats in the back it has allowed me to retain a TVR in the garage.

There is no doubt that the Typhon was thebpinnaclenof TVR and it is the most phenominal car. It's unbelievable.

But when I'm asked what the best TVR is that money can buy the answer is always the same; the Griffith

Almost every TVR built since the Griff is better. Better built, better handling, better performance. But just not better.

It's the only car I regret selling and I'm pretty sure that when the kids have grown up and I've grown old the silly car that will be in my garage that makes me smile just to look at let alone start it up will be a Griff.


DJRC

23,563 posts

238 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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Amen brother.

And yes all is well ty. Im typing this looking out on ladies in bikinis on a St Lucian beach. Alas the wife is also with me but you can't have everything smile

NailedOn

3,115 posts

237 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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steveT350C said:
According to a certain ex TVR employee, who now runs Str8six, the T350 was purely the result of turning the Tamora into a coupe and subsequently a track car. They had to make the rump look nice as that is the only view other drivers would get to see. biggrin



A Beauty!

My first T350C was T6 VRM.

VRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRMMMM!

Then I went upmarket to a RR. A cracker. Good from all angles.
One day the aficionados will latch on.

wst

3,494 posts

163 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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I saw one last Bank Holiday weekend. Knew it was a TVR but had to read the name to know what it was. Bloody lovely, I can't think of any post-wedge era TVRs that aren't gorgeous shapes - definitely distinctive.


sebhaque

6,414 posts

183 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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Axionknight said:
Two excellent cars there Sir yes
Fanks spin

chris watton said:
I did - the lease on that phrase is almost up, and I didn't want the balloon payment, so handing it back in. Thought I'd make the most of it. hehe
hehe Fair enough - I thought I was having a moment for a minute. What's the new diff like? My T350's standard apart from a JP exhaust, does the diff make that much of a difference? I think the car's pretty much perfect as it is (except it's not short people-friendly, but never mind) but I'd be interested to know how to fettle the car when I get used to it in a year or so.

yonex said:
Stop it. The more I look at them the more I'm thinking of not going for an M3 and instead going with the 350. Id say this and the 355 are up there with the best proportioned cars of recent years.
You're absolutely right. An M3 is a great car - I had an E46 M3 - but the TVR is such a different beast that it's like comparing a Nintendo 3DS with an Oculus Rift. One's practical and can be used in most situations, the other's an occasion every time you use it and something you'll never get tired of.
I found this link earlier that might be of help:
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/t...
wink

DonkeyApple

55,911 posts

171 months

Friday 5th June 2015
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It was a fun car.

I'd forgotten that it used to bigger my back because to stop the seats from rubbing on the rollcage they shimmed them up on one side!

Gorbyrev

1,160 posts

156 months

Saturday 6th June 2015
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Though I would prefer a Mk1 Tuscan in flip flop purple reflex green we are really splitting hairs here. http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/t...
What a marvellous piece of automotive wonder the T350 is.

Gorbyrev

1,160 posts

156 months

Saturday 6th June 2015
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DonkeyApple said:
DJRC said:
DA, its probably cheating for you and me to stick our oars in on here smile

You know, I'm never quite sure if I truely miss the Sag. The Griff is an instant yes, the Sag hmmm... On a bad day, knowing you had 50k+ in the car as it blew its window out, snapped the throttle cable, blew another sensor and locked me out of it - it made you want to cry and worse.

On a good day with 150 on the clock as it terrified you that the bonnet was coming off - you knew you were alive.

A great day was the d641 in south west France.

A great day in the Griff was just going to work in it.
Evening. Hope all is well.

I still remember being 21 and at my sister's wedding there were a lot of rather nice cars outside but the best, for me, by far was Gerry Marshall's mica blue 4.3BV Griff. By the end of the evening I had bought it off him.

I kept it for over 12 years and for 7 of those I drove an absolutely awful Pug 405D so that at the weekend I could afford to drive the Griff. Almost every Friday I'd be leaving work excited about opening up the garage and firing it up.

When I eventually sold it it was to buy a T350. It's my favourite of the T cars. The Sag styling was too aggressive for me and I thought the T350 was a very elegant little English sportscar. I still recall the time on the Fosse Way when I learned after some time of ownership that the throttle went down further than I'd appreciated and how that engine just howled like a banshee above 6000 rpm. It was unbelievable. And how it handled was in a different league to the Griff. So much stiffer and more poised and easy to play on the throttle. The Griff was a rough old bird at speed. I recall how on a final run in to Calais I worked out that the weird drumming through my feet was the nose of the car lifting up at 130 into a head wind.

Then when Maclaren announced the MP12 I put a deposit down but then discovered our first child was on the way so cancelled it. A short while later I learned that the original Orange Typhon had escaped from the receivers and was available. Having placed a deposit on one back some time in 2003 but losing it when the company folded I couldn't resist and so started a year of buying it and fitting a new engine and gearbox. That car is a league again on from the T cars. The handling is amazing and with two child seats in the back it has allowed me to retain a TVR in the garage.

There is no doubt that the Typhon was thebpinnaclenof TVR and it is the most phenominal car. It's unbelievable.

But when I'm asked what the best TVR is that money can buy the answer is always the same; the Griffith

Almost every TVR built since the Griff is better. Better built, better handling, better performance. But just not better.

It's the only car I regret selling and I'm pretty sure that when the kids have grown up and I've grown old the silly car that will be in my garage that makes me smile just to look at let alone start it up will be a Griff.
I take it that's the one Racing Green have for sale. That car looks amazing! http://www.racinggreentvr.com/car-sales/TVR-Typhon...

Axionknight

8,505 posts

137 months

Saturday 6th June 2015
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justin220 said:
God I loved mine, I still miss it daily and probably shouldn't have sold it.

Never had a single issue with mine, only a few character traits such as the window wouldn't close over 30mph, and the glovebox opened over slight bumps.

Fantastic sound, maybe not the best handling but this was improved with a set of coilovers.

I fitted all new brakes, big service, and coilovers, then convinced myself it was the ideal time to sell it frown

Good God, look at that. licklicklick

Baryonyx

18,028 posts

161 months

Saturday 6th June 2015
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steveT350C said:
According to a certain ex TVR employee, who now runs Str8six, the T350 was purely the result of turning the Tamora into a coupe and subsequently a track car. They had to make the rump look nice as that is the only view other drivers would get to see. biggrin
I'm glad they altered the Tamora front end to make it into the T350, as the Tamora was a right mess to look at. A rare misstep for TVR styling.

DonkeyApple

55,911 posts

171 months

Saturday 6th June 2015
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Gorbyrev said:
I take it that's the one Racing Green have for sale. That car looks amazing! http://www.racinggreentvr.com/car-sales/TVR-Typhon...
Yes, that's it. No longer for sale though.