RE: Bentley Bentayga Diesel - official!

RE: Bentley Bentayga Diesel - official!

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budgie smuggler

5,525 posts

165 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Not that I imagine these will ever be used off road, but is 4WD with open diffs at the back (and I presume front, though it's not specified) not a bit pointless?

nightflight

814 posts

223 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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I saw two of these together recently. By far the fugliest cars I have ever seen.

James Junior

842 posts

163 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Bentley in catering for global demand shocker!

jhonn

1,595 posts

155 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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budgie smuggler said:
Not that I imagine these will ever be used off road, but is 4WD with open diffs at the back (and I presume front, though it's not specified) not a bit pointless?
Thing is, Bentley (wisely) are deliberately not going after the RR's crown of 'Best 4x4xFar'. Having superior off-road ability has always been the core RR attribute and they market it as that; some buyers may even have a real want/need for that ability. I wouldn't think that is so important to the typical Bentley buyer - in reality it has all the off-road ability it will ever need.

GranCab

2,914 posts

152 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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MDMA . said:
GranCab said:
MDMA . said:
can see a few of the DFS type sofa company bosses buying these. 50 plus, died hair, Marbella tan and some overpriced sparkly watch.
About 5 stereotypes too many in that quote ...
are you 4 out of 5 ?
0 out of 5

I suggest your post was motivated by envy.

Leroy902

1,549 posts

109 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Only a mother can love comes to mind.

This makes Chinese knockoffs look amazing.
Pathetic.

J4CKO

42,732 posts

206 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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I dont get it,

"I am going to spend 150 grand on a honking great luxury Bentley SUV, but buy a diesel engined one to save a few quid on fuel, me being thrifty and all"

Its like spotting Richard Branson doing his shopping in Lidl or Madonna wandering round Primark.

Diesels are for people pretending to be wealthy, i.e. those well off but still have to work to a budget but I thought Bentleys are for actual, properly wealthy people for who fuel cost is just not an issue ?

I cant see any other advantage,

Power delivery, surely the W12 600 odd bhp lump does anything a diesel lump can or anyone can reasonably need ?

Sound, am sure it will sound better than a 106 diesel but there should be no clatter or hint of tight arse diesel noise, it may sound good, for a diesel.

Range, ok, it may go a bit further, all the way to Monaco on one tank, but would you clatter up to your hotel in a diesel ?

Resale, are Bentley owners really worried about a minor difference in resale ?

Am sure it will sell, but cant see who would buy it, what is the thought process where you end up at an 150 grand diesel SUV, whats next a Gulfstream with an Ryanair sourced interior ?


Is it for some £999 a month lease special ?

sinbaddio

2,440 posts

182 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Can't wait to see if anyone gets 35+mpg out of one - it'll be truly amazing if they can!

KTF

9,997 posts

156 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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No 'proper' locking diff 4WD system - target market doesn't care.
Subjective looks - target market doesn't care.
That its a tarted up Q7 - target market doesn't care.
Various VAG components - target market doesnt care.

I doubt Bentley cares either given they are selling every single one they can make and having to increase production to cope.


KTF

9,997 posts

156 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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J4CKO said:
I dont get it,

"I am going to spend 150 grand on a honking great luxury Bentley SUV, but buy a diesel engined one to save a few quid on fuel, me being thrifty and all"
Newc said:
We don't. What we do find annoying in the cars we travel in the front of is having to plan around refuelling. This is particularly irksome if you're in the mountains or en route to the Med. So 30mpg vs 10mpg is much more convenient for the same size tank.

458man

2,714 posts

213 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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To all those dissing the car go and drive one - they are (the W12 that is) bloody fantastic to drive - power delivery is effortless and smooth and it sounds pretty good too.

They are not the best of lookers but they are beginning to grow on me. Will I buy one? No not until they stop to £70k at which point they will make a Range Rover seem pointless.

George111

6,930 posts

257 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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458man said:
They are not the best of lookers but they are beginning to grow on me.
Like a wart ? wink

berlintaxi

8,535 posts

179 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Great car, would have one in a heartbeat.

James Junior

842 posts

163 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Leroy902 said:
Only a mother can love comes to mind.

This makes Chinese knockoffs look amazing.
Pathetic.
They are a company and thus in the business of making money. Their order book suggests they are doing rather well with the Bentayga.

Whether a few die-hard performance car lovers like us like the looks or not is irrelevant really.

I am not a fan of the aesthetics either having seen them in te metal, but not sure 'pathetic' is a word I would choose to describe what can only be described as a global commercial success.

George111

6,930 posts

257 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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James Junior said:
Leroy902 said:
Only a mother can love comes to mind.

This makes Chinese knockoffs look amazing.
Pathetic.
They are a company and thus in the business of making money. Their order book suggests they are doing rather well with the Bentayga.

Whether a few die-hard performance car lovers like us like the looks or not is irrelevant really.

I am not a fan of the aesthetics either having seen them in te metal, but not sure 'pathetic' is a word I would choose to describe what can only be described as a global commercial success.
They are clearly designed to appeal to a certain kind of person in the main, with probably a much smaller number like us who appreciate the engineering. But I appreciate the simplistic engineering in a 2CV but it doesn't make it attractive smile


JZZ30

1,088 posts

121 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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If only they made a pick-up version

J4CKO

42,732 posts

206 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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KTF said:
J4CKO said:
I dont get it,

"I am going to spend 150 grand on a honking great luxury Bentley SUV, but buy a diesel engined one to save a few quid on fuel, me being thrifty and all"
Newc said:
We don't. What we do find annoying in the cars we travel in the front of is having to plan around refuelling. This is particularly irksome if you're in the mountains or en route to the Med. So 30mpg vs 10mpg is much more convenient for the same size tank.
Yeah, that is the only advantage of a diesel and I doubt it will be three times more economical anyway, most big diesel SUV's only do early twenties on shorter runs and though I guess a W12 one will do low teens, I suspect it will be better on longer journeys, late teens into early twenties.

probably 50 percent better on fuel, not 300 percent.


I dont mind the looks but I think I would find it a bit embarrassing, a few round here now and you can almost hear people muttering rude words under their breath at the owners, probably jealousy but it is a bit too blingy, but that is just me being a bit of an anti snob, am sure I could learn to live with it.



Edited by J4CKO on Wednesday 21st September 11:24

Ares

11,000 posts

126 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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People who could/would never buy a Bentley complaining about a car that people that could, do. Now criticising the manufacturer for making more of a car that is already outstripping supply, and for putting a more suitable, very new-tech engine in such a car.

I'm sure Bentley are gutted to lose majority of your support wink

458man

2,714 posts

213 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Just had a play on the configurator - this ones a 7 seater. Winner!

peter450

1,650 posts

239 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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458man said:
To all those dissing the car go and drive one - they are (the W12 that is) bloody fantastic to drive - power delivery is effortless and smooth and it sounds pretty good too.

They are not the best of lookers but they are beginning to grow on me. Will I buy one? No not until they stop to £70k at which point they will make a Range Rover seem pointless.
Not really a Range Rover is a proper off roader albeit one that's got lots of bells and whistles to cater for the fact most of the buyers won't go off road.

However it's a bit like supercar syndrome how often do you see a supercar actually going at supercar speeds, not very often but a big part of the ownership experience is knowing the performance is their.

This is a fancy X5, nothing more, nothing less, this is hardly going to touch their sales