6 People Hit by 458 Scud This Morning in Battersea
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Funnily enough, i was out for a walk at the weekend and couldn't help but notice the amount of oil/fuel/crap on the roads in this wet weather. Up close it was surprising, and i can't say i really notice any of it whilst actually in the car.
Anyway, not making an excuse for this driver. Seen some shocking driving by people showing of in London and am surprised there's not more incidents like this.
Anyway, not making an excuse for this driver. Seen some shocking driving by people showing of in London and am surprised there's not more incidents like this.
FurtiveFreddy said:
p1stonhead said:
Is it proven he didn't hit a patch of diesel or something?
That old one...Not saying it was this but a tad harsh to have a go until we know no? Could have been any of us in a car like that - not everyone with a Ferrari drives like a t
t round town. p1stonhead said:
FurtiveFreddy said:
p1stonhead said:
Is it proven he didn't hit a patch of diesel or something?
That old one...Not saying it was this but a tad harsh to have a go until we know no? Could have been any of us in a car like that - not everyone with a Ferrari drives like a t
t round town. Whilst most of us are perfectly responsible behind the wheel of performance cars, by the same token if he was driving at normal speed (it was London, that means 30mph or increasingly the stupid 20mph) you'd have to suddenly find the entire road covered in sheet ice to travel that far out of control. I've hit diesel patches on motorbikes at 30mph before and whilst it was a bum-clenching moment, it was no more than that.
p1stonhead said:
FurtiveFreddy said:
p1stonhead said:
Is it proven he didn't hit a patch of diesel or something?
That old one...Not saying it was this but a tad harsh to have a go until we know no? Could have been any of us in a car like that - not everyone with a Ferrari drives like a t
t round town. Greg66 said:
p1stonhead said:
FurtiveFreddy said:
p1stonhead said:
Is it proven he didn't hit a patch of diesel or something?
That old one...Not saying it was this but a tad harsh to have a go until we know no? Could have been any of us in a car like that - not everyone with a Ferrari drives like a t
t round town. p1stonhead said:
Never hit one have you? I have it's ridiculously slippy.
I have, as well as black ice, standing water and all the other conditions some drivers use an excuse when they end up in a hedge/ditch/crowd of people.My comment was more to do with the fact that poor drivers look for an excuse when they lose control and crash, rather than admitting they were going too fast for the conditions or didn't have the skill to regain control.
Looking at the photos from this story, the road does not appear to be covered in oil or be in particularly bad condition and if it was that bad there would have been plenty more cars pointing in all sorts of directions before the Ferrari came along.
Also, diesel isn't invisible you know. Looking a the road surface and spotting diesel/petrol/mud/water spills is all part of the skill they call driving. Particularly if you're in a powerful RWD car.
Edited by FurtiveFreddy on Monday 12th December 17:33
FurtiveFreddy said:
Looking at the photos from this story, the road does not appear to be covered in oil or be in particularly bad condition and if it was that bad there would have been plenty more cars pointing in all sorts of directions before the Ferrari came along.
There's some short video clips appearing on Twitter which would seem to be the usual types of test in an accident investigation - no obvious road conditions or vehicle conditions which would suggest the vehicle might not accelerate and stop on a straight line.....
FurtiveFreddy said:
Also, diesel isn't invisible you know. Looking a the road surface and spotting diesel/petrol/mud/water spills is all part of the skill they call driving. Particularly if you're in a powerful RWD car.
One of the reasons in JayEmm's Britain we will all do six months on a motorbike before getting a car. My personal favourite used to be those bits of glossy stuff they surround repaired bits of tarmac with. Like glass when wet.Edited by FurtiveFreddy on Monday 12th December 17:33
R8Steve said:
TooMany2cvs said:
mgv8 said:
There was wrong doing going on but to what level is the only question?
Not really... Shouldn't be very hard to get a guilty verdict on a dangerous driving charge.The law said:
Driving that falls far below the standard of a competent and careful driver
I'd be obliged if you'd be so kind as to explain the circumstances in which a competent and careful driver in a 30mph limit can lose control of a car - any car - so comprehensively as to skittle half a dozen pedestrians - including sending at least one clear over a set of railings...
The Police, who've had a rather better look at the scene than either you or I, seem to have thought it appropriate to arrest the driver for dangerous driving. Some of the media are quoting witnesses as saying that the Ferrari driver was "racing" a Range Rover - let's wait and see on that one.
p1stonhead said:
Never hit one have you? I have it's ridiculously slippy.
Once, followed a bus on a right turn at the lights. I ended up facing the wrong way, and given I was following a Bus and driving an MR2 you can imagine just how slowly I was going. By the time I had started to react it was too late.
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