RE: Mountain bike rack vs. Jaguar: PH Videoblog
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hora said:
100miles each way every weekend?!?
How can you be at your best after such a journey and facing the return drive home unless you sleep over?
Hopefully not a trail centre either unless it's BPW
Without wanting to get drawn into a Pythonesque sketch about who has it worst, I moved from Plymouth to Southampton and for me the nearest decent place to ride DH is Gawton (least until UKBP is back up and running properly again), 160 miles each way which I've done there, ride and back in one day a few times. Luckily I now need to spend a couple of days every few months down that way so I get hotel stay paid for and can ride in the evenings How can you be at your best after such a journey and facing the return drive home unless you sleep over?
Hopefully not a trail centre either unless it's BPW
dcartner said:
Hmmmm not sure I agree with this.
Although I only go out once, maybe twice a month, some of the journeys can be long, e.g. Yorkshire to Llandegla. I can't think of a better place to spend the journey than a plush '50 grand' car. Afterall most trail centres have changing facilities (for the shy men amongst us)! Granted we have an RRS so do just put the bikes in the boot with the seats flat, perhaps if I had another 20k to put into a Transporter... but that's another story
Not sure a £500 shed would have heated seats, which if you ride through the winter are a godsend!
Just my 50p though, each to their own.
Do agree the seesucker seems awfully expensive regardless.
Check out the barge thread then! Plenty of cheap old BMW/merc/Volvo etc estates around that would swallow up a ton of biking gear and be nice and comfy too :-) maybe not at £500 but certainly £1000-£1500 would bag something with heated seatsAlthough I only go out once, maybe twice a month, some of the journeys can be long, e.g. Yorkshire to Llandegla. I can't think of a better place to spend the journey than a plush '50 grand' car. Afterall most trail centres have changing facilities (for the shy men amongst us)! Granted we have an RRS so do just put the bikes in the boot with the seats flat, perhaps if I had another 20k to put into a Transporter... but that's another story
Not sure a £500 shed would have heated seats, which if you ride through the winter are a godsend!
Just my 50p though, each to their own.
Do agree the seesucker seems awfully expensive regardless.
I went down the Fiat Multipla route.
I usually leave one rear seat in, and bikes can be stood upright inside.
Safer, cleaner (for the bike), less vulnerable to theft, less impact on fuel usage.
It's also my daily driver (if I don't ride to work)
Cost £700.
It's telling that the family prefer it for long journeys, too. Lots of space and very comfortable. Pig Ugly, mind.
I usually leave one rear seat in, and bikes can be stood upright inside.
Safer, cleaner (for the bike), less vulnerable to theft, less impact on fuel usage.
It's also my daily driver (if I don't ride to work)
Cost £700.
It's telling that the family prefer it for long journeys, too. Lots of space and very comfortable. Pig Ugly, mind.
hora said:
100miles each way every weekend?!?
How can you be at your best after such a journey and facing the return drive home unless you sleep over?
It's only 90 mins each way ffs.How can you be at your best after such a journey and facing the return drive home unless you sleep over?
I live in Lincoln, where there are no trail centres, or even decent bridleways within the whole county (well none with any hills suitable for mountain biking).
So, I go to North Yorkshire (Dalby Forest), Lancashire (Gisburn forest), or other places.
I can be at my 'best' quite easily, and travel there, do 2-3 hours riding, and travel back, still have enough time to clean and re-lube the bike, get a bath, all before tea-time.
I ride the red/black routes too, so I don't go easy.
Anything else you want to know ?
Evilex said:
I went down the Fiat Multipla route.
I usually leave one rear seat in, and bikes can be stood upright inside.
Safer, cleaner (for the bike), less vulnerable to theft, less impact on fuel usage.
It's also my daily driver (if I don't ride to work)
Cost £700.
It's telling that the family prefer it for long journeys, too. Lots of space and very comfortable. Pig Ugly, mind.
This ^ proves my point perfectly I usually leave one rear seat in, and bikes can be stood upright inside.
Safer, cleaner (for the bike), less vulnerable to theft, less impact on fuel usage.
It's also my daily driver (if I don't ride to work)
Cost £700.
It's telling that the family prefer it for long journeys, too. Lots of space and very comfortable. Pig Ugly, mind.
If you can't go mountain biking without heated seats and luxury interior, then come on, your not really a proper mountain biker are you.
A real mountain biker is not bothered about a 'comfortable' ride or staying clean, only a pretend mountain biker like in the video who doesn't get muddy or ride over anything more than a kerb would end a 'ride' looking that clean.
Bit like those 4x4 owners who's idea of off-roading is parking on a grass verge lol.........
My bike typically ends up like this after a ride, and who in their right mind would put that on top of a 50 grand car ?
Edited by Nik Gnashers on Saturday 21st January 07:31
It's really daft having a performance car with racks. A F Type or a 911 carrying bikes or kayak is just stupid. If you are carrying those things you are not going to explore the speed and dynamics of the cars so why not get a big estate shed or not and have something more purposeful... unless you want to pose on the trail car park... for the sake of 500 quid an old volvocars will take all you need in a comfortable manner.... coat is negligible to have and old shed if you can afford an f type or 911.
Anyway I think it's actually embarrassing...
Anyway I think it's actually embarrassing...
Nik Gnashers said:
Evilex said:
I went down the Fiat Multipla route.
I usually leave one rear seat in, and bikes can be stood upright inside.
Safer, cleaner (for the bike), less vulnerable to theft, less impact on fuel usage.
It's also my daily driver (if I don't ride to work)
Cost £700.
It's telling that the family prefer it for long journeys, too. Lots of space and very comfortable. Pig Ugly, mind.
This ^ proves my point perfectly I usually leave one rear seat in, and bikes can be stood upright inside.
Safer, cleaner (for the bike), less vulnerable to theft, less impact on fuel usage.
It's also my daily driver (if I don't ride to work)
Cost £700.
It's telling that the family prefer it for long journeys, too. Lots of space and very comfortable. Pig Ugly, mind.
If you can't go mountain biking without heated seats and luxury interior, then come on, your not really a proper mountain biker are you.
A real mountain biker is not bothered about a 'comfortable' ride or staying clean, only a pretend mountain biker like in the video who doesn't get muddy or ride over anything more than a kerb would end a 'ride' looking that clean.
Bit like those 4x4 owners who's idea of off-roading is parking on a grass verge lol.........
My bike typically ends up like this after a ride, and who in their right mind would put that on top of a 50 grand car ?
Edited by Nik Gnashers on Saturday 21st January 07:31
If it helps your analysis, I have a big sheet of cardboard for the bike to stand on that catches any dried mud.
On my last run, the bike was SO caked in mud that you couldn't make out the links in the chain nor the sprockets on the rear hub.
I wouldn't put anything in that state on a "decent" car .
Nik Gnashers said:
It does look like a well designed bit of kit, but extremely expensive for what is essentially a couple of triple-sucker pads.
As a very keen mountain biker myself, who travels 100+ miles each way every weekend to ride, I can't help thinking .... who in their right mind, would use a 50 grand car, to go mountain biking ?
If you can afford a 50 grand motor, and a 4 grand bike, then surely you can buy a £500 shed to use just for bike transport. That way you can have the bike safely either inside the car (or cheap van), or on a tow-bar mount. Also you can drive back covered in mud without destroying said 50 grand car's posh interior ?
I personally use a Thule tow-bar mount, as any roof mounted carriers in the past have made my mpg shoot up (wind resistance) and been extremely noisy.
I usually use my weekend car when i go to ride to my favorite bike park. 80 miles or so. There is so nice drivers roads that i will always kick my ass if i take our family hauler...As a very keen mountain biker myself, who travels 100+ miles each way every weekend to ride, I can't help thinking .... who in their right mind, would use a 50 grand car, to go mountain biking ?
If you can afford a 50 grand motor, and a 4 grand bike, then surely you can buy a £500 shed to use just for bike transport. That way you can have the bike safely either inside the car (or cheap van), or on a tow-bar mount. Also you can drive back covered in mud without destroying said 50 grand car's posh interior ?
I personally use a Thule tow-bar mount, as any roof mounted carriers in the past have made my mpg shoot up (wind resistance) and been extremely noisy.
CrgT16 said:
It's really daft having a performance car with racks. A F Type or a 911 carrying bikes or kayak is just stupid. If you are carrying those things you are not going to explore the speed and dynamics of the cars so why not get a big estate shed or not and have something more purposeful... unless you want to pose on the trail car park... for the sake of 500 quid an old volvocars will take all you need in a comfortable manner.... coat is negligible to have and old shed if you can afford an f type or 911.
Anyway I think it's actually embarrassing...
And if you live somewhere with one parking space? Anyway I think it's actually embarrassing...
Not quite sure how having a nice car is embarrassing - you don't have to drive them at 10/10ths everywhere...........
I can see this being appealing for sports car owners but it puzzles me when I see a single bike on roof of a car with folding rear seats. I find it's so much nicer to drive a car and not have to worry about the bike falling off no matter how you drive. As mentioned in the article, good mountain biking is generally in hilly, remote areas with fun roads.
Added bonus that the bike doesn't get a high pressure salt water spray if it's cold and wet.
Added bonus that the bike doesn't get a high pressure salt water spray if it's cold and wet.
Evilex said:
I have a big sheet of cardboard for the bike to stand on that catches any dried mud.
I use an old double airbed, added waterproofing.hora said:
What about the North Downs? The forest towards Bristol, what's its name? FOD?
Lots of techy, flowy cheeky!
UK bike park was around Blandford which was alright but eventually closed (the seller sadly didn't accept mine or anyone elses offer for the place) and has been mostly ripped up. It's been reopened but isn't the same anymore.Lots of techy, flowy cheeky!
Edited by hora on Friday 20th January 21:53
Not been Bristol way but tbh it's not too much difference in distance between Bristol and Plymouth where I'm coming from and Gawton has 4 minute runs with an uplift.
Puddletown has 20-30 second runs tops. All in all not a great deal around my parts that I really enjoy. Bike park wales isn't too much further than Gawton from here though.
esuuv said:
CrgT16 said:
It's really daft having a performance car with racks. A F Type or a 911 carrying bikes or kayak is just stupid. If you are carrying those things you are not going to explore the speed and dynamics of the cars so why not get a big estate shed or not and have something more purposeful... unless you want to pose on the trail car park... for the sake of 500 quid an old volvocars will take all you need in a comfortable manner.... cost is negligible to have and old shed if you can afford an f type or 911.
Anyway I think it's actually embarrassing...
And if you live somewhere with one parking space? Anyway I think it's actually embarrassing...
Not quite sure how having a nice car is embarrassing - you don't have to drive them at 10/10ths everywhere...........
Evilex said:
Not sure if you're agreeing with my approach or not!
If it helps your analysis, I have a big sheet of cardboard for the bike to stand on that catches any dried mud.
On my last run, the bike was SO caked in mud that you couldn't make out the links in the chain nor the sprockets on the rear hub.
I wouldn't put anything in that state on a "decent" car .
I was most definitely agreeing with you.If it helps your analysis, I have a big sheet of cardboard for the bike to stand on that catches any dried mud.
On my last run, the bike was SO caked in mud that you couldn't make out the links in the chain nor the sprockets on the rear hub.
I wouldn't put anything in that state on a "decent" car .
Your approach of using a vehicle that is perfectly suited to the task is exactly the correct approach.
The more I think about this 'article' .... the more silly it seems. The only reason I could see why somebody would use a really expensive sports car to travel to a mountain biking trail centre or area, is basically to show off the car, because it makes no sense at all otherwise.
If you can afford a 50 grand car, the fuel, the insurance/tax, and other running costs, then spending 2 grand on a cheap but reliable shed to use as mountain bike transport is pittance. It just seems obvious that a cheap car for the job in hand is the most sensible option, or do supercar drivers take stuff to the tip in the back of their Porsche's ... take their dogs to muddy forests for walkies ... etc etc ?
Nik Gnashers said:
It's only 90 mins each way ffs.
I live in Lincoln, where there are no trail centres, or even decent bridleways within the whole county (well none with any hills suitable for mountain biking).
So, I go to North Yorkshire (Dalby Forest), Lancashire (Gisburn forest), or other places.
I can be at my 'best' quite easily, and travel there, do 2-3 hours riding, and travel back, still have enough time to clean and re-lube the bike, get a bath, all before tea-time.
I ride the red/black routes too, so I don't go easy.
Anything else you want to know ?
Yes, how many overnighters do you do? Those are the best, drive Friday. Beers, sleep ride all day then back home for Sat night.I live in Lincoln, where there are no trail centres, or even decent bridleways within the whole county (well none with any hills suitable for mountain biking).
So, I go to North Yorkshire (Dalby Forest), Lancashire (Gisburn forest), or other places.
I can be at my 'best' quite easily, and travel there, do 2-3 hours riding, and travel back, still have enough time to clean and re-lube the bike, get a bath, all before tea-time.
I ride the red/black routes too, so I don't go easy.
Anything else you want to know ?
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