Race and horse transporters banned within M25
Discussion
tank slapper said:
sjn2004 said:
How do "they" know you've entered "Greater London"?
If you go pretty much anywhere within the M25 you will see these or variations of them all over the place. They have been steadily spreading, even on relatively minor roads - there is one round the corner to me mounted on top of a set of pedestrian crossing traffic lights.
Glassman said:
flemke said:
I recently was on a street that is a border for the CC. If you are driving on this street, you are not liable for the charge. If you turn off the street in the direction of central London, however, you go into the zone.
A side turning off this street was a cul-de-sac mews, no more than 100 metres long. The mews was on the central London side of the border so - you guessed it - there was a full set of these cameras to cover the 100 metres of the cul-de-sac. Pathetic.
A side turning off this street was a cul-de-sac mews, no more than 100 metres long. The mews was on the central London side of the border so - you guessed it - there was a full set of these cameras to cover the 100 metres of the cul-de-sac. Pathetic.
I've seen one like this just before you get to Commercial Street / Spitalfields. Proper old cobbled street that is no longer than a few metres. When you look down it, at the end, there is an old, very brown, brick wall. It is a dead as fried chicken dead end. I wouldn't even call it a street. But the cameras are there...
????
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&ge...
the L-shaped bit opposite Fairchild St.
This is in the congestion zone - utterly bizarre.
MTBR said:
nelly1 said:
Just the beginning IMHO.
Cars over 1.3l next? Hope I'm wrong!
I have a friend of a friend who owns a farm within the zone in Ockendon (outside the M25), and he restores traction engines. He exhibits them at numerous shows around London.
The lorry he uses to transport the engines does not comply with the appropriate regs, so from next year he won't be able to transport them without this ludicrous fee, ergo he won't be attending any more shows, and won't even be able to transport them to a neighbouring farm to work on them without being clobbered!
Inner London is one thing, but this is bordering on the insane!!
I am a service engineer for a forklift company based in Wokingham,and most of our business is conducted within the confines of the M25.Anyway,to cut a long story short,my boss bought a real beater of a lorry so that we could cut costs and deliver forklifts to customers without paying dedicated companies to do it for us.The upshot of this is,our current lorry is P reg and as such does not comply with these new Euro rulings,so he's had to buy a newer lorry to comply,with the consequenses being that savings had to be made in other areas,thus reducing our overall operational capabilities.
Who said British industry is dead
The sooner I get the hell out of this country,the better!
Oh and earlier a litre of super unleaded(x 40) cost me 108.9 and that really gripped my shit
Who said British industry is dead
The sooner I get the hell out of this country,the better!
Oh and earlier a litre of super unleaded(x 40) cost me 108.9 and that really gripped my shit
tfm said:
We in the UK find it unbelievable that George W Bush got voted in, yet Londoners voted for Ken?
I guess we're just as stupid as they are.
I guess our get out card is that one in three Londoners weren't born in Britain, so it's a moot point as to whether 'we' voted for him! I suppose the septics could claim their 5 gazillion illegals voted for Bush, but I think they tend not to vote! I guess we're just as stupid as they are.
MentalSarcasm said:
tank slapper said:
sjn2004 said:
How do "they" know you've entered "Greater London"?
If you go pretty much anywhere within the M25 you will see these or variations of them all over the place. They have been steadily spreading, even on relatively minor roads - there is one round the corner to me mounted on top of a set of pedestrian crossing traffic lights.
Just in case someone finds an angle grinder.
tvrforever said:
Any chance they might extend this ruling to the rest of the country? I'm sick of having to follow 'yaw-yaws' and their horseboxes at 25mph in 60 zones... 
I have been thinking along the same lines myself.No old lorry's,motorhome's or horseboxes on the road,
and the problem is........?
biglepton said:
tfm said:
We in the UK find it unbelievable that George W Bush got voted in, yet Londoners voted for Ken?
I guess we're just as stupid as they are.
I guess our get out card is that one in three Londoners weren't born in Britain, so it's a moot point as to whether 'we' voted for him! I suppose the septics could claim their 5 gazillion illegals voted for Bush, but I think they tend not to vote! I guess we're just as stupid as they are.
pc.iow said:
tvrforever said:
Any chance they might extend this ruling to the rest of the country? I'm sick of having to follow 'yaw-yaws' and their horseboxes at 25mph in 60 zones...
I have been thinking along the same lines myself.No old lorry's,motorhome's or horseboxes on the road,
and the problem is........?
You choose.
The 7.5 tonner is registered as a Private Heavy Good vehicle, without need for an operators licence. I don't see hiw it could be registered as Private Light Goods, nor how that would help me in this case.
Perhaps someone would be good enough to work out if Brands Hatch lies in Ken's exclusion zone?
Polarbert said:
Isn't the fine for not having a numberplate on £60?
That would be my choice.
Sadly, no!That would be my choice.
Hobzy said:
...so Brands is safe... at the mo.
Therein lies the rub!What worries me about all this is the potential for expansion.
At the moment - it's older lorries and such like.
But they'll tighten the regs. Then it'll apply to large engined cars. And then older cars, and then anything over 1 litre. And then all cars.
:shouting: FCUK OFF!
As groomi said on a similar thread, not only would this have a huge impact on me and the cars I choose to drive (and pay through the nose for already), it's going to have a huge impact on the price of my house.
This makes me too angry for words. I live in SE London and have been doing a show over in Epsom this week. On Sunday I got the train - trains were delayed and I was late - 2.5 hours there, nearly that coming home again, for £8.20. Decided that driving would be a hell of a lot cheaper and quicker - 17 miles each way, that's 34 miles, probably 5 quid in petrol, but comfortable and warm, 75 mins to get there 45 mins on the way back.
Add 25 quid onto that and it's not worth getting out of bed.
This t
t is trying to stifle any productivity left in this country. He will not rest until we are all grey facsimiles of each other, all reduced to the same unthinking silent obeying masses Has "1984" ever been a more terrifying possibility?
At the moment - it's older lorries and such like.
But they'll tighten the regs. Then it'll apply to large engined cars. And then older cars, and then anything over 1 litre. And then all cars.
:shouting: FCUK OFF!
As groomi said on a similar thread, not only would this have a huge impact on me and the cars I choose to drive (and pay through the nose for already), it's going to have a huge impact on the price of my house.
This makes me too angry for words. I live in SE London and have been doing a show over in Epsom this week. On Sunday I got the train - trains were delayed and I was late - 2.5 hours there, nearly that coming home again, for £8.20. Decided that driving would be a hell of a lot cheaper and quicker - 17 miles each way, that's 34 miles, probably 5 quid in petrol, but comfortable and warm, 75 mins to get there 45 mins on the way back.
Add 25 quid onto that and it's not worth getting out of bed.
This t
t is trying to stifle any productivity left in this country. He will not rest until we are all grey facsimiles of each other, all reduced to the same unthinking silent obeying masses Has "1984" ever been a more terrifying possibility?NiceCupOfTea said:
What worries me about all this is the potential for expansion.
At the moment - it's older lorries and such like.
But they'll tighten the regs. Then it'll apply to large engined cars. And then older cars, and then anything over 1 litre. And then all cars.
:shouting: FCUK OFF!
As groomi said on a similar thread, not only would this have a huge impact on me and the cars I choose to drive (and pay through the nose for already), it's going to have a huge impact on the price of my house.
This makes me too angry for words. I live in SE London and have been doing a show over in Epsom this week. On Sunday I got the train - trains were delayed and I was late - 2.5 hours there, nearly that coming home again, for £8.20. Decided that driving would be a hell of a lot cheaper and quicker - 17 miles each way, that's 34 miles, probably 5 quid in petrol, but comfortable and warm, 75 mins to get there 45 mins on the way back.
Add 25 quid onto that and it's not worth getting out of bed.
This tt is trying to stifle any productivity left in this country. He will not rest until we are all grey facsimiles of each other, all reduced to the same unthinking silent obeying masses Has "1984" ever been a more terrifying possibility?
You are absolutly correct. This is the beginning of the war on the car in London. It is the typical way, take one section at a time, first it was 4x4 and gas guzzlers in Richmond, now lorries and older vans, then performance cars, two seaters until the only thing you can drive is ordinary. One which is approved for the masses leaving those in power to do as they please. At the moment - it's older lorries and such like.
But they'll tighten the regs. Then it'll apply to large engined cars. And then older cars, and then anything over 1 litre. And then all cars.
:shouting: FCUK OFF!
As groomi said on a similar thread, not only would this have a huge impact on me and the cars I choose to drive (and pay through the nose for already), it's going to have a huge impact on the price of my house.
This makes me too angry for words. I live in SE London and have been doing a show over in Epsom this week. On Sunday I got the train - trains were delayed and I was late - 2.5 hours there, nearly that coming home again, for £8.20. Decided that driving would be a hell of a lot cheaper and quicker - 17 miles each way, that's 34 miles, probably 5 quid in petrol, but comfortable and warm, 75 mins to get there 45 mins on the way back.
Add 25 quid onto that and it's not worth getting out of bed.
This t
t is trying to stifle any productivity left in this country. He will not rest until we are all grey facsimiles of each other, all reduced to the same unthinking silent obeying masses Has "1984" ever been a more terrifying possibility?Many on here applaud when it is chavs in Novas being targeted but you will be the target on day.
In the interests of operating a fair and open policy why is it only London (and soon manchester)that can operate these policies?why can`t areas outside the congestion zones charge people to come out ? or charge planes that fly over their local area?it would only take one area to apply for their equal rights and it all falls apart,plus london would have to use army trucks to bring in ken`s little extras.Tempus
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