RE: Driven: Ferrari 458 Italia
Discussion
Stig said:
Am I alone in thinking this is proper fugly?
Nope, the rear tries too hard with it's sharp edges, and the rubber mouth looks out of place amongst an otherwise smooth and un-eventful bonnet. While it's obviously still a nice looking car, it's not in the same aesthetic league as a Maserati GT, LP560-4 or AMV, which you'd like to expect considering it costs far above what the competition of the next generation of mid-range supercar will (although admittedly we don't know what Lambo's competitor to this will be).k-ink said:
... based upon looks, exclusivity, brand ethos
Obviously looks are subjective, but to my eye the McLaren is 'generic'. Though the 458 is a little fussy, a least Ferrari are pushing the design envelope. However, I must agree on brand ethos - the McLaren video released recently certainly swung my lottery-car vote Woking-wards.It's been a few months and many pictures now, and I've been umming and ahhing about it, but I can't deny it. It's a hideous car. Functional, no doubt, and the interior works quite well, but I really really dislike the look of the thing, and no matter how well it drives. I don't fancy the Mclaren much either, but it's at least cleaner looking.
I'm firmly in the camp of it not being a 'beautiful' or 'stunning' car to look at by any means, personally. It's certainly too busy at the back for me to call it any of that.I'm sure if it was a fibreglass jobbie from a shed in eastern Europe it'd get slated, even if it was a capable steer.
However Chris Harris did a great job of demonstrating it's abilities in the EVO videos, it certainly looks like it drives like a dream!
However Chris Harris did a great job of demonstrating it's abilities in the EVO videos, it certainly looks like it drives like a dream!
Edited by Arun_D on Friday 20th November 08:44
Snoggledog said:
Stig said:
Am I alone in thinking this is proper fugly?
Nope. You're not alone. To my eyes, it looks like a modified copy of the P4/5 and a badly done copy at that.I also understand that it's only available as an auto - WTF is that about, I don't care if it is 10ms faster at changing gear, surely half the pleasure of a sportscar is the control that the driver has, an automatic Ferrari leaves me cold.
Not for me... sorry.
Stig said:
Am I alone in thinking this is proper fugly?
No! I was going to post exactly the same thing!I think the back is alright the front is ugly and the interior looks a bit stupid for a ferrari, I dont like the vents or the instrument cluster.
Edited by DanBMW on Friday 20th November 09:12
I wasn't 100% sure about the looks when I first saw the press photo's either. However the more I have seen of this car the more I have come to realise that it is actually stunning. Very very pretty car IMO. Can't wait to see it in the flesh, and hopefully one day get behind the wheel of one.
JTK said:
totally different category, 911 gt3 rs to 458 italia. That explains the diffrent price category...
But I'm not sure it does. In what way is it a different category? 2 seater car that has similar performance, equally practical, equally fast and with (if we are about such things) equal 'status'.Snoggledog said:
Stig said:
Am I alone in thinking this is proper fugly?
Nope. You're not alone. To my eyes, it looks like a modified copy of the P4/5 and a badly done copy at that.aarondrs said:
JTK said:
totally different category, 911 gt3 rs to 458 italia. That explains the diffrent price category...
But I'm not sure it does. In what way is it a different category? 2 seater car that has similar performance, equally practical, equally fast and with (if we are about such things) equal 'status'., probably more so the GT3, & .
The Ferrari is much quicker, and as great as the RS is I suspect from what's been written the 458 handles even better and is in a different league!
Having owned both Porsche & Ferrari, I can vouch for, as I'm certain others would too, the ownership experience being completely different and (IMO) in the eyes of those that care about 'status' there is a quantum leap between the 2 brands.
Edited by The Milfman on Friday 20th November 11:22
aarondrs said:
JTK said:
totally different category, 911 gt3 rs to 458 italia. That explains the diffrent price category...
But I'm not sure it does. In what way is it a different category? 2 seater car that has similar performance, equally practical, equally fast and with (if we are about such things) equal 'status'.Beefmeister said:
Stig said:
Am I alone in thinking this is proper fugly?
Alone? No.Minority? Yes.
I've seen it in the metal, and it's stunning.
In my opinion, obviously...
I made up my mind back then and it's yet to change.
It was interesting to see how Ferrari had arranged the cars on their stand to keep the rear out of sight. Once I saw it I could see why.
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