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Effing DVLA.
I sold a Pajero, filled all the forms in and posted them (being the seller).
Then got a £40 fine for not informing them of change of ownership. So, I sent them a copy of letter that the chap had signed but that was not enough.
I told them that I dont have further proof that I had changed ownership. Evan more annoying is that the car I had sold *may* have been involved in something dodgy as I got a Police visit.
After the visit I phoned them up to confirm that I had indeed sold the car to a Mr Smith in Ipswich and they said thanks for informing us and perhaps the letter had been delayed to them.
So folks, remember IF you do not hear within a (reasonable) period of time its all YOUR fault.
b
ds.
I sold a Pajero, filled all the forms in and posted them (being the seller).
Then got a £40 fine for not informing them of change of ownership. So, I sent them a copy of letter that the chap had signed but that was not enough.
I told them that I dont have further proof that I had changed ownership. Evan more annoying is that the car I had sold *may* have been involved in something dodgy as I got a Police visit.
After the visit I phoned them up to confirm that I had indeed sold the car to a Mr Smith in Ipswich and they said thanks for informing us and perhaps the letter had been delayed to them.
So folks, remember IF you do not hear within a (reasonable) period of time its all YOUR fault.
b
ds.Edited by Morningside on Thursday 9th September 13:53
Morningside said:
Effing DVLA.
I sold a Pajero, filled all the forms in and posted them (being the seller).
Then got a £40 fine for not informing them of change of ownership. So, I sent them a copy of letter that the chap had signed but that was not enough.
I told them that I dont have further proof that I had changed ownership. Evan more annoying is that the car I had sold *may* have been involved in something dodgy as I got a Police visit.
After the visit I phoned them up to confirm that I had indeed sold the car to a Mr Smith in Ipswich and they said thanks for informing us and perhaps the letter had been delayed to them.
So folks, remember IF you do not hear within a (reasonable) period of time its all YOUR fault.
bds.
Do everything recorded delivery. It's the only way to retain any proof of anything with them.I sold a Pajero, filled all the forms in and posted them (being the seller).
Then got a £40 fine for not informing them of change of ownership. So, I sent them a copy of letter that the chap had signed but that was not enough.
I told them that I dont have further proof that I had changed ownership. Evan more annoying is that the car I had sold *may* have been involved in something dodgy as I got a Police visit.
After the visit I phoned them up to confirm that I had indeed sold the car to a Mr Smith in Ipswich and they said thanks for informing us and perhaps the letter had been delayed to them.
So folks, remember IF you do not hear within a (reasonable) period of time its all YOUR fault.
b
ds.Edited by Morningside on Thursday 9th September 13:53
I don't get why people use anything but recorded delivery with them really. Has any individual ever had a life of no cock ups by the DVLA? Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me... and all that.
Dave
Mr Whippy said:
Morningside said:
Effing DVLA.
I sold a Pajero, filled all the forms in and posted them (being the seller).
Then got a £40 fine for not informing them of change of ownership. So, I sent them a copy of letter that the chap had signed but that was not enough.
I told them that I dont have further proof that I had changed ownership. Evan more annoying is that the car I had sold *may* have been involved in something dodgy as I got a Police visit.
After the visit I phoned them up to confirm that I had indeed sold the car to a Mr Smith in Ipswich and they said thanks for informing us and perhaps the letter had been delayed to them.
So folks, remember IF you do not hear within a (reasonable) period of time its all YOUR fault.
bds.
Do everything recorded delivery. It's the only way to retain any proof of anything with them.I sold a Pajero, filled all the forms in and posted them (being the seller).
Then got a £40 fine for not informing them of change of ownership. So, I sent them a copy of letter that the chap had signed but that was not enough.
I told them that I dont have further proof that I had changed ownership. Evan more annoying is that the car I had sold *may* have been involved in something dodgy as I got a Police visit.
After the visit I phoned them up to confirm that I had indeed sold the car to a Mr Smith in Ipswich and they said thanks for informing us and perhaps the letter had been delayed to them.
So folks, remember IF you do not hear within a (reasonable) period of time its all YOUR fault.
b
ds.Edited by Morningside on Thursday 9th September 13:53
I don't get why people use anything but recorded delivery with them really. Has any individual ever had a life of no cock ups by the DVLA? Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me... and all that.
Dave
ds just slap me with a £40 fine. Guilty until proved... it seems. 
They are muppets as a whole it seems.
When they do it right, fine, when they go wrong, it's very very wrong
We had to pay for a new V5 after they lost the previous one we sent for a name change, and after re-sending the new one to change the name, it was sent back with the name wrong
'tards!
Dave
When they do it right, fine, when they go wrong, it's very very wrong
We had to pay for a new V5 after they lost the previous one we sent for a name change, and after re-sending the new one to change the name, it was sent back with the name wrong
'tards!
Dave
CypherP said:
Liquid Knight said:
The DVLA are not a court, they are not above the Law and a little peaceful protest will probably do little but I for one am not willing to allow the DVLA to get away with it again.
So your idea of foiling any wrong doings by the DVLA in the future is for you and a couple of hundred other disgruntled customers to send them a greeting card in an effort to ruin what is likely one day's worth of administration? I'm sure creating a backlog for DVLA staff, as well as thousands of other members of the public will really hit them where it hurts. If I was in your shoes, I'd be pissed off, but I certainly wouldn't try and implement a childish timewasting prank, purely in an effort to feed your growing disapproval of the DVLA.
By no means have I had purely positive experiences with them, but I like to think that I have the maturity to move past it and go about my life having a little more respect for the way that things happen in this working world than you seem to.
Clog up the DVLA? Someone hasn't read the whole thread. Here's the alternative address.
Mr. Phillip Hammond MP
Secretary of State for Transport
The Palace of Westminster
London
SW1P 3PA
Remember if you do want to take part in this little event then do not break the law in any way. If you send a turd to an MP I think you can be held for 28 days without questioning for it. Just a polite greeting from a disgruntled customer.
Use mine or design you own.
Liquid Knight said:
CypherP said:
Liquid Knight said:
The DVLA are not a court, they are not above the Law and a little peaceful protest will probably do little but I for one am not willing to allow the DVLA to get away with it again.
So your idea of foiling any wrong doings by the DVLA in the future is for you and a couple of hundred other disgruntled customers to send them a greeting card in an effort to ruin what is likely one day's worth of administration? I'm sure creating a backlog for DVLA staff, as well as thousands of other members of the public will really hit them where it hurts. If I was in your shoes, I'd be pissed off, but I certainly wouldn't try and implement a childish timewasting prank, purely in an effort to feed your growing disapproval of the DVLA.
By no means have I had purely positive experiences with them, but I like to think that I have the maturity to move past it and go about my life having a little more respect for the way that things happen in this working world than you seem to.
Clog up the DVLA? Someone hasn't read the whole thread. Here's the alternative address.
Mr. Phillip Hammond MP
Secretary of State for Transport
The Palace of Westminster
London
SW1P 3PA
Remember if you do want to take part in this little event then do not break the law in any way. If you send a turd to an MP I think you can be held for 28 days without questioning for it. Just a polite greeting from a disgruntled customer.
Use mine or design you own.
In all honesty, what you and the other frankly daft people do with your extra cash, no matter how small the cost might be, isn't up to me, so if you feel that sending hundreds of cards to Westminster will make you feel better, then be my guest.
I do find it quite ironic that the main cause for this brilliant idea of yours is the general public being conned out of their own cash, yet you and apparently many others are happy to part with a few extra quid to send unnecessary mail to cause temporary frustration to both the DVLA/Government and the public for your own enjoyment. But then people get strange kicks out of allsorts these days.
If you really feel that strongly about what the DVLA and the like are doing, then why not just start a petition, or at least talk about it like most strongly opinionated people tend to do. There are definitely some things that really get my goat, but if it really got me to the point that you seem to be, then i'd do something about it. Not skirt around the problem by spending more money just to upset the balance a little.
Balmoral Green said:
Liquid Knight said:
pretty much everyone else has had an issue with the DVLA in the past at some stage.
Nope.That 200,000 signed petition given to Tony Blair to get our armed services out of Iraq did the trick didn't it? I suppose in a way it is a petition only instead of having a single document with names on it there would be thousands of individual pages with a signature each. As for talking about it, I have been sending corespondance back and forth to the DVLA about the latest issue and they will not budge dispite the fact I have proven I'm right. You are guilty until proven innocent and then guilty anyway according to the DVLA. That's why I've invited them to discuss it in an open court where the law isn't made up on the spot and there are people there who actually have the authority to enforce it.
HMRC? I was saving them until Valentines day. We could send them Christmas cards on February 14th and blame a computer error and charge them up to £1,500 each for them (unless I'm due a rebate in that case their brilliant).
HMRC? I was saving them until Valentines day. We could send them Christmas cards on February 14th and blame a computer error and charge them up to £1,500 each for them (unless I'm due a rebate in that case their brilliant).
Edited by Liquid Knight on Thursday 9th September 17:39
I was taken to court, fined, and convicted, but never told about any of this, because of a DVLA cock up. For some reason my correctly done SORN never made it into the system, and the DVLA decided to send the correspondence to an old address. Despite the fact that the bike was registered to the new address, the whole thing went on without so much as a hint coming my way that anything was wrong.
What was a bit weird was that they then never put any effort into collecting the money either, again, despite sending me V5s, tax reminders, and tax discs to the new address.
I only found out about my undischarged county court judgement when I moved jobs, and my new employer did a ful background check on me.
I do have to wonder what they bother taking people to court for if they then don't actually put in any effort to get the money.
What was a bit weird was that they then never put any effort into collecting the money either, again, despite sending me V5s, tax reminders, and tax discs to the new address.
I only found out about my undischarged county court judgement when I moved jobs, and my new employer did a ful background check on me.
I do have to wonder what they bother taking people to court for if they then don't actually put in any effort to get the money.
NorthernBoy said:
I was taken to court, fined, and convicted, but never told about any of this, because of a DVLA cock up. For some reason my correctly done SORN never made it into the system, and the DVLA decided to send the correspondence to an old address. Despite the fact that the bike was registered to the new address, the whole thing went on without so much as a hint coming my way that anything was wrong.
What was a bit weird was that they then never put any effort into collecting the money either, again, despite sending me V5s, tax reminders, and tax discs to the new address.
I only found out about my undischarged county court judgement when I moved jobs, and my new employer did a ful background check on me.
I do have to wonder what they bother taking people to court for if they then don't actually put in any effort to get the money.
Not like a CCJ is going to have any effect on the rest of your life is it? What is it these days ten points off your credit rating?What was a bit weird was that they then never put any effort into collecting the money either, again, despite sending me V5s, tax reminders, and tax discs to the new address.
I only found out about my undischarged county court judgement when I moved jobs, and my new employer did a ful background check on me.
I do have to wonder what they bother taking people to court for if they then don't actually put in any effort to get the money.
I was clearly informed that if it was not discharged very swiftly I would lose my job, and my license to work in banking. Despite what may be the public perception, we have to be utterly clean financially to be licensed in the UK (although of course mistakes are made), and there's every chance that other employers would have done the checks before I started, and just quietly withdrawn the job offer.
Having just paid out £500 for tax this week (one car, one bike), I'm not feeling particularly charitable towards them.
Actually, on that point, if I'm paying for using the roads, why do I have to pay for each vehicle? Surely when I buy a scooter to use on some trips instead of the big Audi I should end up paying less tax for the year, not more.
Having just paid out £500 for tax this week (one car, one bike), I'm not feeling particularly charitable towards them.
Actually, on that point, if I'm paying for using the roads, why do I have to pay for each vehicle? Surely when I buy a scooter to use on some trips instead of the big Audi I should end up paying less tax for the year, not more.
Liquid Knight said:
Card design 1
Was thinking of a hamster on a wheel sat next to a computer with "DVLA Database" writen on it and "NO!" in the screen but I thought it would be better to keep it simple so everyone can print it without any trouble.
Feel free to design your own.
I think that's brilliant.Was thinking of a hamster on a wheel sat next to a computer with "DVLA Database" writen on it and "NO!" in the screen but I thought it would be better to keep it simple so everyone can print it without any trouble.
Feel free to design your own.
FWIW, I've had to chase the DVLA up several in the last year regarding vehicles that have been sold or scrapped. I don't understand why it's the responsibility of the previous owner of a car to ensure that the DVLA have done their f
king job- it's absurd and completely unacceptable for any institution. You don't have to phone the bank every 5 minutes to check that they haven't eaten all of your savings, or call your electricity company to make sure that they haven't forgotten you exist and disconnected you.It's even more unacceptable that you can be fined, or have your car towed/crushed/sold because of their failings. Whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty?"
-EDIT-
Edited to add, even doing things recorded delivery doesn't necessarily work. When I chased them for confirmation that my car had changed hands (as it was approaching the expiry date for the tax and I didn't want a fine) I sent in documentation including a photocopy of the V5C and a copy of the receipt for postage. The response I got was basically "well that receipt could be for anything sent by recorded delivery" even though they could have searched the f
king tracking number and SEEN that it was sent to them.Edited by ManOpener on Friday 10th September 14:19
Mr Whippy said:
Morningside said:
Effing DVLA.
I sold a Pajero, filled all the forms in and posted them (being the seller).
Then got a £40 fine for not informing them of change of ownership. So, I sent them a copy of letter that the chap had signed but that was not enough.
I told them that I dont have further proof that I had changed ownership. Evan more annoying is that the car I had sold *may* have been involved in something dodgy as I got a Police visit.
After the visit I phoned them up to confirm that I had indeed sold the car to a Mr Smith in Ipswich and they said thanks for informing us and perhaps the letter had been delayed to them.
So folks, remember IF you do not hear within a (reasonable) period of time its all YOUR fault.
bds.
Do everything recorded delivery. It's the only way to retain any proof of anything with them.I sold a Pajero, filled all the forms in and posted them (being the seller).
Then got a £40 fine for not informing them of change of ownership. So, I sent them a copy of letter that the chap had signed but that was not enough.
I told them that I dont have further proof that I had changed ownership. Evan more annoying is that the car I had sold *may* have been involved in something dodgy as I got a Police visit.
After the visit I phoned them up to confirm that I had indeed sold the car to a Mr Smith in Ipswich and they said thanks for informing us and perhaps the letter had been delayed to them.
So folks, remember IF you do not hear within a (reasonable) period of time its all YOUR fault.
b
ds.Edited by Morningside on Thursday 9th September 13:53
I don't get why people use anything but recorded delivery with them really. Has any individual ever had a life of no cock ups by the DVLA? Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me... and all that.
Dave
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