Push Bike Road Tax
Discussion
Mr Gear said:
will_ said:
B'stard Child said:
croyde said:
Sorry but since when does Road Tax go back into the transport infrastructure. You'll just be giving the Gubberment more cash for themselves.
Sorry but why do people insist on calling it Road Tax FFSIs that right? I think I got the story right.
Has "he" felt the gentle tap of Garlic's ban-hammer per chance?
Did you even put a second's thought in before posting this????
Not meaning to be rude but what an incredibly stupid idea.
I have 5 bikes, only one of them ever sees the road unless the road links trails - how do I prove this and only tax one?
If you are thinking cycling is tax free think again. New bikes are taxed, all our kit is taxed, running gear is taxed.
As previously said most of us have car(s) as well.
Can we stop this cyclist bashing nonsense now, we're all here for our love of cars.....
Not meaning to be rude but what an incredibly stupid idea.
I have 5 bikes, only one of them ever sees the road unless the road links trails - how do I prove this and only tax one?
If you are thinking cycling is tax free think again. New bikes are taxed, all our kit is taxed, running gear is taxed.
As previously said most of us have car(s) as well.
Can we stop this cyclist bashing nonsense now, we're all here for our love of cars.....
BDR529 said:
I think there should be some sort of system in order for cyclists to pay for insurance.
Given it's possible for them to be the cause of/involved with an incident that may result in damage or injury.
No idea how such a scheme would work though
Cyclists are already liable for any damage or injury they cause, the only difference is that they are not forced to insure themselves against these potential costs.Given it's possible for them to be the cause of/involved with an incident that may result in damage or injury.
No idea how such a scheme would work though
Mr Will said:
BDR529 said:
I think there should be some sort of system in order for cyclists to pay for insurance.
Given it's possible for them to be the cause of/involved with an incident that may result in damage or injury.
No idea how such a scheme would work though
Cyclists are already liable for any damage or injury they cause, the only difference is that they are not forced to insure themselves against these potential costs.Given it's possible for them to be the cause of/involved with an incident that may result in damage or injury.
No idea how such a scheme would work though
BDR529 said:
I think there should be some sort of system in order for cyclists to pay for insurance.
Given it's possible for them to be the cause of/involved with an incident that may result in damage or injury.
No idea how such a scheme would work though
Yep, but it would of course have to be enforced for all road users as anyone can cause an accident/damage/injury.Given it's possible for them to be the cause of/involved with an incident that may result in damage or injury.
No idea how such a scheme would work though
So that's horses.
Oh, and children.
And pedestrians.
And skateboards.
And prams.
So pretty much everyone then. Do you have insurance in case you cause an accident crossing the road?
B'stard Child said:
croyde said:
Sorry but since when does Road Tax go back into the transport infrastructure. You'll just be giving the Gubberment more cash for themselves.
Sorry but why do people insist on calling it Road Tax FFSwill_ said:
BDR529 said:
I think there should be some sort of system in order for cyclists to pay for insurance.
Given it's possible for them to be the cause of/involved with an incident that may result in damage or injury.
No idea how such a scheme would work though
Yep, but it would of course have to be enforced for all road users as anyone can cause an accident/damage/injury.Given it's possible for them to be the cause of/involved with an incident that may result in damage or injury.
No idea how such a scheme would work though
So that's horses.
Oh, and children.
And pedestrians.
And skateboards.
And prams.
So pretty much everyone then. Do you have insurance in case you cause an accident crossing the road?
C
CraigyMc said:
will_ said:
BDR529 said:
I think there should be some sort of system in order for cyclists to pay for insurance.
Given it's possible for them to be the cause of/involved with an incident that may result in damage or injury.
No idea how such a scheme would work though
Yep, but it would of course have to be enforced for all road users as anyone can cause an accident/damage/injury.Given it's possible for them to be the cause of/involved with an incident that may result in damage or injury.
No idea how such a scheme would work though
So that's horses.
Oh, and children.
And pedestrians.
And skateboards.
And prams.
So pretty much everyone then. Do you have insurance in case you cause an accident crossing the road?
C
will_ said:
B'stard Child said:
croyde said:
Sorry but since when does Road Tax go back into the transport infrastructure. You'll just be giving the Gubberment more cash for themselves.
Sorry but why do people insist on calling it Road Tax FFSAccording to the wiki page on VED, the term road tax came about because from about 1920 onward, the tax was ringfenced for road construction. That rengfence was abolished in 1937 but the name sticks because it says what the tax is related to.
C
BlueEyedBoy said:
Cycle lanes just make cycling more dangerous anyway.
I agree, they are a nasty after-thought cutting across junctions, up and down off and off pavements, lothsome things. If parents taught their kids how to cycle correctly i.e not on the pavement as I regularly see happening then they would grow up to be fine on the road.Nice idea, but do you also tax electric cars, horses, wheelchairs, pedestrians, skateboards or pogosticks? The case for this is even less now that road tax is dependant on emissions. Cycling is very low emissions, and thus having free road tax is well within the government's current plans.
CraigyMc said:
will_ said:
B'stard Child said:
croyde said:
Sorry but since when does Road Tax go back into the transport infrastructure. You'll just be giving the Gubberment more cash for themselves.
Sorry but why do people insist on calling it Road Tax FFSAccording to the wiki page on VED, the term road tax came about because from about 1920 onward, the tax was ringfenced for road construction. That rengfence was abolished in 1937 but the name sticks because it says what the tax is related to.
C
I just think it's astounding that people pay hundreds of pounds per year yet have no idea what they are actually paying for, or even what it's called.
Garlick said:
Here we go.......
My motorbike costs £15 to tax for 12 months. A cycle would need to be a lot cheaper than that if it was to be fair. Best to avoid it really.
Simple government solution : Increase motorbike tax to £200 and car tax to £1000, and then introduce bicycle tax at £100 as an incentive.... oh and a £50 pedestrian tax while we're at it and a £25 pram surcharge. To walk in London requires a congestion charge of £5 per pedestrian My motorbike costs £15 to tax for 12 months. A cycle would need to be a lot cheaper than that if it was to be fair. Best to avoid it really.
But in all seriousness, does the OP really believe that the money paid would actually go to its intended purpose? It would simply be swallowed up into the great government blackhole where every other tax ends up.
In an ideal world, it might work, however we're in a world of inept and inefficient government bureaucracy which would doom it to failure with annual price increases and little or no service to show for it.
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