Crossing the road without looking
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Vic Cooper said:
http://indavideo.hu/video/Cserbenhagyasos_gazolas_...
1st of January. At the 9th sec. Who did it wrong? Pretty busy junction at the capital. The woman was in hoodie and crossed the road from behind the two waiting cars. I guess the truck's driver had no chance to avoid. Or did he do the mistake by using relatively high speed at a junction? I guess, both.
That looks like drunk driving by the van driver to me.1st of January. At the 9th sec. Who did it wrong? Pretty busy junction at the capital. The woman was in hoodie and crossed the road from behind the two waiting cars. I guess the truck's driver had no chance to avoid. Or did he do the mistake by using relatively high speed at a junction? I guess, both.
Edited by Vic Cooper on Thursday 6th January 00:29
heebeegeetee said:
Vic Cooper said:
http://indavideo.hu/video/Cserbenhagyasos_gazolas_...
1st of January. At the 9th sec. Who did it wrong? Pretty busy junction at the capital. The woman was in hoodie and crossed the road from behind the two waiting cars. I guess the truck's driver had no chance to avoid. Or did he do the mistake by using relatively high speed at a junction? I guess, both.
That looks like drunk driving by the van driver to me.1st of January. At the 9th sec. Who did it wrong? Pretty busy junction at the capital. The woman was in hoodie and crossed the road from behind the two waiting cars. I guess the truck's driver had no chance to avoid. Or did he do the mistake by using relatively high speed at a junction? I guess, both.
Edited by Vic Cooper on Thursday 6th January 00:29
I wouldn't worry. Women are robust. Those sweedish twins on the M6 proved that. both his by a 40 tonne lorry at 45 - 50 and they still had the ability to smash the police in the face and run to the opposite carrageway and get hit yet again at about 50. Still survived and one went on to murder a British business man.
read5458 said:
heebeegeetee said:
Vic Cooper said:
http://indavideo.hu/video/Cserbenhagyasos_gazolas_...
1st of January. At the 9th sec. Who did it wrong? Pretty busy junction at the capital. The woman was in hoodie and crossed the road from behind the two waiting cars. I guess the truck's driver had no chance to avoid. Or did he do the mistake by using relatively high speed at a junction? I guess, both.
That looks like drunk driving by the van driver to me.1st of January. At the 9th sec. Who did it wrong? Pretty busy junction at the capital. The woman was in hoodie and crossed the road from behind the two waiting cars. I guess the truck's driver had no chance to avoid. Or did he do the mistake by using relatively high speed at a junction? I guess, both.
Edited by Vic Cooper on Thursday 6th January 00:29
I wouldn't worry. Women are robust. Those sweedish twins on the M6 proved that. both his by a 40 tonne lorry at 45 - 50 and they still had the ability to smash the police in the face and run to the opposite carrageway and get hit yet again at about 50. Still survived and one went on to murder a British business man.
This seems to be a combination of youngsters belief they are immortal combined with some people who are too busy to look topped off with road safety being down to a number rather than a combination of responsibility between everyone using the road. Labour did seem to shift things from the green cross code looking before you walked to keeping the motorist's speed down to below the posted limit combined with the hit me at 40 hit me at 30 ad and you have kids who step out because they are in the right.
read5458 said:
heebeegeetee said:
Vic Cooper said:
http://indavideo.hu/video/Cserbenhagyasos_gazolas_...
1st of January. At the 9th sec. Who did it wrong? Pretty busy junction at the capital. The woman was in hoodie and crossed the road from behind the two waiting cars. I guess the truck's driver had no chance to avoid. Or did he do the mistake by using relatively high speed at a junction? I guess, both.
That looks like drunk driving by the van driver to me.1st of January. At the 9th sec. Who did it wrong? Pretty busy junction at the capital. The woman was in hoodie and crossed the road from behind the two waiting cars. I guess the truck's driver had no chance to avoid. Or did he do the mistake by using relatively high speed at a junction? I guess, both.
Edited by Vic Cooper on Thursday 6th January 00:29
Teenage kids are a nightmare. Try passing any secondary school at chucking-out time. The ones on bikes will be all over the road - left, right, centre. Everywhere! It's completely bizarre to watch. They have absolutely no road discipline whatsoever until they get well away from the school and their mates. And the ones on foot spread out like ants all over the place, happily walking on the road if there's no room for them to walk alongside their friends on the pavement.
Oh, and not forgetting the laughs they get when they try to jostle whoever is on the outside under the wheels of any passing vehicle. Ho ho. I bet they'd be laughing if their mate stumbled and got his head crushed by a passing van, too.
And that's even before I get onto the ones who cross without looking, or who saunter arrogantly down the middle of the road because they know the law says you can't just run them over.
And of course, there are also the ones who'll be minding their own business at the side of the road as you pass, but when you pass, if your car is loud for any reason (nice engine, blown exhaust, high revs - anything!), they'll jump out into the road and scream "slow down!" at you.
It's not just the ignorance of how to behave on roads that bothers me with teenagers, it's also the complete and utter arrogance. The "I must be right at all times" attitude. What the hell are these kids going to be like when they get behind the wheel of a car?
Oh, and not forgetting the laughs they get when they try to jostle whoever is on the outside under the wheels of any passing vehicle. Ho ho. I bet they'd be laughing if their mate stumbled and got his head crushed by a passing van, too.
And that's even before I get onto the ones who cross without looking, or who saunter arrogantly down the middle of the road because they know the law says you can't just run them over.
And of course, there are also the ones who'll be minding their own business at the side of the road as you pass, but when you pass, if your car is loud for any reason (nice engine, blown exhaust, high revs - anything!), they'll jump out into the road and scream "slow down!" at you.
It's not just the ignorance of how to behave on roads that bothers me with teenagers, it's also the complete and utter arrogance. The "I must be right at all times" attitude. What the hell are these kids going to be like when they get behind the wheel of a car?
The b
d thing about this is that even when the driver is clearly not at fault (as the idiot pedestrian walks in to the road), someone will do something with statistics and "prove" that the driver was at fault due to speed or something and implement traffic "calming" based on the fact that there was an accident involving a car - never mind that it wasn't the driver's fault....
d thing about this is that even when the driver is clearly not at fault (as the idiot pedestrian walks in to the road), someone will do something with statistics and "prove" that the driver was at fault due to speed or something and implement traffic "calming" based on the fact that there was an accident involving a car - never mind that it wasn't the driver's fault....james_tigerwoods said:
The bd thing about this is that even when the driver is clearly not at fault (as the idiot pedestrian walks in to the road), someone will do something with statistics and "prove" that the driver was at fault due to speed or something and implement traffic "calming" based on the fact that there was an accident involving a car - never mind that it wasn't the driver's fault....
I've recently left my voluntary ranger-ship at Sustrans precisely because they are supporting this ridiculous idea of "Strict liability"- IE car drivers being automatically at fault in accidents with cyclists or pedestrians unless it can be specifically proven otherwise... Which is a complete crock when you see the general behaviour of many cyclists!d thing about this is that even when the driver is clearly not at fault (as the idiot pedestrian walks in to the road), someone will do something with statistics and "prove" that the driver was at fault due to speed or something and implement traffic "calming" based on the fact that there was an accident involving a car - never mind that it wasn't the driver's fault....SGirl said:
who saunter arrogantly down the middle of the road because they know the law says you can't just run them over.
Saw one of those a couple of years back on my way to work. I'm on my bike, and there are two cars crawling along behind the tit. I nipped round the cars and sped up, he didn't hear me coming on my bike and I slapped him as hard as I could round the head.dmitsi said:
SGirl said:
who saunter arrogantly down the middle of the road because they know the law says you can't just run them over.
Saw one of those a couple of years back on my way to work. I'm on my bike, and there are two cars crawling along behind the tit. I nipped round the cars and sped up, he didn't hear me coming on my bike and I slapped him as hard as I could round the head.
Excellent behaviour. I had similar with two tramps who fancied an altercation in the middle of the street, when I was trying to get someone to the train station fairly quickly. Passed the two cars politely but inexplicably waiting, application of horn and 2 tons of Barge made them move fairly smartly.dmitsi said:
SGirl said:
who saunter arrogantly down the middle of the road because they know the law says you can't just run them over.
Saw one of those a couple of years back on my way to work. I'm on my bike, and there are two cars crawling along behind the tit. I nipped round the cars and sped up, he didn't hear me coming on my bike and I slapped him as hard as I could round the head.SGirl said:
It's not just the ignorance of how to behave on roads that bothers me with teenagers, it's also the complete and utter arrogance. The "I must be right at all times" attitude. What the hell are these kids going to be like when they get behind the wheel of a car?
Just like most drivers on the road already I guess.Two traits that annoy me:
1. Slow moving traffic across a junction - just becuase the car has stopped doesn't mean the green man has come on and you can cross, and don't go getting all uptight when the car tries to move off - you shouldn't be crossing.
2. Crossings with railings that run a fair distance either side of the crossing - why do people think "ah, the green man is on so I can cross but it doesn't matter I'm not on the crossing as I'm within 25feet of it so that car will have to stop way before the stop line to let me across"
1. Slow moving traffic across a junction - just becuase the car has stopped doesn't mean the green man has come on and you can cross, and don't go getting all uptight when the car tries to move off - you shouldn't be crossing.
2. Crossings with railings that run a fair distance either side of the crossing - why do people think "ah, the green man is on so I can cross but it doesn't matter I'm not on the crossing as I'm within 25feet of it so that car will have to stop way before the stop line to let me across"
runboy said:
Two traits that annoy me:
1. Slow moving traffic across a junction - just becuase the car has stopped doesn't mean the green man has come on and you can cross, and don't go getting all uptight when the car tries to move off - you shouldn't be crossing.
2. Crossings with railings that run a fair distance either side of the crossing - why do people think "ah, the green man is on so I can cross but it doesn't matter I'm not on the crossing as I'm within 25feet of it so that car will have to stop way before the stop line to let me across"
And while we're on the subject of crossings... What's all this business with "spread-out" speed bumps (you know, the ones that are wide, and flat on top) that look like crossings but aren't marked out as such? They're not crossings, are they? Why do people just walk out in front of cars on them, then, as if they were zebra crossings with some kind of magic force field around them to prevent them being flattened under the wheels of a car? I mean, if someone walks out onto a zebra crossing without looking, you can pretty much anticipate it because you can see them approaching. But with these speed bumpy things, they just leap out and surprise you.1. Slow moving traffic across a junction - just becuase the car has stopped doesn't mean the green man has come on and you can cross, and don't go getting all uptight when the car tries to move off - you shouldn't be crossing.
2. Crossings with railings that run a fair distance either side of the crossing - why do people think "ah, the green man is on so I can cross but it doesn't matter I'm not on the crossing as I'm within 25feet of it so that car will have to stop way before the stop line to let me across"
Edited by SGirl on Thursday 6th January 12:50
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