RE: Cars, Stars and... Behind Bars
Discussion
NotNormal said:
Typical PH these days , people jumping up and down on their high horse just because they don't agree with something.
For me its certainly interesting to read and looking forward to how this story pans out in subsiquent episodes. I may not agree with the ethics of obtaining the money but it certainly doesn't mean that the story should be ignored and hidden under the carpet. Good on the chap for opening up and letting people in on a part of his life i'm sure he regrets happened (and i'm sure most of the obvious responces on this thread are re-iterating what the chap probably is all to aware of already). Its interesting to understand the mentality of people as they go down that path and also i'm sure this will end in a way that will re-iterate the fact that crime doesn't pay in the long run...
Not really in the spirit of ashamed reflective remorse though is it, posting to a massive website on your experiences of crime.For me its certainly interesting to read and looking forward to how this story pans out in subsiquent episodes. I may not agree with the ethics of obtaining the money but it certainly doesn't mean that the story should be ignored and hidden under the carpet. Good on the chap for opening up and letting people in on a part of his life i'm sure he regrets happened (and i'm sure most of the obvious responces on this thread are re-iterating what the chap probably is all to aware of already). Its interesting to understand the mentality of people as they go down that path and also i'm sure this will end in a way that will re-iterate the fact that crime doesn't pay in the long run...
Edited by NotNormal on Monday 4th April 09:50
I would suggest however that this is in some way how notorious celebrities start. Max Clifford and his ilke learnt long ago that you can make money out of fame or notoriety, but probably more out of noteriety.
He is likely to have been paid for this article, I also suggest if it generates enough interest on this site he might get some coverage on other media forums, and then could make some more important money out of his story.
So if you think you are helping this chap with a process of redemption by reading his life of crime 'four parter' then by all means go ahead, but at least have the good sense to realise there may be other motives.
Some Gump said:
PH editors,
The site is better off without some criminal bragging about his crimes. This isn't the daily mail, your readers do not aspire to be the next Nick Leeson, and you're just giving the bloke another chance to be the centre of attention, despite not having worked for it.
Why not do an alternative, where you get PHers who have serious metal to tell us all about their hard work that led to the cars? Would be far more interesting.
I agree partially, but I'm interested on both sides. I know from myself that I would never take joy in something I get without working honest & hard for it, but I find this story interesting as well.The site is better off without some criminal bragging about his crimes. This isn't the daily mail, your readers do not aspire to be the next Nick Leeson, and you're just giving the bloke another chance to be the centre of attention, despite not having worked for it.
Why not do an alternative, where you get PHers who have serious metal to tell us all about their hard work that led to the cars? Would be far more interesting.
Though, as you said, there are tens if not hundreds of people on ph with some serious garages stuffed full of amazing cars, wouldn't mind hearing from them how their life/ownership experiences/buying experiences went.
Here you go guys, make your own mind up about him, I hate to think how much it cost to run the Mclaren team... He chimes in at 1.28:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=391V6NBnd0U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=391V6NBnd0U
Some Gump said:
Why not do an alternative, where you get PHers who have serious metal to tell us all about their hard work that led to the cars? Would be far more interesting.
Spot on. Why choose a thief? There's a few genuine guys on here that'll show up this guys dream garage and they've done it the honest way. I'd be interested in this...julian64 said:
Not really in the spirit of ashamed reflective remorse though is it, posting to a massive website on your experiences of crime.
I would suggest however that this is in some way how notorious celebrities start. Max Clifford and his ilke learnt long ago that you can make money out of fame or notoriety, but probably more out of noteriety.
He is likely to have been paid for this article, I also suggest if it generates enough interest on this site he might get some coverage on other media forums, and then could make some more important money out of his story.
So if you think you are helping this chap with a process of redemption by reading his life of crime 'four parter' then by all means go ahead, but at least have the good sense to realise there may be other motives.
+1I would suggest however that this is in some way how notorious celebrities start. Max Clifford and his ilke learnt long ago that you can make money out of fame or notoriety, but probably more out of noteriety.
He is likely to have been paid for this article, I also suggest if it generates enough interest on this site he might get some coverage on other media forums, and then could make some more important money out of his story.
So if you think you are helping this chap with a process of redemption by reading his life of crime 'four parter' then by all means go ahead, but at least have the good sense to realise there may be other motives.
Like some others I'll wait to see how this tale pans out before making a final judgement, but my feeling right now is that PH is being used as a platform for a thieving b
d to get exposure and make money out of his crimes with no intention of the latter being used to try and compensate his victims. I hope he's not getting paid and his story is suitably contrite but I shan't be holding my breath.
d to get exposure and make money out of his crimes with no intention of the latter being used to try and compensate his victims. I hope he's not getting paid and his story is suitably contrite but I shan't be holding my breath.julian64 said:
Not really in the spirit of ashamed reflective remorse though is it, posting to a massive website on your experiences of crime.
Precisely. The article doesn't read like a penitent criminal at all.Fortunately though, he doesn't appear, from the article to have much charisma either, which may limit his opportunities to cash in.
Poor decision by the PH editorial team.
Bonefish Blues said:
"Munroe craved publicity..."julian64 said:
Not really in the spirit of ashamed reflective remorse though is it, posting to a massive website on your experiences of crime.
I would suggest however that this is in some way how notorious celebrities start. Max Clifford and his ilke learnt long ago that you can make money out of fame or notoriety, but probably more out of noteriety.
He is likely to have been paid for this article, I also suggest if it generates enough interest on this site he might get some coverage on other media forums, and then could make some more important money out of his story.
So if you think you are helping this chap with a process of redemption by reading his life of crime 'four parter' then by all means go ahead, but at least have the good sense to realise there may be other motives.
If he's being paid for these articles then I agree whole heartedly that it is indeed a poor show indeed from all concerned. I would suggest however that this is in some way how notorious celebrities start. Max Clifford and his ilke learnt long ago that you can make money out of fame or notoriety, but probably more out of noteriety.
He is likely to have been paid for this article, I also suggest if it generates enough interest on this site he might get some coverage on other media forums, and then could make some more important money out of his story.
So if you think you are helping this chap with a process of redemption by reading his life of crime 'four parter' then by all means go ahead, but at least have the good sense to realise there may be other motives.
I assumed this was the first instance of the call out the other week on pistonheads for readers stories.
roadsweeper said:
"Munroe craved publicity..."
Exactly writing a 4 part story for huge dedicated following of car nuts is proving what a changed individual he is. No more wanting to be the centre of attention for this guy at all :-). Also it says that it was shortly after he joined that the stealing started yet in his account he makes it sound like he was grinding away for years at the company before he finally cracked. The guy is still pedalling his bullsh*t and unfortunately being promoted.I would be interested to hear from PH if they are paying him for this exclusive????????????????
Telegraph article said:
"He bought three Aston Martins, a Ferrari 348 TV[sic], a Benetton F1 racing car, a Ferrari 550, two McLaren F1's, a Jaguar XJR, a Mercedes E55 a Mercedes CLK and a Mercedes E320. He also bought a Mercedes C180 for his team racing driver, Chris Goodwin. Two Ducati motorbikes were bought for the men in the pits...
Two F1's PLUS all those other cars with less than £3m?James Munroe said:
I wanted revenge on those whom I felt had done me wrong.
Sorry, who were these people and how had they wronged you? You're just another criminal trying to justify actions that, by your own admission, ruined the lives of many.
This is a bad story PH, this guy shouldn't be given a front page feature.
Bad call PH. You've gone down significantly in my estimation for this. If someone posted this as a thread of their own ("..I stole £2.8m and bought supercars with it...") it would have been history.
Please don't insult us by giving this criminal a platform any more.
PH-o-meter rating: 0.
Please don't insult us by giving this criminal a platform any more.
PH-o-meter rating: 0.
How many more of these fraudsters are there out there? There must be loads driving around in high end cars from the proceeds of crime.
There is at least one PHer who is known to have had his collar felt, and when you read some posts in the Ferrari and Porsche forums, you really have to wonder how some people have aquired the cash for these cars.
There is at least one PHer who is known to have had his collar felt, and when you read some posts in the Ferrari and Porsche forums, you really have to wonder how some people have aquired the cash for these cars.
Alfa numeric said:
A quick google revealed this:
Why is PH giving the oxygen of publicity to this person?Accountancy Age said:
The US company discovered the fraud only after Munroe claimed he needed time off to visit his son in Great Ormond Street hospital in London. His colleagues contacted the hospital to send flowers to his son and was told it had no records of the boy's admission.
PH should be ashamed of itself.
The biggest faux pas since John Dokic's obituary.
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