The King of PH.
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for a short period and not to fast driving but lots of fun the TVR griff is a good third or second place
For all round all year round and sporty feeling the the Z3 M coupe comes first(with 18 or 19icnh) its realy that good and involving, but also a great GT car when you don't have a big familie(only a two seater)
The latest car I have has to little info yet
but it looks realy realy good...maybe its a bit to much of a animal, only driven 2 hours with a temperarely plate so can't say to much yet...monday I have the plates and can drive more
Guess this animal can combine the fun factor of the Griff with my Hartge 5.0 V8 and the drive and looks of the rare M coupe...so this could be a topper! but..as I said have to see if its not a to much torque car for the whole year?
The Z3 coupe 3.2 and this 5.0 V8 coupe are the number one! and I testdriven also a lot other cars then the cars I already owned so for me those cars(Z3 coupe's 3.2 and 5.0) are top rated
try a good one for a day specialy the once with 18 or 19inch wheels and lowered suspension...they are superb specialy for the price, nothing can beat that!
GTRene
For all round all year round and sporty feeling the the Z3 M coupe comes first(with 18 or 19icnh) its realy that good and involving, but also a great GT car when you don't have a big familie(only a two seater)
The latest car I have has to little info yet
but it looks realy realy good...maybe its a bit to much of a animal, only driven 2 hours with a temperarely plate so can't say to much yet...monday I have the plates and can drive more
Guess this animal can combine the fun factor of the Griff with my Hartge 5.0 V8 and the drive and looks of the rare M coupe...so this could be a topper! but..as I said have to see if its not a to much torque car for the whole year?
The Z3 coupe 3.2 and this 5.0 V8 coupe are the number one! and I testdriven also a lot other cars then the cars I already owned so for me those cars(Z3 coupe's 3.2 and 5.0) are top rated
try a good one for a day specialy the once with 18 or 19inch wheels and lowered suspension...they are superb specialy for the price, nothing can beat that! GTRene
Edited by GTRene on Saturday 17th February 13:13
GTRene said:
silverback mike said:
sorry to admit, but I have all mine written down, with dates and prices too.RedCabbage said:
Well that makes three of us! 
But mine don't have dates and prices.
If Smartie is the same then Royalty really are a special breed. (And pretty sad?)
But mine don't have dates and prices.
If Smartie is the same then Royalty really are a special breed. (And pretty sad?)
Edited by RedCabbage on Saturday 17th February 11:01
And I noticed something strange about us...we all had a TVR V8S....scary
GTRene
Hmmm..
silverback mike said:
GTRene said:
silverback mike said:
sorry to admit, but I have all mine written down, with dates and prices too.RedCabbage said:
Well that makes three of us!
But mine don't have dates and prices.
If Smartie is the same then Royalty really are a special breed. (And pretty sad?)
But mine don't have dates and prices.
If Smartie is the same then Royalty really are a special breed. (And pretty sad?)
Edited by RedCabbage on Saturday 17th February 11:01
And I noticed something strange about us...we all had a TVR V8S....scary
GTRene
Hmmm..
Cue the Big Brother Psychologist type person...
Rene: a driving Dutchman PH king! PH is a UK-site isn't it?Congratulations. Feels good to be Dutch and pistonheader.
Oh, I am way into the negative range. Why? Hang on too long to my cars: a TVR wedge forever (now over 5 years), a Rover SD1 for over 12 years now, etc. Especially since company cars take the day to day and mileage.
24 years license, 9 cars = -15. This excludes 4 company cars though (isn't a help is it?).
Rob
Oh, I am way into the negative range. Why? Hang on too long to my cars: a TVR wedge forever (now over 5 years), a Rover SD1 for over 12 years now, etc. Especially since company cars take the day to day and mileage.
24 years license, 9 cars = -15. This excludes 4 company cars though (isn't a help is it?).
Rob
350zwelgje said:
Rene: a driving Dutchman PH king! PH is a UK-site isn't it?Congratulations. Feels good to be Dutch and pistonheader.
Oh, I am way into the negative range. Why? Hang on too long to my cars: a TVR wedge forever (now over 5 years), a Rover SD1 for over 12 years now, etc. Especially since company cars take the day to day and mileage.
24 years license, 9 cars = -15. This excludes 4 company cars though (isn't a help is it?).
Rob
Oh, I am way into the negative range. Why? Hang on too long to my cars: a TVR wedge forever (now over 5 years), a Rover SD1 for over 12 years now, etc. Especially since company cars take the day to day and mileage.
24 years license, 9 cars = -15. This excludes 4 company cars though (isn't a help is it?).
Rob
Yeah strange thing doh...never thought I hold stand though with that many cars owned and registered on my name and driven ofcorse it was hard to beat but never thought I'm on top of the list, cause I need a Princes now
Your TVR is that registered in the Netherlands? saw your from Belgium...
TVR are lovely cars with a own character, lovely...
GTRene
GTRene said:
350zwelgje said:
Rene: a driving Dutchman PH king! PH is a UK-site isn't it?Congratulations. Feels good to be Dutch and pistonheader.
Oh, I am way into the negative range. Why? Hang on too long to my cars: a TVR wedge forever (now over 5 years), a Rover SD1 for over 12 years now, etc. Especially since company cars take the day to day and mileage.
24 years license, 9 cars = -15. This excludes 4 company cars though (isn't a help is it?).
Rob
Oh, I am way into the negative range. Why? Hang on too long to my cars: a TVR wedge forever (now over 5 years), a Rover SD1 for over 12 years now, etc. Especially since company cars take the day to day and mileage.
24 years license, 9 cars = -15. This excludes 4 company cars though (isn't a help is it?).
Rob
Yeah strange thing doh...never thought I hold stand though with that many cars owned and registered on my name and driven ofcorse it was hard to beat but never thought I'm on top of the list, cause I need a Princes now
Your TVR is that registered in the Netherlands? saw your from Belgium...
TVR are lovely cars with a own character, lovely...
GTRene
Rene, my wedge is still on its original Dutch registration and yes I am Dutch and live in Belgium already for a long time. Bought the TVR from the first owner and 'gave' it to my father one second after the deal was done! As registing anything of over 2-litres in Belgium is sort of 'expensive'. V8s with 3.5 litres, ehmmm: very expensive (not only road tax, but insurance would bankrupt me). Rather spend that amount of money on petrol and keeping it in technical good nick. So my father will probably be the owner until it is 25 years old, and then I will import it.
Hope you got your paperwork done, and can really enjoy the Hartge. Must be quite a beast (TVR-like BMW = best of both worlds?).
Rob
350zwelgje said:
Rene, my wedge is still on its original Dutch registration and yes I am Dutch and live in Belgium already for a long time. Bought the TVR from the first owner and 'gave' it to my father one second after the deal was done! As registering anything of over 2-litres in Belgium is sort of 'expensive'. V8s with 3.5 litres, ehmmm: very expensive (not only road tax, but insurance would bankrupt me). Rather spend that amount of money on petrol and keeping it in technical good nick. So my father will probably be the owner until it is 25 years old, and then I will import it.
Hope you got your paperwork done, and can really enjoy the Hartge. Must be quite a beast (TVR-like BMW = best of both worlds?).
Rob
Ow is it that expensive in Belgium? so you have no BPM in Belgium but high tax on cars over 2.0L? just like Italy? so Germany is better for a car-nut then?
Anyway I've got all the papers worked out since Tuesday
sow have driven some miles yet bin to the only Hartge dealer in Lent near Nijmegen and they loved it It is TVR Griffith like but then with 100hp more under the bonnet and more torque, over 530nm at low revs, also the Hartge V8 is better usable then a TVR cause the power-band is better so to speak you can use it from 1000>>> to 6.500rpm without losing power till the limiter kicks in...shift next gear and it goes on and on
Though its hard to drive in the wet and even on real dry tarmac in second the wheels still spin and then you don't even have to floor it, so I smoke up the Pirelli's 265/30- 19inch that came standard with this Hartge gently? then I will try some other tires on the back, see if I can get more to the floor, otherwise other cars can use all power and me not because of "to" much
its completely different driving then the M coupe E36 and E46 (S50 and S54) engined cars its indeed a fine crossing between the smoothness of BMW M cars and the rudeness of TVR cars, best of both worlds. GTRene
Silent1 said:
Audi A2
MINI Cooper
MINI Cooper S
Vauxhall VX220
Driving for 3 years
1.33
If i add bikes
Honda CR125
Honda CR500
Honda CBR600
Honda Foreman 450
Yamaha YZ125
It becomes:
PH index of 3
no bikes, you know the rules. bikes are for gay homosexuals.MINI Cooper
MINI Cooper S
Vauxhall VX220
Driving for 3 years
1.33
If i add bikes
Honda CR125
Honda CR500
Honda CBR600
Honda Foreman 450
Yamaha YZ125
It becomes:
PH index of 3
youll be pleased to know that youve just come above touching cloth. now if that mental image doesnt finish you off, i dont know what will.
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