The "Dub" scene

[Gompo]

Ferg said:

Gompo said:

I suppose it comes from having an interest in modified cars.

Now this is really hitting the nail on the head. I can't, off hand, think of many people I know who have a genuine interest in cars who haven't 'modified' theirs. Mine is *almost* completely standard, BUT the flywheel is lightened. So here's the thing.. have I got a modified car? Should I be declaring this fact to the world? Perhaps by putting it in a genre? I grew up with modified cars, but I never felt the need to give what I was doing a name! We wanted to go faster. To go 'round corners quicker. How should I have told the world what bracket I was in??

PS I do actually own a VW, but God forbid I ever call it a 'Dub' or pigeonhole it!

For what it's worth, I've only ever modified one of my cars and that was purely for performance, apart from adding some alloy wheels.

Yes your car is modified, but I have no idea why you'd want to broadcast/declare it to the world. My current car is modified, although I didnt modify it myself. I'd like to think both of my modified cars would be viewed in a positve light on PH and by enthusiasts in general.

..I know you're not being serious, but some people DO classify their performance orientated mods as 'Fast Road' or modified for 'fast road/track work' etc.

..So yes, there's a lot of fashion/trends in the 'Dub' Scene and modified cars in general, but a car following a look/style/genre doesnt necessarily mean it's fashionable. I suppose a lot of these new names are created to promote a car/style/genre that may be a bit different. I try to keep up with them (in my main interests, cars and music) but it can be bloody difficult.

[midgeman]

I must admit I only fit genuine/oem/nos parts where I can but thats more because im a perfectionist with some things like that but Im more of a builder/restorer so prefer quality.
With the aircooled scene theres a big thing on having genuine or NOS parts, they are just pure quality compared to aftermarket repro.
The chrome is much thicker and shinyer, the metal is thicker, things fit much better.

Its expensive but worth it, a good quality 80's or 90's (ie golf) repro part can be just as good though these days, sometimes not, so im not as picky with the mk2 as to be honest it really doesnt matter as its a daily, not restored like the split, most trim things are better though if they are genuine german items as they do fit better. I use GSF alot as they are a good mix of 'quality' and reasonable price.
I fitted repro headlight trims on the split last year - they were rusted completely in 6 months, so I put the genuine battered Hella ones back on, not a spot of rust on them and they are 46 years old!

[Matt_N]

tinman0 said:

midgeman said:

The way I see it is its like any car scene or make, you can fit an MGB for example with new halfords spotlights and wheels but an oem look would be lucas, period 60's Brit lights and wire wheels.
So an OEM look in the VW world would be period items or manufacturer recommended/supplied parts so german wheels like BBS, Bosch or Hella parts or other vag parts that suit the make and era..!?

Though personally I always thought that would apply to a 'correct' looking car and OEM being Origonal Equipment Manufacture? Means using a genuine manufacturers part?

Exactly, and half these cars don't use OEM parts in the first place. Why buy a bit of trim from the VAG parts desk when you can mail order a pattern part for half the price inc shipping from Euro Car Parts?

The problem with many of these Golfs is that even with the description "OEM" they are using parts that weren't available at the time. A 1980s Mk2 Golf did not roll around on 17" wheels, and nor did people chrome the crap out of their Castellet wheels. And no one ever put G60 plastic wing surrounds on their Golfs in the 80 or 90s, that is an entirely modern thing.

Another thing that annoys me intently is the blacked out rear clusters. Again, that was only ever on a 1988 Campaign, and on some of the GTIs in the final days of the Mk2. So buy everyone putting them on their car they dilute the specialness of the original limited editions - some of which - like 1906VC - still exist.

Half tinted Hella lights were indeed on the Campaign model, but they were also on every 90 spec big bumper model.

I had a late small bumper 16v and fitted the half tinted lights as they looked 10x better.

[midgeman]

My mk2 has tinted lights on it :S looks ok though, subtle with the colour of the car anyway. Assume that these could have been factory or genuine hella then as they arnt black just lightly tinted compared to the driver that I had.

Edited by midgeman on Friday 19th November 10:25

[SamPet]

I'd be interested to hear your opinions on my old Golf.

Flame away!

[Alfa numeric]

Looks like a nasty green stain on the drivers seat.

[davepoth]

And a distinctly non-standard copy of a Stereophonics album in the door cubby? what's that about?

[ManOpener]

Too much metal on the wheels, and the chrome mirrors are pretty horrid.
Besides that, nowt really wrong with it. It's hardly "shaved" and "slammed" though, is it?

The only "dub"-ish car I've ever seen and really, really liked was a Peloquin'ed 2.0 G60 turbo, Oak Green with 17" Porsche Twist split-rims. It might have been a smidgin too low, and had some godawful stretch going on, but besides that it looks utterly stunning in a way that so many modern coupes fail to be.

[Gandi69]

Personally I think lowered slightly (not a scaper) and maybe some different wheels is all you need. Never seen the point in intentionally making a reasonably modern car rusty and "rat look". Only works if its its an ancient heap thats gathered its patina over years of neglect - Series Land Rover owners have been doing it for years.

[AshVanguard]

Glassman said:

Just dusted off my King Jammy and Mad Professor records...

yes yes!
i know about That scene very well but not about the car one much

Edited by AshVanguard on Friday 19th November 15:18