Tyre Stretching!!! PH strikes again.
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I've read very little of this, but bloody good if they get reported to the police.
It means theres one less of them on the road to come ploughing into me when one of their stupid stretched tyres comes off.
I do not care if it hasn't caused any accidents yet, or if it is theoretically safe, or whatever arguement the VW scene can come up with, I'm still going to trust my instincts which are telling me it cannot be a good idea.
It means theres one less of them on the road to come ploughing into me when one of their stupid stretched tyres comes off.
I do not care if it hasn't caused any accidents yet, or if it is theoretically safe, or whatever arguement the VW scene can come up with, I'm still going to trust my instincts which are telling me it cannot be a good idea.
otolith said:
I love it from 1:00 onwards, he's ramming the other car.
On a f
king trackday.Jesus tittyf
king christ, even his passenger is trying to stop him.honda01 now has his own thread here
I'm hoping he'll come along to provide a dangerous driving 101 for all the PHers who are desperate to improve their trackdays. I feel if these tactics were employed on the nurburgring then we might see some sub 6 minute laps in 2.0tdi vectra
I feel everyone will enjoy from 1:00 onwards where he starts ramming another car.
I'm hoping he'll come along to provide a dangerous driving 101 for all the PHers who are desperate to improve their trackdays. I feel if these tactics were employed on the nurburgring then we might see some sub 6 minute laps in 2.0tdi vectra
I feel everyone will enjoy from 1:00 onwards where he starts ramming another car.
Edited by Silent1 on Wednesday 13th October 07:12
Silent1 said:
honda01 now has his own thread here
I'm hoping he'll come along to provide a dangerous driving 101 for all the PHers who are desperate to improve their trackdays. I feel if these tactics were employed on the nurburgring then we might see some sub 6 minute laps in 2.0tdi vectra
I feel everyone will enjoy from 1:00 onwards where he starts ramming another car.
What a I'm hoping he'll come along to provide a dangerous driving 101 for all the PHers who are desperate to improve their trackdays. I feel if these tactics were employed on the nurburgring then we might see some sub 6 minute laps in 2.0tdi vectra
I feel everyone will enjoy from 1:00 onwards where he starts ramming another car.
Edited by Silent1 on Wednesday 13th October 07:12
.This is a huge thread and I've not read the whole lot, but has anyone seen this?
http://www.balancemotorsport.co.uk/main.asp?catego...
Halfway down the page......
"Generally speaking it helps to have a wider wheel. Assuming you are already running low profile tyres of a reasonable width you may benefit from increasing the rim width. For optimum performance it is good to have a rim as wide, or wider than the tyre. This will stretch the sidewall of the tyre making it stiffer and ensuring that there is less deflection of the tyre in the corner. This results in lower slip angles and a higher limit of adhesion."
Seems strange.
http://www.balancemotorsport.co.uk/main.asp?catego...
Halfway down the page......
"Generally speaking it helps to have a wider wheel. Assuming you are already running low profile tyres of a reasonable width you may benefit from increasing the rim width. For optimum performance it is good to have a rim as wide, or wider than the tyre. This will stretch the sidewall of the tyre making it stiffer and ensuring that there is less deflection of the tyre in the corner. This results in lower slip angles and a higher limit of adhesion."
Seems strange.
irodger said:
This is a huge thread and I've not read the whole lot, but has anyone seen this?
http://www.balancemotorsport.co.uk/main.asp?catego...
Halfway down the page......
"Generally speaking it helps to have a wider wheel. Assuming you are already running low profile tyres of a reasonable width you may benefit from increasing the rim width. For optimum performance it is good to have a rim as wide, or wider than the tyre. This will stretch the sidewall of the tyre making it stiffer and ensuring that there is less deflection of the tyre in the corner. This results in lower slip angles and a higher limit of adhesion."
Seems strange.
it's not saying 'have massively wide wheels and stretch the tire as far as poss'http://www.balancemotorsport.co.uk/main.asp?catego...
Halfway down the page......
"Generally speaking it helps to have a wider wheel. Assuming you are already running low profile tyres of a reasonable width you may benefit from increasing the rim width. For optimum performance it is good to have a rim as wide, or wider than the tyre. This will stretch the sidewall of the tyre making it stiffer and ensuring that there is less deflection of the tyre in the corner. This results in lower slip angles and a higher limit of adhesion."
Seems strange.
what it does say is that a race car will benefit from a slightly wider wheel to increase the track width and suggests that a slightly stretched tire will be flex less.
irodger said:
This is a huge thread and I've not read the whole lot, but has anyone seen this?
http://www.balancemotorsport.co.uk/main.asp?catego...
Halfway down the page......
"Generally speaking it helps to have a wider wheel. Assuming you are already running low profile tyres of a reasonable width you may benefit from increasing the rim width. For optimum performance it is good to have a rim as wide, or wider than the tyre. This will stretch the sidewall of the tyre making it stiffer and ensuring that there is less deflection of the tyre in the corner. This results in lower slip angles and a higher limit of adhesion."
Seems strange.
To me, a tiny, and I mean tiny, bit of stretch would be OK. But to have it stretched till it looks like it would rip is insane on a track.http://www.balancemotorsport.co.uk/main.asp?catego...
Halfway down the page......
"Generally speaking it helps to have a wider wheel. Assuming you are already running low profile tyres of a reasonable width you may benefit from increasing the rim width. For optimum performance it is good to have a rim as wide, or wider than the tyre. This will stretch the sidewall of the tyre making it stiffer and ensuring that there is less deflection of the tyre in the corner. This results in lower slip angles and a higher limit of adhesion."
Seems strange.
Conian said:
irodger said:
This is a huge thread and I've not read the whole lot, but has anyone seen this?
http://www.balancemotorsport.co.uk/main.asp?catego...
Halfway down the page......
"Generally speaking it helps to have a wider wheel. Assuming you are already running low profile tyres of a reasonable width you may benefit from increasing the rim width. For optimum performance it is good to have a rim as wide, or wider than the tyre. This will stretch the sidewall of the tyre making it stiffer and ensuring that there is less deflection of the tyre in the corner. This results in lower slip angles and a higher limit of adhesion."
Seems strange.
it's not saying 'have massively wide wheels and stretch the tire as far as poss'http://www.balancemotorsport.co.uk/main.asp?catego...
Halfway down the page......
"Generally speaking it helps to have a wider wheel. Assuming you are already running low profile tyres of a reasonable width you may benefit from increasing the rim width. For optimum performance it is good to have a rim as wide, or wider than the tyre. This will stretch the sidewall of the tyre making it stiffer and ensuring that there is less deflection of the tyre in the corner. This results in lower slip angles and a higher limit of adhesion."
Seems strange.
what it does say is that a race car will benefit from a slightly wider wheel to increase the track width and suggests that a slightly stretched tire will be flex less.
Just kidding 
If you look at touring cars, open wheeled racing cars etc, they do tend to have a slight stretch. But you still need a tyre to act as part of the chassis and absorb impact i.e. flex a little. I think the wording of that site could make some people think "stretching = racing cars, I'm going to do that to my Golf! Woo hoo!".
If its just for the look and they're not driven hard, then it can't do too much harm IMO. You regularly see slammed, big-wheeled cars trundling along doing 40mph on the M-way, so they must know their tyres aren't safe at speed.
Is that a motorbike tyre?FLK said:
cockneyplayboy said:
just in case anyones interested, here is something I found.
I'm neither endorsing nor condeming it or their words, was just interested in reading it.
http://www.torquevw.com/how_to_guides/general_allo...
Personally I think the 'stretching' on the cars in the pics are a bit OTT and I'd never go for that on my own cars but thats just my personal opinion......
I'm neither endorsing nor condeming it or their words, was just interested in reading it.
http://www.torquevw.com/how_to_guides/general_allo...
Personally I think the 'stretching' on the cars in the pics are a bit OTT and I'd never go for that on my own cars but thats just my personal opinion......
Article said:
So if it is safe to run stretched rubber on a drift car doing over 100 mph on a track then it'll be fine on a modified Volkswagen. Please keep in mind that you are more likely to break traction so take extra care.
This is a laughable statement in my opinion, which also seems to later contradict itself. So he is saying what is safe on track then is also safe on public roads which are not a controlled environment such as a race track?They deformed the tyres to make them grip LESS.
They were probably aware this may result in blowouts etc too, but were aware they were in a controlled environment with lots of safety gear.
Think how many blowouts occur with correctly fitted tyres, then add this deformation of the tyre and the increased pressure, plus the potential of the arches rubbing on badly modified vehicles and you have a recipe for disaster.
The legal side is a grey area and your likley to get pulled by the BiB alot too.
Why not just put some fat tyres on and be done with it?
proseal said:
I believe your all a bunch of tts, who are you to say if something is bad or good, it is entirely up to the OWNER OF THE CAR to decide on what he likes, and why do you give a fk, your on a website that is devoted to fast cars hypocrites. i hate you all
Bless.ts, who are you to say if something is bad or good, it is entirely up to the OWNER OF THE CAR to decide on what he likes, and why do you give a fk, your on a website that is devoted to fast cars hypocrites. i hate you all Not a good day at school? Did the teachers tell you off?
proseal said:
I believe your all a bunch of tts, who are you to say if something is bad or good, it is entirely up to the OWNER OF THE CAR to decide on what he likes, and why do you give a fk, your on a website that is devoted to fast cars hypocrites. i hate you all
ts, who are you to say if something is bad or good, it is entirely up to the OWNER OF THE CAR to decide on what he likes, and why do you give a fk, your on a website that is devoted to fast cars hypocrites. i hate you all 
I love that you took the time out to register just to post that.
Shine on you crazy diamond
Edited by Marf on Monday 18th October 15:58
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