A clown takes a pratfall

[hornetrider]

wile7 said:

getawayturtle said:

This may have been linked on here already, it came up on the side of one of the other vids.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPy35i8cb60

Here he is being tailgated, so he decides to block the entire line of traffic from going anywhere and forgets how to talk properly.

Oh dear...he is not helping his cause (or that of other cyclists) is he? Bless.

He seems to be riding towards the centre of the road even though there are no parked cars/vans blocking the pavement or side of the road.

That is an accepted technique for defensive riding and I don't have a problem with that. It prevents cars trying to overtake when there's not really enough room passing traffic islands where it would force the rider into the kerb.

What I have a problem with is him coming to a full halt in the middle of the road, mouthing off to the driver, holding up a queue of traffic and using exaggerated hand signals for the benefit of his wk-cam. Absolute tosser of the highest order.

[VolvoT5]

hornetrider said:

That is an accepted technique for defensive riding and I don't have a problem with that. It prevents cars trying to overtake when there's not really enough room passing traffic islands where it would force the rider into the kerb.

What I have a problem with is him coming to a full halt in the middle of the road, mouthing off to the driver, holding up a queue of traffic and using exaggerated hand signals for the benefit of his wk-cam. Absolute tosser of the highest order.

^This. At 12 seconds in there was even a bus stop he could have pulled over into for a moment to get himself out of the way of the tailgating car.... that would have been my preferred option if I were cycling in that situation.... much better than stopped dead in the middle of the road and mouthing off.

[996TT02]

VolvoT5 said:

getawayturtle said:

This may have been linked on here already, it came up on the side of one of the other vids.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPy35i8cb60

Here he is being tailgated, so he decides to block the entire line of traffic from going anywhere and forgets how to talk properly.

Clearly he is being tailgated........

Clearly he is creating a situation where he is inevitably going to be tailgated.

Does anyone on here honestly believe that someone will go to the trouble of charging up, rigging no less than two cameras front and rear, and goes out for a "ride" without any intention of obtaining a result? Seriously? Do normal cyclists always rig up two cameras on every ride? I don't and I don't know anyone who does.

He goes out with the specific intention of creating a situation where there would normally not be one.

Quite honestly someone should have a word with this idiot, and I am not sure of how acceptable it is for YT to host videos that are produced by a person who creates them by instigating and provoking others to react, possibly violently.

There is one thing that is not being realised by regular cyclists, and perhaps not appreciated by non cyclists.

A fit rider (assume this idiot is one such as he seems to get out quite a bit) on a bike of the sort that he is riding, will very very easily reach speeds that will require no tailgating nor overtaking by any motorised vehicles. And no, I do not mean by riding flat out as it were. Riding at a normal speed that a normal person out on a normal ride would do. A road bike is a fast bike with relatively little effort. That's what it's built for. Flowing with traffic on the sort of suburban streets that this idiot trawls in, is no problem at all, indeed it will usually be the cyclist who tailgates the vehicles ahead, and will need to reduce speed or stop at most junctions where vehicles are waiting to turn.

As previous, he creates situations where there should be none, and the above (riding more slowly than normal) is just one technique.

A normal person - be they cyclists, or drivers - immediately realises that certain situations can evolve into difficult ones. It is instinctive, we are only half aware of this, it happens every time we ride or drive, and we take action to avoid this happening. Moving over just a little bit, slowing down, speeding up, putting our indicators on particularly early, or deliberately late, it's part of the near telepathic game we play daily, understanding what the other driver intends to do, or making sure that our intentions are clear to everyone else.

This idiot clearly sees the situations coming up, and very deliberately does the exact opposite a normal person would do, just to ensure that the situation complicates itself to the worst possible outcome. Worst, but for his ends, best.

[walm]

In fairness to this van driver, he is at least giving the cyclist as much room as he does for a car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wgIgmYWhZs

[andyb66]

Have we seen this one? Car nearly pulls out on fast decent.

I think he is disappointed that the car driver has a conciliatory attitude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oesq0tqNjQo

[colonel c]

andyb66 said:

Have we seen this one? Car nearly pulls out on fast decent.

I think he is disappointed that the car driver has a conciliatory attitude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oesq0tqNjQo

Cyclist was going too fast. He said himself that he had his brakes on going over thirty. I'm not surprised the driver did not see him. It was a bright sunny day he was coming out of a shadowed wood section of road at speed.
More and more these guys seem too unnecessarily involve themselves in potentially dangerous incidents in order to get their videos on YouTube.

[wile7]

andyb66 said:

Have we seen this one? Car nearly pulls out on fast decent.

I think he is disappointed that the car driver has a conciliatory attitude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oesq0tqNjQo

That driver looks a bit like Russell Grant that Astrologer fella. If it was he should have seen that cyclist coming

[Foppo]

The cyclist admits the road is dangerous.Why cycling like you are in a race on roads like these? I am a cyclist have been for sixty years and drive a car.

Maybe I am spoiled grew up in a country where cycle paths are the norm.In this country a lot of cyclist are to blame for their own actions just take it steady wear the right gear and calm down.

[anonymous-user]

996TT02 said:

This idiot clearly sees the situations coming up, and very deliberately does the exact opposite a normal person would do, just to ensure that the situation complicates itself to the worst possible outcome. Worst, but for his ends, best.

This sums the whole thing up.

[anonymous-user]

walm said:

In fairness to this van driver, he is at least giving the cyclist as much room as he does for a car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wgIgmYWhZs

The driver is a st driver in a st van that probably never gets serviced and it looks like he has st brakes to go with it.

It makes flying 405 man look like a saint.

[mattlad]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ntxtxlKbFE

[fatboy69]

hornetrider said:

getawayturtle said:

This may have been linked on here already, it came up on the side of one of the other vids.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPy35i8cb60

Here he is being tailgated, so he decides to block the entire line of traffic from going anywhere and forgets how to talk properly.

What an absolute .

However, do we think he has some kind of mental disorder? Genuine question. Asbergers or something?

No. He is fking idiot. One day he will try it on with another 'Peugeot 504' driver who will give him the ttting that he deserves.

He seems to be hell bent on having the road all too himself. Maybe the 'clown' in the 504 wasn't such an idiot after all.

The more of his 'don't come near me' blah blah blah videos I watch the more I become convinced that e is a danger to other road users.

[Escort3500]

I'd like to think I wouldn't make the driving errors some of the clowns make on this guy's clips, but we all make mistakes at times. However, if he approached me with the sortof self-righteous, judgemental attitude that seems to be his default setting I'd find it very difficult not to verbally react, which of course is what he wants. A bigger bloke than me would probably take it a lot further and deck the little tt, with some justification.

[anonymous-user]

http://youtu.be/5IbSpJBxYWI

It's ok to tell people to fk off if you are a cyclist?

It's worth reading the description and comments in this one.

[Challo]

The cyclist seems to attract every bad driver on our roads. What rotten luck

[SonicShadow]

mattlad said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ntxtxlKbFE

Looks about right for Gravesend.

[Steve_W]

colonel c said:

andyb66 said:

Have we seen this one? Car nearly pulls out on fast decent.

I think he is disappointed that the car driver has a conciliatory attitude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oesq0tqNjQo

Cyclist was going too fast. He said himself that he had his brakes on going over thirty. I'm not surprised the driver did not see him. It was a bright sunny day he was coming out of a shadowed wood section of road at speed.
More and more these guys seem too unnecessarily involve themselves in potentially dangerous incidents in order to get their videos on YouTube.

I know that area; he's coming down Sulham Hill onto Mill Lane. Flying down there in any form of transport is asking for trouble as at the bottom of the hill Sulham Lane joins at 90 degrees on the right.

The 30 mph section is there because anyone coming out of Sulham Lane can't see back up the hill far at all due to the bend of the road and a tall bank holding up the old schoolhouse. It's one of those country lanes that you drop your windows to listen for approaching traffic and are half way out before you can see up the hill.

He obviously knows the area so he's his own worst enemy flying down there as if he had to avoid someone coming out of the junction the only place he can go is into the telephone box opposite.

He's also lucky that it was only a Volvo pulling out of Nunhide Lane as that leads to farms so you've got tractors on harvest work in and out of that junction at the moment - riding into one of those would put more than a dent in his pride and I don't think the drivers would bother to stop to be shouted at by some nutter on a bike.

[jonny996]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6jbBMZrL1g
This is one of his early ones, is it just me or does he pull out to hit the pot hole? if he kept on his original track he would have missed it. He is a very strange chap.

[anonymous-user]

Challo said:

The cyclist seems to attract every bad driver on our roads. What rotten luck

In one of his most recent comments he mentions his journey was 56 miles. He is a fit cyclist and appears to spend a lot of time on the road.

If this is the case I would say he is pretty lucky only encountering one close pass or rubbish driver in 56 miles.

It makes it all the more odd that he was unable to tackle the road in his pratfall video.

Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 7th August 14:04

[Harji]

996TT02 said:

VolvoT5 said:

getawayturtle said:

This may have been linked on here already, it came up on the side of one of the other vids.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPy35i8cb60

Here he is being tailgated, so he decides to block the entire line of traffic from going anywhere and forgets how to talk properly.

Clearly he is being tailgated........

Clearly he is creating a situation where he is inevitably going to be tailgated.

Does anyone on here honestly believe that someone will go to the trouble of charging up, rigging no less than two cameras front and rear, and goes out for a "ride" without any intention of obtaining a result? Seriously? Do normal cyclists always rig up two cameras on every ride? I don't and I don't know anyone who does.

He goes out with the specific intention of creating a situation where there would normally not be one.

Quite honestly someone should have a word with this idiot, and I am not sure of how acceptable it is for YT to host videos that are produced by a person who creates them by instigating and provoking others to react, possibly violently.

There is one thing that is not being realised by regular cyclists, and perhaps not appreciated by non cyclists.

A fit rider (assume this idiot is one such as he seems to get out quite a bit) on a bike of the sort that he is riding, will very very easily reach speeds that will require no tailgating nor overtaking by any motorised vehicles. And no, I do not mean by riding flat out as it were. Riding at a normal speed that a normal person out on a normal ride would do. A road bike is a fast bike with relatively little effort. That's what it's built for. Flowing with traffic on the sort of suburban streets that this idiot trawls in, is no problem at all, indeed it will usually be the cyclist who tailgates the vehicles ahead, and will need to reduce speed or stop at most junctions where vehicles are waiting to turn.

As previous, he creates situations where there should be none, and the above (riding more slowly than normal) is just one technique.

A normal person - be they cyclists, or drivers - immediately realises that certain situations can evolve into difficult ones. It is instinctive, we are only half aware of this, it happens every time we ride or drive, and we take action to avoid this happening. Moving over just a little bit, slowing down, speeding up, putting our indicators on particularly early, or deliberately late, it's part of the near telepathic game we play daily, understanding what the other driver intends to do, or making sure that our intentions are clear to everyone else.

This idiot clearly sees the situations coming up, and very deliberately does the exact opposite a normal person would do, just to ensure that the situation complicates itself to the worst possible outcome. Worst, but for his ends, best.

The driver was completely wrong, one thing I fail to understand about drivers, even when trying to overtake a car is why tailgate or get close as possible first? It means visibility of oncoming traffic is reduced, it means you can't pull back in for an aborted overtake, it also means slowing down to tailgate then building the momentum up again, nothing to be gained except creating a dangerous situation.