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[Baryonyx]

phil_cardiff said:

No wonder you're tired. I probably wouldn't use that route for the journey.

Aye, and if you tire of the W140 and I can't scratch the Jaguar itch I have at the moment, give me a shout, I'm local (ish).

[anonymous-user]

This thread got me looking at 124's having spent the last 2 months looking for a decent US spec w211 e350 ad drawing a blank,

What are peoples thoughts on this?
http://www.gieldaklasykow.pl/mercedes-e420-w124-19...

Is this a rarity or just a run of the mill w124 JDM spec w124 with a bodykit? Theres a pretty nice looking pillarless coupe on there too. (Excuse the Polish they all seem to speak foreign here) Both are slightly over thread budget at around 5500 but i'm sure there's some negotiation to be done.

Really tempted but with a house purchase on the horizon and a wedding to pay for maybe a 22 year old Merc is a bad idea On the flip side it could be a fantastic idea as theres probably zero depreciation to worry about.

[Strawman]

CDB1983 said:

Is this a rarity or just a run of the mill w124 JDM spec w124 with a bodykit?

Fairly rare, I've only seen them for sale before on a Korean web site but think they were sold in (LHD) European countries as well. The AMG part is just the bodykit and wheels, AMG did make a few 6l and 3.6L versions with their handbuilt engines fitted but never a 420 AFAIK.
I think DIY repairs would be a challenge given the tight fit in the engine bay.

[NastyNick74]

Did you check out the S124 at the bottom of that Polish web page? 55kish kilometres for 19,900zl, that's about £3800!!!

If that's not smack bang within thread budget and an absolute bargain, I don't know what is! Be great fun driving it back from Poland too.

[radiodanno]

NastyNick74 said:

Did you check out the S124 at the bottom of that Polish web page? 55kish kilometres for 19,900zl, that's about £3800!!!

If that's not smack bang within thread budget and an absolute bargain, I don't know what is! Be great fun driving it back from Poland too.

Agreed.

Mercedes 300 TE - another star with low mileage, imported from Japan. This time it is not a proposition for lovers of full compliance with factory specifications - the previous owner decided to install not only the AMG steering wheel, but the whole front of the newer E-class. This does not change the fact that this offer is now available at a lower price, and the car will be able to serve for many years as it was made ​​for this - combining comfort with universal transport capabilities - such as we find here. Folding space for additional two people in the trunk.

And 59,000 km on the clock?!

[Fast Bug]

CDB1983 said:

This thread got me looking at 124's having spent the last 2 months looking for a decent US spec w211 e350 ad drawing a blank,

What are peoples thoughts on this?
http://www.gieldaklasykow.pl/mercedes-e420-w124-19...

Is this a rarity or just a run of the mill w124 JDM spec w124 with a bodykit? Theres a pretty nice looking pillarless coupe on there too. (Excuse the Polish they all seem to speak foreign here) Both are slightly over thread budget at around 5500 but i'm sure there's some negotiation to be done.

Really tempted but with a house purchase on the horizon and a wedding to pay for maybe a 22 year old Merc is a bad idea On the flip side it could be a fantastic idea as theres probably zero depreciation to worry about.

I really like that

[jonnydm]

confused_buyer said:

Baryonyx said:

Have you tried an X308 XJ up close? They are beautiful things but they could not be more different from the E65. The Jaguar feels a world apart from even it's contemporary competition with it's classic styling. Some of the interior touches are dreadful (a tape player on a late 90's Luxury car?), some of them sublime. For a massive car, the interior doesn't half shrink around you and the low seating position and long bonnet make it feel very much the individual. The drive is fantastic though.

It easy easy to pick holes in an X308. Often quite literally with your index finger. But. But. There is something about them. They actually have the best ride/handling setup of any car from that era and possibly since. Way ahead of the German stuff.

The Lexus is frankly way ahead in any rational sense and the better car...yet I can fully understand why someone might choose an X308 instead.

Once test drove an XJR of that vintage. Didn't feel fast but a look at the speedo confirmed that it was, held the road fairly well too. Realised that I was looking for something a bit more nimble rather than wafty at the time though.

[Agent Orange]

SOTW £950 120K miles CE?

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyI...

[Rocksteadyeddie]

Strawman said:

Fairly rare, I've only seen them for sale before on a Korean web site but think they were sold in (LHD) European countries as well. The AMG part is just the bodykit and wheels, AMG did make a few 6l and 3.6L versions with their handbuilt engines fitted but never a 420 AFAIK.
I think DIY repairs would be a challenge given the tight fit in the engine bay.

What the hell is going on with the air intake? Is that fashioned from an old welly?

[BigBen]

Strawman said:

Fairly rare, I've only seen them for sale before on a Korean web site but think they were sold in (LHD) European countries as well. The AMG part is just the bodykit and wheels, AMG did make a few 6l and 3.6L versions with their handbuilt engines fitted but never a 420 AFAIK.
I think DIY repairs would be a challenge given the tight fit in the engine bay.

Wikipedia suggests that the 420 engine was available in the W124 in some markets, just not the UK. No suggestion it was an AMG model.

That makes this car more interesting to me, I had no idea that a 420 W124 existed

Ben

[NastyNick74]

Get rid of those 210 series alloys, put some period 15 hole ones and that is a nice place to be. I agree the "generally starts on the button" statement is slightly worrying. But it's under a bag at the end of the day.

Get it bought.

[Strawman]

BigBen said:

Wikipedia suggests that the 420 engine was available in the W124 in some markets, just not the UK. No suggestion it was an AMG model.

Yes, I suspect only made in LHD though, would a RHD version have had problems with squeezing the steering column past the engine?

[r129sl]

BigBen said:

Strawman said:

Fairly rare, I've only seen them for sale before on a Korean web site but think they were sold in (LHD) European countries as well. The AMG part is just the bodykit and wheels, AMG did make a few 6l and 3.6L versions with their handbuilt engines fitted but never a 420 AFAIK.
I think DIY repairs would be a challenge given the tight fit in the engine bay.

Wikipedia suggests that the 420 engine was available in the W124 in some markets, just not the UK. No suggestion it was an AMG model.

That makes this car more interesting to me, I had no idea that a 420 W124 existed

Ben

The 400 E and E420 were offered in LHD markets from about 1991. They are relatively plentiful in Europe and America. Unlike the 500 E and E500 cars, they have the same running gear as the 300 E-24, the 320 E and the E320 (i.e., stock suspension but bigger brakes). They were available with or without the sportline option. These "AMG" kitted cars were produced for the Japanese market. I have seen a couple before. I suspect that for most people the AMG stuff actually counts against the car but taste is a matter of taste.

Personally, I think the 400 E or E420 would be better cars than the 500 E or E500. You get all that V8ness without the high cost bodywork and running gear and without the somewhat lairy looks of the Zuffenhausen-built car. They are also much, much cheaper than the 500s. If you can put up with LHD, I think one of these cars would be very nice indeed.

There are loads of them out there but this one looks nice and subtle. Velours, too. Note how much more second hand cars command in Europe. http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/mercedes-benz...

Nice little project for me here: http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/mercedes-benz...

"After four years it's time for something new. That's why I offer here on my 400E V8.

It is one of the first 400 in the popular Mopf 1 version (better paint and preservatives).

The car is original, non-tinkering and has the original paint. Due to the somewhat stuffy smoke silver color very subtly and unobtrusively.

The equipment leaves nothing to be desired. To the then new price of 92,000 DM DM come again to 25,000 extras. What is missing is a seat heater and ASR.

The right wing has gotten a parking bumps and the automatic transmission slipping something between 2nd and 3rd gear. Spare gear there is to it.

The vulnerabilities engine wiring harness and ignition system have been renewed in recent years.
Brake discs, pads and handbrake also new.

The vehicle's interior and exterior well maintained and you can see him not to kilometers.

The 400E is not a race car. It can fast, but do not necessarily want. It is designed for comfort through the long translation. The motor rotates in normal operation rarely 2000. what makes it so durable.

I am in the evening, on weekends or e-mail away."

Edited by r129sl on Friday 22 August 11:11

[r129sl]

phil_cardiff said:

No wonder you're tired. I probably wouldn't use that route for the journey.

I was just going a different way for a change and in order to see more of the country. I usually go to Carmarthen on the A483 and A40. I suspect the best way back would be A48, M4, M5 but it is so boring.

[BigBen]

r129sl said:

BigBen said:

Strawman said:

Fairly rare, I've only seen them for sale before on a Korean web site but think they were sold in (LHD) European countries as well. The AMG part is just the bodykit and wheels, AMG did make a few 6l and 3.6L versions with their handbuilt engines fitted but never a 420 AFAIK.
I think DIY repairs would be a challenge given the tight fit in the engine bay.

Wikipedia suggests that the 420 engine was available in the W124 in some markets, just not the UK. No suggestion it was an AMG model.

That makes this car more interesting to me, I had no idea that a 420 W124 existed

Ben

The 400 E and E420 were offered in LHD markets from about 1991. They are relatively plentiful in Europe and America. Unlike the 500 E and E500 cars, they have the same running gear as the 300 E-24, the 320 E and the E320 (i.e., stock suspension but bigger brakes). They were available with or without the sportline option. These "AMG" kitted cars were produced for the Japanese market. I have seen a couple before. I suspect that for most people the AMG stuff actually counts against the car but taste is a matter of taste.

Personally, I think the 400 E or E420 would be better cars than the 500 E or E500. You get all that V8ness without the high cost bodywork and running gear and without the somewhat lairy looks of the Zuffenhausen-built car. They are also much, much cheaper than the 500s. If you can put up with LHD, I think one of these cars would be very nice indeed.

There are loads of them out there but this one looks nice and subtle. Velours, too. Note how much more second hand cars command in Europe. http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/mercedes-benz...

Ah yes wasn't paying attention to the pictures on the Polish web site. I had assumed that Japanese car meant it was RHD. All much clearer now. The body kit was not really my cup of tea yet the V8 was

[r129sl]

BigBen said:

Ah yes wasn't paying attention to the pictures on the Polish web site. I had assumed that Japanese car meant it was RHD. All much clearer now. The body kit was not really my cup of tea yet the V8 was

The bizarre thing about the Japanese prestige car market is that LHD is considered a desirable option (Japan being a RHD country). Apparently this is because an imported car is more prestigious and LHD makes it clear beyond doubt even to the least-interested observer that the car is an import. So a lot of BMWs, Mercedes and Porsche in Japan are LHD.

V8 124 in stealth body would be something, wouldn't it?

[BigBen]

r129sl said:

BigBen said:

Ah yes wasn't paying attention to the pictures on the Polish web site. I had assumed that Japanese car meant it was RHD. All much clearer now. The body kit was not really my cup of tea yet the V8 was

The bizarre thing about the Japanese prestige car market is that LHD is considered a desirable option (Japan being a RHD country). Apparently this is because an imported car is more prestigious and LHD makes it clear beyond doubt even to the least-interested observer that the car is an import. So a lot of BMWs, Mercedes and Porsche in Japan are LHD.

V8 124 in stealth body would be something, wouldn't it?

Yes I had read that before about LHD in Japan. Now I think of it I have certainly seen a good few 400E badged W124s in the US.

Now off to Google if Australia or SA had them

Ben

[phil_cardiff]

r129sl said:

phil_cardiff said:

No wonder you're tired. I probably wouldn't use that route for the journey.

I was just going a different way for a change and in order to see more of the country. I usually go to Carmarthen on the A483 and A40. I suspect the best way back would be A48, M4, M5 but it is so boring.

Fair point, the way you went is anything but boring.

Quickest for you would probably be A48, M4, A465, A40, M50, M5.

[Budleigh]

r129sl said:

I used to drive until the fuel ran out but now I stop about once every 250miles. Going down to Swansea and back I stop once in each direction. If I have to be there early, I break overnight at Worcester Premier Inn or Oswestry Travelodge.

Some time ago now I fell asleep at the wheel a couple of times and, while nothing bad happened, it made me realise that once tiredness sets in I have to take a decent break. It's funny, when I was younger I did even more driving than I do now and it had little effect. These days a long drive (which I'd put at 400miles in a day) leaves me tired for a couple of days afterwards. The 124 is easier than the 140 but then the 140 I was driving is itself a bit on the tired and worn side. Having to make constant adjustments at the wheel is hard work. It is also a very big car compared with the 124. Yesterday I came up through Lampeter and Tregaron and while it was beautiful country it was a lot of effort pressing it up narrow roads without losing time.

Edited by r129sl on Wednesday 20th August 22:41

I do about 800 miles across South Africa in my E34 - it's the sort of distance that makes one yearn for double-glazing and a slightly more new-age gearbox. And the last 200 miles is narrow farmland road of a crumbly aspect, replete with suicidal cattle and locals whose driving habits can fray the nerves of even the most determined driver.

I imagine that the journey would be more easily dispatched in something like a late E38, but I WOULD like to try out a W140 one day - preferably one in fine fettle.

[Baryonyx]

Private Pile said:

To Barryonyx, I may be in Northumberland next Thursday a.m. and could drop you off at Falkirk train station. Then your only a 30 minute ride away on the train.

I can't confirm just now, but let me know if your interested.

Thank you very much for the kind offer, but I'm at work next Thursday, and this late in the day, there is no such thing as taking time off!