RE: BMW i3: Review
Discussion
McWigglebum4th said:
0a said:
And engine noise!
You want engine noise?I have a micra with a blowing exhaust
0a said:
Strange how the Evo review is so negative - I suspect the i3 would be ideal for many people: but these people are 100% non petrolheads, the kind of people that would never miss driving if a fully automated car came out.
Just because i don't deeply enjoy the prospect of sitting on a stationary dual carriageway first thing on a monday morning with a nosiey engine clattering away under the bonnet doesn't mean i don't like carsEdited by McWigglebum4th on Wednesday 20th November 06:47
JP78 said:
andyps said:
On a quick Google search it works out cheaper than this - http://www.europcar.co.uk/EBE/module/render/Presti... - but that looks like it is for a 3 series and you only pay when you want it rather than giving BMW money you may not spend.
OK so to start with on BMW Access you can have a 1 Series, 3 Series (Saloon or Touring), 5 Series (Saloon or Touring) X1 or X3. More models will potentially be added in the future. Points vary by model ranging from 100 points for a 1 Series up to 180 points per day for an X3.
Yes £40 per month gets you 700 points per year but this £40 will also include another service such as the ability to use all the public charging stations in the BMW Chargenow network and the charging cable required to do so. Alternatively £75 per month gets you the 700 points per year plus a full maintenance package for the car.
You can purchase blocks of additional points
10 points = £6
100 points = £54
500 points = £240
KTF said:
Out of interest, has anyone who has placed an order off the back of a test drive, also visited their local Renault emporium as well to compare it to the Zoe?
Nope, just a quick look at the stats put me off.1428kg
88hp
0-60 in 13.5s
I can see how it makes sense for a lot of people but most of us in here view weight/power/speed as being pretty important when making the decision. The i3 isn't the fastest thing out there but it's a lot faster than the Zoe.
mids said:
Nope, just a quick look at the stats put me off.
1428kg
88hp
0-60 in 13.5s
I can see how it makes sense for a lot of people but most of us in here view weight/power/speed as being pretty important when making the decision. The i3 isn't the fastest thing out there but it's a lot faster than the Zoe.
^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS1428kg
88hp
0-60 in 13.5s
I can see how it makes sense for a lot of people but most of us in here view weight/power/speed as being pretty important when making the decision. The i3 isn't the fastest thing out there but it's a lot faster than the Zoe.
gavmobile said:
mids said:
Thanks JP78, sounds like you're in the know.
yes, thanks JP78 that's helpfulI don't know what the value of the charging points is to others but probably quite small to me so that makes £40 a month for not quite 4 days a year in a (presumably base-spec) X3 look pretty expensive vs car hire. Still might go and have a drive and see what sort of shuffling can be done with my current F31
Then once you have used your 700 point allocation and are buying further points then an X3 for 4 days would only cost you £456 with the BMW scheme so again a significant saving against my relatively unscientific Google search. I am not sure that the X3 would be base spec either as these cars are usually specified with an eye to resale so will probably have a sensible amount of options.
So like many things this scheme will not suit everyone but does work for some and is competitive for like for like products
andywaterfall said:
April? Wow, that's quite a way away! It seems to back up the reports saying they're going down well & BMW are having to bump up production, although I've also read BMWGB have only got 200 orders, which doesn't seem right.
Are you keeping the Jag?
I'm afraid the XFR will go - switching from 16 mpg to 'infinite' mpg is part of the rationale of buying the i3. I am certainly going to keep enjoying hearing that V8 for the next 5 months however!Are you keeping the Jag?
Following on from this and other recent comments here - I think that being a petrolhead is not just about driving the fastest / noisiest / best handling car you can find, but more a fascination in all things four wheeled. Whilst I loved driving my Porsches, Maserati and Caterhams etc, I also took delight in importing one of the first Smart cars in the country. The i3 is definitely in this bracket - an intriguing solution to local transport. It won't stop me saving up for a noisy petrol powered weekend toy, but it is an awful lot more interesting (and cheaper) doing the daily commute in an i3 rather than say a 120d.
toys said:
I'm afraid the XFR will go - switching from 16 mpg to 'infinite' mpg is part of the rationale of buying the i3. I am certainly going to keep enjoying hearing that V8 for the next 5 months however!
Following on from this and other recent comments here - I think that being a petrolhead is not just about driving the fastest / noisiest / best handling car you can find, but more a fascination in all things four wheeled. Whilst I loved driving my Porsches, Maserati and Caterhams etc, I also took delight in importing one of the first Smart cars in the country. The i3 is definitely in this bracket - an intriguing solution to local transport. It won't stop me saving up for a noisy petrol powered weekend toy, but it is an awful lot more interesting (and cheaper) doing the daily commute in an i3 rather than say a 120d.
Good post, agree with you. Following on from this and other recent comments here - I think that being a petrolhead is not just about driving the fastest / noisiest / best handling car you can find, but more a fascination in all things four wheeled. Whilst I loved driving my Porsches, Maserati and Caterhams etc, I also took delight in importing one of the first Smart cars in the country. The i3 is definitely in this bracket - an intriguing solution to local transport. It won't stop me saving up for a noisy petrol powered weekend toy, but it is an awful lot more interesting (and cheaper) doing the daily commute in an i3 rather than say a 120d.
Just had a go in an i3 this afternoon.
Interesting, loved the tech, felt genuinely modern, loved the interior with new materials.
Very refined, not as quiet as I expected, obviously no engine noise but normal amounts of road and wind noise.
Quick enough, but you do tend to keep looking at the range readout!!
Probably that would wear off though.
Tight in the back and the boot is tiny!
Great city car, not so sure for general use.
Interesting, loved the tech, felt genuinely modern, loved the interior with new materials.
Very refined, not as quiet as I expected, obviously no engine noise but normal amounts of road and wind noise.
Quick enough, but you do tend to keep looking at the range readout!!
Probably that would wear off though.
Tight in the back and the boot is tiny!
Great city car, not so sure for general use.
KTF said:
Out of interest, has anyone who has placed an order off the back of a test drive, also visited their local Renault emporium as well to compare it to the Zoe?
I drove the Zoe as a benchmark to the I3, it is definitely a nice car and amazing value compared to the BMW. I wouldn't enjoy the drive half as much though as it felt much more like a normal clio. It feels slower than the I3 and you can really feel the battery weight in the corners, the re-gen braking is also done through the brakes so you can't drive in the same fashion as the I3 using only the throttle peddle. If I was looking to purely save money by going electric this would be tempting, the I3 gives good performance without the increased associated fuel costs. The Zoe can also rapid charge at 43kw over A/C which is a great feature, I'm not sure why the I3 can't do this?
.I test drove an i3 at BMW Park Lane this morning. Wow. Loved it!
Its deceptively quick! It definitely feels quicker than the 0-60 time suggests once you're above 20mph+.
The Salesman warned me about the off-throttle regenerative brake-feel - its quite strong, so-much-so that the i3 puts the brake lights on when you go off-throttle. It took a couple of minutes to get used to and then I didn't really think about it.
It really is a perfect car for me as I have off-street parking and rarely leave London with the car. However with a wife and 1 x child its just a BIT too small for us with a pram etc and all that jazz. I'll need to think about it further as to whether to chop the Mini Countryman in for one.
The salesman said they'd sold several times more then they thought they would and I believe him.
Overall 9.5/10 from me.
Its deceptively quick! It definitely feels quicker than the 0-60 time suggests once you're above 20mph+.
The Salesman warned me about the off-throttle regenerative brake-feel - its quite strong, so-much-so that the i3 puts the brake lights on when you go off-throttle. It took a couple of minutes to get used to and then I didn't really think about it.
It really is a perfect car for me as I have off-street parking and rarely leave London with the car. However with a wife and 1 x child its just a BIT too small for us with a pram etc and all that jazz. I'll need to think about it further as to whether to chop the Mini Countryman in for one.
The salesman said they'd sold several times more then they thought they would and I believe him.
Overall 9.5/10 from me.
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