RE: Happy Tenth Anniversary, Racing Puma
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Over priced? are you insane? this is Fords best effort at a true street legal rally car, developed by Ford Rallye Sport as a one off and you have the cheek to Diss it? you must be too young to appreciate real quality in a a sports/ rally car and to know what Ford rallye Sport put in to this car,. Its ok worshipping the Scooby or EVO but they are not in the same class and Ford didnt make any money from this car as it was a Rally puma derivative and so was designed upon the current rally regulations...
I do like the FRP and have hankered after one for ages after owning a standard 1.7 when they first came out.
But, it's stretching a point calling it a road going rally car. As far as I remember, the Puma rally cars had Escort cosworth running gear and a turbocharged engine.
I don't think any FRPs were converted to rally cars, not without the same modifications a road going Impreza would have to have - seam welded shell, strengthened suspension mounting points, modified suspension etc.
Although of course I stand to be corrected!
Steve
But, it's stretching a point calling it a road going rally car. As far as I remember, the Puma rally cars had Escort cosworth running gear and a turbocharged engine.
I don't think any FRPs were converted to rally cars, not without the same modifications a road going Impreza would have to have - seam welded shell, strengthened suspension mounting points, modified suspension etc.
Although of course I stand to be corrected!
Steve
Ford Puma Rally car ran under S1600 Regs - No Escort Cosworth running gear or turbo charged motors ever sat in a rally Puma.
The Puma's seen on the stages all ran a de-sroked version of the 1700 - 1596cc hence complying with the sub-1600 category limit. (There was a 1.4 version to).
S1600 was the forerunner to Junior WRC.
The Puma's seen on the stages all ran a de-sroked version of the 1700 - 1596cc hence complying with the sub-1600 category limit. (There was a 1.4 version to).
S1600 was the forerunner to Junior WRC.
Dave_ST220 said:
FRPv52 said:
Over priced? are you insane? this is Fords best effort at a true street legal rally car...
Yeah, Ok.
Whilst I appreciate Mr 52 loves his car, he does appear somewhat blinded.
I do love reading about the FRP, as having had the appropriate connections back in my Ford days, the rumours / stories that go around are fantastic.
FRPv52 said:
Over priced? are you insane? this is Fords best effort at a true street legal rally car, developed by Ford Rallye Sport as a one off and you have the cheek to Diss it? you must be too young to appreciate real quality in a a sports/ rally car and to know what Ford rallye Sport put in to this car,. Its ok worshipping the Scooby or EVO but they are not in the same class and Ford didnt make any money from this car as it was a Rally puma derivative and so was designed upon the current rally regulations...
Oh dear. I was actually respecting your opinions until you came up with this drivel!N88 said:
FRPv52 said:
Over priced? are you insane? this is Fords best effort at a true street legal rally car, developed by Ford Rallye Sport as a one off and you have the cheek to Diss it? you must be too young to appreciate real quality in a a sports/ rally car and to know what Ford rallye Sport put in to this car,. Its ok worshipping the Scooby or EVO but they are not in the same class and Ford didnt make any money from this car as it was a Rally puma derivative and so was designed upon the current rally regulations...
Oh dear. I was actually respecting your opinions until you came up with this drivel!Bespoke suspension by Eibach, 45mm wider track? Brakes that could stop a challenger tank.
Higher cornering speed than a mk1 FRS. A quicker lap time than it's rivals DC2,172,Subaru. Yet it had a power deficit 40, 50, 80 bhp. Quicker ring time than a mk1 FRS. deficit of 70bhp.
It really is that good at cornering. You can't argue with facts.
To be honest I couldn't car about pub figures and what car is better than which.
It's a car with a fantastic history and is part of motoring history. I feel privileged to own it.
I actually drive it slower than any other car i've owned, it's just such an experience to drive, I don't doubt cars costing 10 times as much would make you feel like the FRP does.
It evokes something inside that makes you smile and appreciate just exactly what Ford created.
There are £100,000 cars that won't turn heads as much as the FRP does.
LongLiveTazio said:
I seem to remember Colin McRae saying, "I love my FRP more than my 22B. In fact, take the 22B away, I don't want it anymore. This pure-bred rally specimen is all I could ever need."
Good enough for you?Called me blinded if you wish but only after you have driven one.
Edited by Frp' on Friday 27th August 12:10
Frp' said:
N88 said:
FRPv52 said:
Over priced? are you insane? this is Fords best effort at a true street legal rally car, developed by Ford Rallye Sport as a one off and you have the cheek to Diss it? you must be too young to appreciate real quality in a a sports/ rally car and to know what Ford rallye Sport put in to this car,. Its ok worshipping the Scooby or EVO but they are not in the same class and Ford didnt make any money from this car as it was a Rally puma derivative and so was designed upon the current rally regulations...
Oh dear. I was actually respecting your opinions until you came up with this drivel!Bespoke suspension by Eibach, 45mm wider track? Brakes that could stop a challenger tank.
Higher cornering speed than a mk1 FRS. A quicker lap time than it's rivals DC2,172,Subaru. Yet it had a power deficit 40, 50, 80 bhp. Quicker ring time than a mk1 FRS. deficit of 70bhp.
It really is that good at cornering. You can't argue with facts.
To be honest I couldn't car about pub figures and what car is better than which.
It's a car with a fantastic history and is part of motoring history. I feel privileged to own it.
I actually drive it slower than any other car i've owned, it's just such an experience to drive, I don't doubt cars costing 10 times as much would make you feel like the FRP does.
It evokes something inside that makes you smile and appreciate just exactly what Ford created.
There are £100,000 cars that won't turn heads as much as the FRP does.
LongLiveTazio said:
I seem to remember Colin McRae saying, "I love my FRP more than my 22B. In fact, take the 22B away, I don't want it anymore. This pure-bred rally specimen is all I could ever need."
Good enough for you?FWDRacer said:
minichamps11 said:
Twincam16 said:
Beautiful things, that Ian Callum styling (just after he'd done the DB7) is full of Aston Martin cues too - look at the shape of the grille, the curve of the rear 3/4 window and the 'teardrop' lights. If Aston Martin had brought out the AMV8 Vantage in the early '90s, it'd have looked like that.
Ian Callum had nothing to do with the styling of the Ford Puma or Racing Puma.Matt_N said:
Frp' said:
N88 said:
FRPv52 said:
Over priced? are you insane? this is Fords best effort at a true street legal rally car, developed by Ford Rallye Sport as a one off and you have the cheek to Diss it? you must be too young to appreciate real quality in a a sports/ rally car and to know what Ford rallye Sport put in to this car,. Its ok worshipping the Scooby or EVO but they are not in the same class and Ford didnt make any money from this car as it was a Rally puma derivative and so was designed upon the current rally regulations...
Oh dear. I was actually respecting your opinions until you came up with this drivel!Bespoke suspension by Eibach, 45mm wider track? Brakes that could stop a challenger tank.
Higher cornering speed than a mk1 FRS. A quicker lap time than it's rivals DC2,172,Subaru. Yet it had a power deficit 40, 50, 80 bhp. Quicker ring time than a mk1 FRS. deficit of 70bhp.
It really is that good at cornering. You can't argue with facts.
To be honest I couldn't car about pub figures and what car is better than which.
It's a car with a fantastic history and is part of motoring history. I feel privileged to own it.
I actually drive it slower than any other car i've owned, it's just such an experience to drive, I don't doubt cars costing 10 times as much would make you feel like the FRP does.
It evokes something inside that makes you smile and appreciate just exactly what Ford created.
There are £100,000 cars that won't turn heads as much as the FRP does.
LongLiveTazio said:
I seem to remember Colin McRae saying, "I love my FRP more than my 22B. In fact, take the 22B away, I don't want it anymore. This pure-bred rally specimen is all I could ever need."
Good enough for you?
Frp' said:
I'm probably the least biased car buyer I know.
I was under the impression PH was full of knowledgeable people.
Seems most are not.
I'm guessing you missed Colin Mcrae's quote? Better than a 22b?
Is that actually a real quote or was the poster taking the piss out of you? Either way the 22B is in another league in every single critera measurable.I was under the impression PH was full of knowledgeable people.
Seems most are not.
I'm guessing you missed Colin Mcrae's quote? Better than a 22b?
I have and can't find it, but I have heard that he said it was a 'fun' car. That I appreciate but its not in anyway in 'a different class' to a scooby or evo. 22B's and Tommi Mak Evos are far closer to road going rally cars that the little puma ever was - AWD, turbo charged, 280bhp, superior suspension and so on.
Edited by superman84 on Friday 27th August 13:56
Edited by superman84 on Friday 27th August 14:45
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