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Pints

18,444 posts

196 months

Thursday 2nd June 2011
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FatBoy has it spot on. I snapped a cheap spanner on the weekend doing some DIY around the house. I've never had that happen to me with a decent tool.

LuS1fer

41,168 posts

247 months

Thursday 2nd June 2011
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Quality is important as anyone who has rounded nuts using a cheap spanner willl know but the halfords pro range has served me very well and I still use a socket set I had bought for me in the 80s which grip the side of the but and never had a failure. So there comes a point at which quality is optimum in relation to price and longevity though even something cheap may last. My Halfords jack is at least 15 years old and been used for everything.

EDLT

15,421 posts

208 months

Thursday 2nd June 2011
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Fatboy said:
EDLT said:
buzzer said:
McSam said:
Without wanting to sound a bit of a tt, you can usually tell the quality of a tool by the feel of it. If it feels like it weighs the right amount (a lot, usually), looks right, ratchets have a good action, etc etc, then generally it is good.
but if the fakers make the spanner or ratchet out of steel, to the same design, they are going to feel the same.... I would like to bet there is a load of fake Snap-on tools out there that people are using that look, feel the same as the real thing!

My mate has a fake Omega Speedmaster, and to be quite honest you simply cant tell the difference between that and my real one... His was £100, mine was £1700. you REALLY cant tell the difference by looking at them, I think the only way is to take the back off and look at the movement.
You have to wonder what you are paying for if someone can make something that looks the same and works the same for half the price or less (I'm talking about tools here, not watches which are a little different).

Even my Clarke hammer was loads cheaper than a snap-on one, and both are little more than a lump of steel on a stick.
Generally (in my experience) the cheaper tools tend to be made of lower quality metal, so they either tend to be weaker, or give notchier ratchets etc.

Admittedly I've not compared snap-on directly with Halfords value range, but there is a noticeable increase in qaulity, longevity and comfort bewteen Halfords value and Pro Series...
Well the really cheap stuff will be rubbish, but the tools I use at work are a mixture of brands and it has never been the tool's fault when I round off a bolt head wink

You won't be able to hang a toolbox off my Signet ratchet like they do in the snap-on adverts, but why would you? It won't cost a couple of day's pay to replace it if it is lost/stolen, either. Which is important when in my all the time I've been a mechanic I've lost far more tools than I've broken.

MarvinManUK

764 posts

189 months

Thursday 2nd June 2011
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My god, there's a fair few bids on it as well.

Impressive stuff.

BenMk3

245 posts

166 months

Thursday 2nd June 2011
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The lockup my friend keeps his car in in Coventry was broken into not too long ago, apparently the guys made off with "between 50 and 100 grand's worth of tools" from a Snap-On tools van.

Leamington Spa isn't far at all

magpie215

4,446 posts

191 months

Thursday 2nd June 2011
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EDLT said:
You have to wonder what you are paying for
My snap on pozi drive screwdriver failed today...tomorrow the Snap on man will come to my workplace and replace it on the spot.

lance1a

1,337 posts

200 months

Thursday 2nd June 2011
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BenMk3 said:
The lockup my friend keeps his car in in Coventry was broken into not too long ago, apparently the guys made off with "between 50 and 100 grand's worth of tools" from a Snap-On tools van.

Leamington Spa isn't far at all
Is this for real? Is your mate aware of the auction?

BenMk3

245 posts

166 months

Friday 3rd June 2011
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http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-new...

Here's the link to the story, Curtis is my mate. Sent him the link last night and I said to forward it to the police, but he said he needed to find his crime number first.

"They also stole £50,000 worth of tools from a nearby Mercedes van which belonged to global company Snap-On"


Oh and while I'm here, this is worth reading, this is when he was first in the paper for making his Fiesta a blackboard for Cancer Research, and here's a photo from Fiesta in the Park 2011



Edited by BenMk3 on Friday 3rd June 15:13

Fatboy

7,993 posts

274 months

Friday 3rd June 2011
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EDLT said:
Well the really cheap stuff will be rubbish, but the tools I use at work are a mixture of brands and it has never been the tool's fault when I round off a bolt head wink

You won't be able to hang a toolbox off my Signet ratchet like they do in the snap-on adverts, but why would you? It won't cost a couple of day's pay to replace it if it is lost/stolen, either. Which is important when in my all the time I've been a mechanic I've lost far more tools than I've broken.
There have been occasions where I have broken craftsman ratchets and the Halfords stuff has stood up to the abuse better (a certain piefully built individual putting his full weight on it in a futile attempt to release a corroded on bolt) - but I do agree with you that as long as you've not bought rubbish, ay decent brand should do reasonably well...


BDR529

3,560 posts

176 months

Friday 3rd June 2011
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BenMk3 said:
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-new...

Here's the link to the story, Curtis is my mate. Sent him the link last night and I said to forward it to the police, but he said he needed to find his crime number first.

"They also stole £50,000 worth of tools from a nearby Mercedes van which belonged to global company Snap-On"




Edited by BenMk3 on Friday 3rd June 15:13
Hmmm.. interesting scratchchin



mrmr96

13,736 posts

206 months

Friday 3rd June 2011
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Interesting...
BenMk3 said:
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-new...

"They also stole £50,000 worth of tools from a nearby Mercedes van which belonged to global company Snap-On"
Do you think that that theft may be related to this sale? Entirely plausible that even *if it were* the same tools the ebay seller could have bought them in good faith. Indeed with so much positive feedback it would seem daft to try to sell them via ebay if you knew they were stolen. I hope they are not, else an innocent part could well end up a long way out of pocket.

BenMk3, have you told your mate or the police about the newspaper story and the auction? (or indeed ebay?) I'm sure the police would be able to ask the right people the right questions to ensure the right result, whatever that might be.

rigga

8,732 posts

203 months

Friday 3rd June 2011
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As an ex snap on user,i fail to see the point of needing to own this much kit,as previously said its worth more selling as little kits rather than as a complete job lot,many things are duplicated which really does not happen in a normal tool kit,certainly not to the extent that this kit has ... maybe wrong but looks fishy to me

BenMk3

245 posts

166 months

Saturday 4th June 2011
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mrmr96 said:
Do you think that that theft may be related to this sale? Entirely plausible that even *if it were* the same tools the ebay seller could have bought them in good faith. Indeed with so much positive feedback it would seem daft to try to sell them via ebay if you knew they were stolen. I hope they are not, else an innocent part could well end up a long way out of pocket.

BenMk3, have you told your mate or the police about the newspaper story and the auction? (or indeed ebay?) I'm sure the police would be able to ask the right people the right questions to ensure the right result, whatever that might be.
I did mention to him. He said he was going to follow it up but he needs his crime number, that said I haven't spoke to him to him today so he could've reported it

rigga

8,732 posts

203 months

Saturday 4th June 2011
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£50 short of 40k !!

Either some one got a good deal or someone made a killing.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

206 months

Saturday 4th June 2011
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rigga said:
£50 short of 40k !!

Either some one got a good deal or someone made a killing.
Maffs fail. £33,950 is £50 short of £34k.

Hitler Hadrump

1,750 posts

175 months

Saturday 4th June 2011
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If the buyer pays cash on collection his money will take up as much space as his tools did.

EDLT

15,421 posts

208 months

Saturday 4th June 2011
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Hitler Hadrump said:
If the buyer pays cash on collection his money will take up as much space as his tools did.
It'd be a stack of £50 notes just under 77mm high. (ish)

rigga

8,732 posts

203 months

Saturday 4th June 2011
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mrmr96 said:
rigga said:
£50 short of 40k !!

Either some one got a good deal or someone made a killing.
Maffs fail. £33,950 is £50 short of £34k.
Of course your right .... its sat night after all.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

206 months

Saturday 4th June 2011
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rigga said:
mrmr96 said:
rigga said:
£50 short of 40k !!

Either some one got a good deal or someone made a killing.
Maffs fail. £33,950 is £50 short of £34k.
Of course your right .... its sat night after all.
I'll let you off.

Either way, it's still a blimming lot of money. I wonder what the winning bidder will do with them all. Lots of ideas, keep/sell/share/break/frame on the wall, but I wonder what will _actually_ happen to them all.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

257 months

Saturday 4th June 2011
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He'll need a skip to collect that lot...