RE: BMW 4 Series Gran Coupe: Review
Discussion
Rickpw1 said:
Too much choice ... are we meant to feel more individual when we pull up next to another BMW?
It's about brand image not exclusivity. Think of Apple.BMW will sell as many cars as they can in as many sectors as possible as long as they don't dilute the brand and the profits keep rolling in. Why wouldn't they?
derin100 said:
Agree!
I'm totally lost now.
Can anyone actually give me a complete rundown list of which cars/models BMW actually make these days, please?
They makeI'm totally lost now.
Can anyone actually give me a complete rundown list of which cars/models BMW actually make these days, please?
The ugly
The really ugly
The what the fk
The what the fk +
The wannabe gangsta but can't afford it 4x4
The drop your kids of at school and need to ram the curb 4x4
The want to be in the bigger heavier car when they cause an accident 4x4
Small diesels
Small petrols
Big V12 model with some engines they have left over
Probably all be fwd by now if they didn't offer most as 4x4 in other countries.
ogrimwood said:
The BMW 28i engine is a really poor engine, despite the alleged 0-62 time it both sounds gruff and feels weak. Why you'd pick the 28i over lets say the 25d or for a little bit more the famous 30i, I don't know. The 25d in 1/2 Series spec is a pocket rocket with a great mix of performance and economy.
It is no straight six but the 20/28i engines are a lot smoother and more refined than the 20/25d engine (though I don't doubt the performance/economy combination is good for the diesels), they even rev well for a modern turbo engine! BlueMR2 said:
derin100 said:
Agree!
I'm totally lost now.
Can anyone actually give me a complete rundown list of which cars/models BMW actually make these days, please?
They makeI'm totally lost now.
Can anyone actually give me a complete rundown list of which cars/models BMW actually make these days, please?
The ugly
The really ugly
The what the fk
The what the fk +
The wannabe gangsta but cant afford it 4x4
The drop your kids of at school and need to ram the curb 4x4
The want to be in the bigger heavier car when they cause an accident 4x4
Small diesels
Small petrols
Big V12 model with some engines they have left over
Probably all be fwd by now if they idn't offer most as 4x4 in other countries.
kambites said:
alock said:
It's to score better on the official test. Manufacturers don't care about real-world MPG any more.
To be fair, manufacturers only don't care because customers don't care (probably mostly because they don't understand). Burnham said:
FFS BMW, just stop it. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. Enough's enough.
Yeah, the company are doing really poorly at the moment. I mean, they're in the business to make money and, clearly, they're doing too much which is so bad they're losing money. Oh, wait, no that's not right is it.
So, you don't like the idea of this and wonder "what's wrong with a 3 series?"
Newsflash.... Go and buy a 3 series... It's still available to buy. You just have something else to choose from. What a crying shame.
They're all the same, Audi,Merc etc. And guess what, they're all doing pretty well business-wise.
kambites said:
Debaser said:
kambites said:
Only in so far as it helps to sell cars; which at present is not very much (at least in the UK).
It's a huge issue in the UK. Manufacturers are putting a lot of effort into improving real world fuel economy.Hmm, I remain to be convinced. Whilst people constantly moan about modern cars not managing the efficiency that "the manufacturers' claim", I've never once heard a non-car person actually talk about it as a factor when buying a car - they still go out and buy the one that records the best figures on the NDEC cycle. A manufacturer would be mad to increase real-world economy at the expense of focussing on NDEC results, IMO.
kambites said:
Hmm, I remain to be convinced. Whilst people constantly moan about modern cars not managing the efficiency that "the manufacturers' claim", I've never once heard a non-car person actually talk about it as a factor when buying a car - they still go out and buy the one that records the best figures on the NDEC cycle. A manufacturer would be mad to increase real-world economy at the expense of focussing on NDEC results, IMO.
Thats why people chip cars, more power, better economy, as it should have been.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff