getting money out of a dealer
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PurpleMoonlight said:
dieseluser07 said:
If it had one fault then yeh buyers remorse but its got 4 within a month
Worn out items are not faults, they are part and parcel of running a car.probably not a future TVR owner
Speaking as a dealer, if it was me:
Turbo: Just worn and unless bellowing smoke out the back just a 100k car thing.
Brakes: Like tyres, pot luck whether they new/part worn/worn when you buy.
Radiator and Headgasket personally I'd take a look at. If the radiator was fine when purchased then maybe not but regards the headgasket unless the buyer had obviously abused the car I think most reasonable dealers would look into this. Even at this age/mileage I would consider a headgasket a major fault in first month.
The only caveat is that most VAG cars with this engine have a coolant level sensor in the expansion tank - if it had this and owner drove whilst warning light was beeping and flashing I might not be so accomodating.
To answer the OP's other question: Your first port of call must always be who you bought it from. Do not let anyone else work on the car or you negate all your rights. Getting 3rd parties involved always makes things worse. You stand a much better chance of getting a dealer to fix something than "get money out of them".
Turbo: Just worn and unless bellowing smoke out the back just a 100k car thing.
Brakes: Like tyres, pot luck whether they new/part worn/worn when you buy.
Radiator and Headgasket personally I'd take a look at. If the radiator was fine when purchased then maybe not but regards the headgasket unless the buyer had obviously abused the car I think most reasonable dealers would look into this. Even at this age/mileage I would consider a headgasket a major fault in first month.
The only caveat is that most VAG cars with this engine have a coolant level sensor in the expansion tank - if it had this and owner drove whilst warning light was beeping and flashing I might not be so accomodating.
To answer the OP's other question: Your first port of call must always be who you bought it from. Do not let anyone else work on the car or you negate all your rights. Getting 3rd parties involved always makes things worse. You stand a much better chance of getting a dealer to fix something than "get money out of them".
PHmember said:
I need a bigger font for this really, but I'll give it a go anyway...
NINETY FIVE THOUSAND MILES!!!!!!!
There, that's your problem.
Rubbish - as others have already pointed out there's no reason why cars shouldn't do several hundred K miles. We have a stupid obsession about mileage in the UK - a colleague in Holland (who regularly drives to other European countries) was proudly telling us about his "new" car - turns out it's done 160,000kms - 100K miles. He argued that 100K mile is new. The one he sold was nudging 400,000kms.NINETY FIVE THOUSAND MILES!!!!!!!
There, that's your problem.
Sheepshanks said:
PHmember said:
I need a bigger font for this really, but I'll give it a go anyway...
NINETY FIVE THOUSAND MILES!!!!!!!
There, that's your problem.
Rubbish - as others have already pointed out there's no reason why cars shouldn't do several hundred K miles. We have a stupid obsession about mileage in the UK - a colleague in Holland (who regularly drives to other European countries) was proudly telling us about his "new" car - turns out it's done 160,000kms - 100K miles. He argued that 100K mile is new. The one he sold was nudging 400,000kms.NINETY FIVE THOUSAND MILES!!!!!!!
There, that's your problem.
TA14 said:
No, PHm is correct. Whilst the car may do many more miles before a major failure things do wear out. Look at the OP's list - there are no surprises. Whilst your friend's car may have done 1/4 million miles I doubt that he never had to relace any brake pads, etc.
Of course not, but that's a consumable. It's also the only specific thing on the OPs list, the others are all very vague.confused_buyer said:
To answer the OP's other question: Your first port of call must always be who you bought it from. Do not let anyone else work on the car or you negate all your rights. Getting 3rd parties involved always makes things worse. You stand a much better chance of getting a dealer to fix something than "get money out of them".
This is all good advice imo. Sheepshanks said:
TA14 said:
No, PHm is correct. Whilst the car may do many more miles before a major failure things do wear out. Look at the OP's list - there are no surprises. Whilst your friend's car may have done 1/4 million miles I doubt that he never had to relace any brake pads, etc.
Of course not, but that's a consumable. It's also the only specific thing on the OPs list, the others are all very vague.As far as I can gather we don't even know whether new pads are needed - have they worn unevenly? Are they worn out? Or are they just 20% worn? I've seen them frequently changed in all three scenarios.
TA14 said:
The point is not whether a 95K car can go on to do two or three times that mileage but whether you should expect some wear and tear.
Of course - but I was responding to a post which seems to suggest that the problem is the car has done 95K miles, and it's phrased in such a way as to suggest that 95K miles is end-of-life for a car.The issues the OP apparently has could have happened at 25K miles.
Sheepshanks said:
The issues the OP apparently has could have happened at 25K miles.
Brake pads - absolutely.Turbo - no, that's entirely a mileage/usage thing.
Rad - depends on what's caused it to go. If it's corrosion, then it's an age thing. If it's stone damage, it could have happened on the way out of the showroom.
HG - they don't "just go". Things make them go. Usually low coolant and/or overheating.
MG CHRIS said:
You would get fk all help from the dealer im afraid its a car that's done 100,000 miles which is pretty much the life of that car the average these days is around 8-10 years before being scrapped off and yours is closer to that than being new..
My new (to me) car is a 56 plate (built early 07) ford galaxy 2.0 tdci with 63k miles on it. According to that logic it's nearly scrap. The truth is, apart from the dodgy ac condenser, it looks, drives and even smells like a new car. Obviously the dmf, clutch, injectors and fuel pump will now explode!
:-)
PHmember said:
I didn't suggest the car was at the end of it's life. I was pointing out the fact that the OP seems to think that '95000 miles' & the word 'immaculate' somehow go together. Which they never will, with any car.
I regularly used to hand back company cars with 90-120K miles on them and they were immaculate, bar a few stone-chips on the front.PHmember said:
Really, you can get 120k on a car with NO wear & tear whatsoever?
I don't think people are saying that. Certainly brake pads are consumables. On a well-maintained car a turbo should last more than 95000 miles.
Radiator (and therefore maybe head gasket) at 95000 seems to be a bit early. While I check the oil on my cars every time I use them, I rarely check coolant levels, and (as far as I know) my cars don't have a warning light for coolant, so I can understand the OP being caught out (hopefully they didn't drive further with the light on).
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