RE: The ?30K M5: You Know You Want To

RE: The ?30K M5: You Know You Want To

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CS Garth

2,860 posts

107 months

Friday 13th May 2016
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is1 said:
tomic said:
According to the e30zone forum, Birmingham and anywhere around the Chesham area of Bucks are also places you should avoid like the plague if you're buying a BMW.
To be fair, based on that logic, you might as well add London, Manchester, Bristol, Leicester, Nottingham, Sheffield (and all the towns up that way), Glasgow etc. ;-)
Or just use some common sense, either buy only from a reputable trader or if a particular car takes your fancy, call or email the seller and decide if you want to deal with them.
I exclusively source all my vehicles from a 3 square mile area south west of Shepton Mallet to avoid precisely this type of issue.

TheAngryDog

12,418 posts

211 months

Friday 13th May 2016
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Why does the new M5 engine lack character? Surely it has more character than the engine in my E39?

kainedog

361 posts

176 months

Friday 13th May 2016
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The e60 5 series v10 made the car for me and they are a bargain ( I'd prefer the estate)the e39 m5 is the one I'd want . My dad had e21's and 30,s when I was growing up and I went on to own a couple of 325 sports but recently I purchased a e39 touring for the family barge and I LOVE the way the instrument cluster and dash lay out looks almost the same 20 years later, not driven an e60 but I guess I it's very different , the new m5 just does not look special enough for me .

kainedog

361 posts

176 months

Friday 13th May 2016
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anonymous said:
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If it was registered in Rotherham for sure

sealtt

3,091 posts

160 months

Friday 13th May 2016
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ELothian said:
Completely agree - I looked at an M6 and the 650i (not much in the price), and felt the 650i was much more useable. It also felt like it wanted to shred your licence but not go so fast that you end up in prison!!

The fuel tank was just large enough for the engine's needs which it isn't in the M6, and the 650i engine suits the character of the car much better IMHO.

I wish I'd kept it..........
That's not a bad call, I think the BMW cruisers - 5, 6 & 7 series - all suit big petrol engines best, however I think the non-M versions are the ones to go for. They have a very different character to the M versions, and the non M-versions (the 650i, etc) I think are actually a better overall package and as you say, suit the character of the cars better - even if they are not the options that us PHers might instinctively go for.

jonah35

3,940 posts

159 months

Friday 13th May 2016
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that dealer is reputable and has some lovely cars. Huracans, aventadors, slrs, phantoms, mclarens etc.

I know its often hard for professionals to accept that northern types can do well but there are some succesful people outside of the m25 you know smile


Vincefox

20,566 posts

174 months

Saturday 14th May 2016
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Agree about the gt86 comment in the article. I think once they drop below a certain price they'll become legendary.

Patrick Bateman

12,217 posts

176 months

Saturday 14th May 2016
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Chr1sch said:
I for one love the latest generation one, the V10 whilst clearly the engine is epic, has equally epic bork factor with gearboxes and bottom ends costing as much as an entire car!

The e39 whilst great is just too old/dated for anything other than a weekend car imo, whilst this looks great, has loads of room and luxury and still goes like the starship enterprise....

My only fear would be putting £30k into a 65k mile M5 is a recipe for at least 50% depreciation in the next 3 years?
Genuinely curious as to why you think that?

Apart from the latest bluetooth connectivity/sat nav, which could be easily retrofitted if desired, what doesn't it have that's a requirement for a daily?

Patrick Bateman

12,217 posts

176 months

Saturday 14th May 2016
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TheAngryDog said:
Why does the new M5 engine lack character? Surely it has more character than the engine in my E39?
More powerful doesn't necessarily mean more character.

ELothian

61 posts

104 months

Saturday 14th May 2016
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sealtt said:
ELothian said:
Completely agree - I looked at an M6 and the 650i (not much in the price), and felt the 650i was much more useable. It also felt like it wanted to shred your licence but not go so fast that you end up in prison!!

The fuel tank was just large enough for the engine's needs which it isn't in the M6, and the 650i engine suits the character of the car much better IMHO.

I wish I'd kept it..........
That's not a bad call, I think the BMW cruisers - 5, 6 & 7 series - all suit big petrol engines best, however I think the non-M versions are the ones to go for. They have a very different character to the M versions, and the non M-versions (the 650i, etc) I think are actually a better overall package and as you say, suit the character of the cars better - even if they are not the options that us PHers might instinctively go for.
Yes it's a shame there isn't going to be a good supply of nice secondhand ones as no one buys new ones anymore!!

I had a couple of "petrolhead" friends who were "disappointed" I'd chosen the 650i but actually they both agreed pretty quickly! That engine had loads of torque and sounded fantastic - like a nascar at idle. Quite tempted to scurry off and buy another one but can't justify another car........or could I.....??!?!?

Am I the only one who's disappointed you can't get a new model 760i SWB?!?

kmack

157 posts

135 months

Saturday 14th May 2016
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As other have said, avoid this dealer!!!

See reviews. http://www.cardealerwatchdog.com/shaks-specialist-...

Vincefox

20,566 posts

174 months

Saturday 14th May 2016
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Patrick Bateman said:
TheAngryDog said:
Why does the new M5 engine lack character? Surely it has more character than the engine in my E39?
More powerful doesn't necessarily mean more character.
The e39 m5 is possibly my favourite v8 engine.

cerb4.5lee

31,009 posts

182 months

Sunday 15th May 2016
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thatguy11 said:
soad said:
article said:
Looks like a 520d,
Not really, quad pipes and side vents give the game away.
Only to a petrolhead's eye, to non-car folk this might as well be a diesel rep-mobile. To 90% of people out there, an M5 is just part of the traffic
I also see the M5 as just part of the traffic and I followed home a black one the other day that lives just around the corner from me, I do like the stealth factor of them but for something with 560bhp/high list price I think I would want it to look a little bit more exciting.

The exhaust tips were black as well so you had to be up close to see them so in many ways the M5 really is a very good Q car for sure.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

226 months

Sunday 15th May 2016
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Wills2 said:
court said:
I'd pay extra to not buy a car from West Yorkshire.
What a stupid statement.

Not at all.

The cheapest cars that come up on Autotrader are often from around the Bradford area, I have been to look twice, never again. Not just the stat of the cars, it is the 'don't give a st' attitude of the dealers too.

So it is a perfectly good statement, I too would happily pay more not to buy from there.



Edit: where in W. Yorks are you from Wills?



rtz62

3,387 posts

157 months

Sunday 15th May 2016
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Funny how certain cars, at some point in their lifecycle, seem to attract a certain sort of owner.
For instance, not far from here the RR Sport became the chariot of choice for known drug dealers.
This was after Dodge Ram V10's were the trinket of choice.
Perhaps I shouldn't be influenced, especially as I can't afford a current M5, but there's a girl attends the local gym who drives one.
She is what I would quaintly call 'council estate trash' (apologies to any traders who live on same), as common as muck, tattoos behind both ears and on bot wrists and ankles.
She holds court whilst on the treadmill with similar trashy females, all plodding at about 3mph whilst talking trash and playing on the latest 'must-have' mobile phone.
Guilty by association, this M5 is not for me.
And yet, the previous iteration seems to have owners who are knowledgeable and appreciate what they are driving, and may have saved hard to buy it.
Of course, I'm sure I will be shot down, but it is just an observation.....

sealtt

3,091 posts

160 months

Sunday 15th May 2016
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I'm sure you can find quite a few people you'd rather not be associated with driving any car! The M5 is no exception, but I really wouldn't let that put you off.

Oddball RS

1,757 posts

220 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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Went to look at a car there MANY moons ago, to see it being ragged about outside, didn't even get out of the car. Too many other dealerships.

sunnydude

907 posts

129 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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anonymous said:
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I used to hide a spare credit card behind there for emergencies, no joke!
If you open the door, you can pull off the side dashboard panel by hand (firmly but carefully). There are 3 push-clips and a wedge.

I've stopped doing that now though, mainly because the credit card fell deep into the dash area somewhere and I've got no idea where it is now

sunnydude

907 posts

129 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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sealtt said:
That's not a bad call, I think the BMW cruisers - 5, 6 & 7 series - all suit big petrol engines best, however I think the non-M versions are the ones to go for. They have a very different character to the M versions, and the non M-versions (the 650i, etc) I think are actually a better overall package and as you say, suit the character of the cars better - even if they are not the options that us PHers might instinctively go for.
If I found a 550i without M-Sport, but with a leather steering wheel, speaker upgrade and heads up display, I would have strongly considered this.
But they're sooooooo rare!

p1stonhead

25,743 posts

169 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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sunnydude said:
sealtt said:
That's not a bad call, I think the BMW cruisers - 5, 6 & 7 series - all suit big petrol engines best, however I think the non-M versions are the ones to go for. They have a very different character to the M versions, and the non M-versions (the 650i, etc) I think are actually a better overall package and as you say, suit the character of the cars better - even if they are not the options that us PHers might instinctively go for.
If I found a 550i without M-Sport, but with a leather steering wheel, speaker upgrade and heads up display, I would have strongly considered this.
But they're sooooooo rare!
This is good general rule IMO about all BMW's. If you are not getting a proper M, avoid M-Sports.

I recently got a 1 series coupe as a daily and holy god the M-sport was firm!

Got an SE in the end on 17's and its 100% better for daily driving.