Murder by screw
Discussion
sleep envy said:
Davi said:
sleep envy said:
no it's not, that looks nothing like a cavity wall fixing
I agree it is a plasterboard mounting screw, but you can get hollow ones!
it's a plaster board fixing, it's hollow in the sense it has a tapped hole into which a screw is fitted, IIRC there are holes set in the top of the outer thread, which would speedily deflate a tire.
Great bit of kit for mounting stuff to plaster board, you just screw it in using a driver, and you can hang stuff on it, much better than a plastic raw plug, and supersedes in dry wall the older expanding cavity wall fixing.
Great bit of kit for mounting stuff to plaster board, you just screw it in using a driver, and you can hang stuff on it, much better than a plastic raw plug, and supersedes in dry wall the older expanding cavity wall fixing.
Plotloss said:
sleep envy said:
Davi said:
sleep envy said:
no it's not, that looks nothing like a cavity wall fixing
I agree it is a plasterboard mounting screw, but you can get hollow ones!Edited by sleep envy on Tuesday 17th August 13:22
rudecherub said:
it's a plaster board fixing, it's hollow in the sense it has a tapped hole into which a screw is fitted, IIRC there are holes set in the top of the outer thread, which would speedily deflate a tire.
Great bit of kit for mounting stuff to plaster board, you just screw it in using a driver, and you can hang stuff on it, much better than a plastic raw plug, and supersedes in dry wall the older expanding cavity wall fixing.
like thisGreat bit of kit for mounting stuff to plaster board, you just screw it in using a driver, and you can hang stuff on it, much better than a plastic raw plug, and supersedes in dry wall the older expanding cavity wall fixing.
http://www.diytools.co.uk/diy/Main/sp-2-2393-12438...
Edited by y2blade on Tuesday 17th August 13:20
sleep envy said:
Davi said:
sleep envy said:
no it's not, that looks nothing like a cavity wall fixing
I agree it is a plasterboard mounting screw, but you can get hollow ones!It does indeed have holes in it.
You've already been shown them in a pic on this thread.
You were wrong, suck it up.
tegwin said:
Copied thios from another forum..... I dont care what the drivers were up to, someone taking the law into their own hands is totally unacceptable...
I suspect there may be more to the story than meets the eye, but still very very scary!
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If there is anybody here that was at Royal Albert way on saturday night you'll probably know or have an idea what happened.
I got there as the road was closed but a couple of people I know were there as it happened and were putting the fire out and trying to help the injured people.
That was a saph cosworth
This is what happens when you street race, apparently he hit the wall, climbed the wall then slammed back into the road at 80mph
To add to this somebody, obviously somebody who doesn't like street racing, took matters into their own hands when they did this
Yes self tapping screws glued to the roads. This is ultimately what caused this horrific crash, the chap had pulled up at the curb side and one of these lodged in his tire, apparently they are hollow screws to let the tyre down like a stinger.
As he drove off it blew his tire out causing the crash
My mates helped tend to the guys but apparently one guy was DOA, one they helped had a broken pelvis and punctured lung and I've heard one got paralyzed from the neck down.
Take care next time you go to something like this.
I suspect there may be more to the story than meets the eye, but still very very scary!
[quote]
If there is anybody here that was at Royal Albert way on saturday night you'll probably know or have an idea what happened.
I got there as the road was closed but a couple of people I know were there as it happened and were putting the fire out and trying to help the injured people.
That was a saph cosworth
This is what happens when you street race, apparently he hit the wall, climbed the wall then slammed back into the road at 80mph
To add to this somebody, obviously somebody who doesn't like street racing, took matters into their own hands when they did this
Yes self tapping screws glued to the roads. This is ultimately what caused this horrific crash, the chap had pulled up at the curb side and one of these lodged in his tire, apparently they are hollow screws to let the tyre down like a stinger.
As he drove off it blew his tire out causing the crash
My mates helped tend to the guys but apparently one guy was DOA, one they helped had a broken pelvis and punctured lung and I've heard one got paralyzed from the neck down.
Take care next time you go to something like this.
Edited by tegwin on Tuesday 17th August 10:13
Bit of a bump, heh? Darwins theory of the survival of the fitest at work again. Methinks no seatbelts too, with a fatal and spinal injuries? The crash isn't that bad and the passenger compartment looks pretty much intact.
Pistonheads: Fixings matter!
kambites said:
It's a plasterboard mounting thingie and they are hollow. It's designed to a conventional screw screwed down the middle.
Whether the hollow cavity is open at the pointy end varies, but that one doesn't actually look like it is to me.
That elevates this into a very sadistic and well thought out crime.Whether the hollow cavity is open at the pointy end varies, but that one doesn't actually look like it is to me.
Edited by kambites on Tuesday 17th August 13:10
I would have bodged it with a knitting needle or something.
mrmr96 said:
davidjpowell said:
Meant with no ill feeling towards the dead and injured, but those are the risks that they took
That some moron will lay down spikes to puncture tyres is NOT an accepted risk in driving. (or indeed in street racing)kambites said:
mrmr96 said:
davidjpowell said:
Meant with no ill feeling towards the dead and injured, but those are the risks that they took
That some moron will lay down spikes to puncture tyres is NOT an accepted risk in driving. (or indeed in street racing)Trying to add a bit of balance here as I have seen this first hand locally to me, though thankfully without the consequences of this incident.
Firstly the road concerned is a known unofficial race track at night, especially weekends. It is very close to dense housing. Some people trying to sleep will not be able to do so with loud cars roaring around throughout the night. Some occupants will complain to the local Police and Council but find their pleas fall on deaf ears, no pun intended. Smaller group of locals decide to take matters into their own hands and contaminate road with objects that they believe will puncture tyres and discourage "racers" from returning.
Exactly the same thing has happened a few times at Lakeside Shopping Centre in the past 3 or 4 years. Locals complain to Police and Council, nothing happens, "racing" continues and B&Q sells a few more bags of tacks than usual one weekend. Consequence is that several "racers" cars receive punctures, damaged rims, bodywork damage etc, but to the best of my knowledge no physical injuries.
Roll forward 12 months and after a few confrontations betweens locals and "racers" the Police and Council finally act using the powers avaiable to them and create an exclusion zone of the roads around Lakeside. Anyone can be issued with a warning to leave the area with no return permitted within 24 hours. If you are silly enough to return your car can be impounded and possibly crushed - effectively an ASBO for motorists as it was detailed in the local press.
The bottom line here is that street racing is not sensible in any circumstances and in this specific case I expect a local resident took matters into their own hands without thinking about the consequences of a car having a blow out at 80+ mph.
My sympathies to the injured parties and their families but if you own a powerful car and want to push it to the limit get on a track day.
Firstly the road concerned is a known unofficial race track at night, especially weekends. It is very close to dense housing. Some people trying to sleep will not be able to do so with loud cars roaring around throughout the night. Some occupants will complain to the local Police and Council but find their pleas fall on deaf ears, no pun intended. Smaller group of locals decide to take matters into their own hands and contaminate road with objects that they believe will puncture tyres and discourage "racers" from returning.
Exactly the same thing has happened a few times at Lakeside Shopping Centre in the past 3 or 4 years. Locals complain to Police and Council, nothing happens, "racing" continues and B&Q sells a few more bags of tacks than usual one weekend. Consequence is that several "racers" cars receive punctures, damaged rims, bodywork damage etc, but to the best of my knowledge no physical injuries.
Roll forward 12 months and after a few confrontations betweens locals and "racers" the Police and Council finally act using the powers avaiable to them and create an exclusion zone of the roads around Lakeside. Anyone can be issued with a warning to leave the area with no return permitted within 24 hours. If you are silly enough to return your car can be impounded and possibly crushed - effectively an ASBO for motorists as it was detailed in the local press.
The bottom line here is that street racing is not sensible in any circumstances and in this specific case I expect a local resident took matters into their own hands without thinking about the consequences of a car having a blow out at 80+ mph.
My sympathies to the injured parties and their families but if you own a powerful car and want to push it to the limit get on a track day.
Munter said:
Yep. Where's the video of a police car (Omega?) having a rear blowout at speed on the motorway. Caused by a bit of debris picked up a little bit earlier. Police car got lucky and hit very little. It appears the Sierra was not so lucky.
But if the poster above is right and this is a 40 limit, it's rather different. I've had a complete blow-out at around 40mph on a big dual carriageway roundabout and I didn't even leave the lane I was in (although I ended up facing the wrong way down it), let alone do that to my car. Of course putting the screws there, if indeed that is what happened, was bloody stupid. But you can't lay the blame entirely at the feet of whoever did it. It sounds like it would be highly unlikely to cause a serious problem if the driver hadn't been being an idiot.
Edited by kambites on Tuesday 17th August 13:51
furtive said:
Buzz word said:
I tried to look at the road on google maps but cant because of flash at work. The road is depicted on the map as a dual carridge way 'A' road. If the crash was truely at 80 and late at night I'm not even sure I think that is too silly on the face of it either. I cant see the road properly though but if that is the case I don't think thats racing even, I bet comuters do that.
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