Best way to get a reliable1000 BHP?

Best way to get a reliable1000 BHP?

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Trommel

19,432 posts

266 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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There are lots of places doing what Nelson do who just haven't been as proactive with the internet self-promotion.

zakelwe

4,449 posts

205 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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GALLARDOGUY said:
Has anyone over here put one the Nelson Racing engines in an Ultima?
The heavy cars they put the normal engines in them seen only just be able to cope, the above would scare you senseless I would say.

Nelson racing do a nice 9.4 litre twin turbo which has a good linear power delivery at 10psi

http://www.nelsonracingengines.com/assets/images/p...

17psi is also not too bad

http://www.nelsonracingengines.com/assets/images/p...

3000 rpm 585bhp, 4000 rpm = 1000bhp. Hmm, might need to wear some shoes with thin soles.

Andy



Twincam16

27,646 posts

265 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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Dave200 said:
Twincam16 said:
Nissan Skylines will easily handle in excess of this with excessive tuning. They'll still undercut most exotica even when tuned too, and they'll be reliable.

Edited by Twincam16 on Sunday 2nd January 13:38
This is bks. Are internet forums the only place you do your "research"?
No, it was out of a book about performance cars, actually. Flagged up an R34 putting out a reliable 1200bhp.

Trommel

19,432 posts

266 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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Twincam16 said:
No, it was out of a book about performance cars, actually. Flagged up an R34 putting out a reliable 1200bhp.
As above, common sense suggests that the lower the specific output, the less stressed the engine. Saying that, it is doable but I'd say there are definitely easier and cheaper ways to reliably get there.

Most book and magazine features about tuned Japanese cars are poorly-researched rubbish. Also remember that Skylines are Nissan's Vauxhall Omega - they certainly aren't all GT-Rs.

mcbook

1,407 posts

182 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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I can't believe I've never seen that Nelson Racing Engines website before... absolutely fantastic!

1000 BHP seems to cost a very reasonable $36,000 in LSX form.

k-ink

9,070 posts

186 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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That's probably less than the parts alone for some Jap Turbo's - without the tuning and development hassles

Dave200

5,671 posts

227 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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Twincam16 said:
Dave200 said:
Twincam16 said:
Nissan Skylines will easily handle in excess of this with excessive tuning. They'll still undercut most exotica even when tuned too, and they'll be reliable.

Edited by Twincam16 on Sunday 2nd January 13:38
This is bks. Are internet forums the only place you do your "research"?
No, it was out of a book about performance cars, actually. Flagged up an R34 putting out a reliable 1200bhp.
Would you care to cite any source in particular?

pc.iow

1,879 posts

210 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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Dave200 said:
Twincam16 said:
Dave200 said:
Twincam16 said:
Nissan Skylines will easily handle in excess of this with excessive tuning. They'll still undercut most exotica even when tuned too, and they'll be reliable.

Edited by Twincam16 on Sunday 2nd January 13:38
This is bks. Are internet forums the only place you do your "research"?
No, it was out of a book about performance cars, actually. Flagged up an R34 putting out a reliable 1200bhp.
Would you care to cite any source in particular?
Max Power Christmas (ltd) Edition?

ManOpener

12,467 posts

176 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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pc.iow said:
Dave200 said:
Twincam16 said:
Dave200 said:
Twincam16 said:
Nissan Skylines will easily handle in excess of this with excessive tuning. They'll still undercut most exotica even when tuned too, and they'll be reliable.

Edited by Twincam16 on Sunday 2nd January 13:38
This is bks. Are internet forums the only place you do your "research"?
No, it was out of a book about performance cars, actually. Flagged up an R34 putting out a reliable 1200bhp.
Would you care to cite any source in particular?
Max Power Christmas (ltd) Edition?
I don't really consider that a viable source. Besides, a 1200BHP Skyline wouldn't be able to cope with daily usage, like 1000bhp+ LSx series engines can.
People have "easily" pushed 1200+bhp out of the old S38 BMW motors, but I wouldn't call them "reliable" at that kind of power. In the big HP game, there really is no replacement for displacement.

ZeeTacoe

5,444 posts

229 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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pc.iow said:
Dave200 said:
Twincam16 said:
Dave200 said:
Twincam16 said:
Nissan Skylines will easily handle in excess of this with excessive tuning. They'll still undercut most exotica even when tuned too, and they'll be reliable.

Edited by Twincam16 on Sunday 2nd January 13:38
This is bks. Are internet forums the only place you do your "research"?
No, it was out of a book about performance cars, actually. Flagged up an R34 putting out a reliable 1200bhp.
Would you care to cite any source in particular?
Max Power Christmas (ltd) Edition?
there was also that documentry. Too fast too furious I believe.

Trommel

19,432 posts

266 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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ManOpener said:
Besides, a 1200BHP Skyline wouldn't be able to cope with daily usage, like 1000bhp+ LSx series engines can
Disagree, you'll spend most of your time off boost in day-to-day driving in any case - you need a comparatively big turbo on a 2.6/2.8/3.0 engine to make those numbers. Wouldn't be as pleasant to use, but it would work.

ManOpener said:
In the big HP game, there really is no replacement for displacement.
Agreed.

anonymous-user

61 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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Here you go:

http://www.csrelectric.com/gscp1_e_40.html



well over 1000 brake, and TOTAL reliability!!


(finding a long enough extension lead may be an issue though..........)

Jim Campbell

445 posts

229 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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While i agree some of the smaller engines can make big power and do it reliably one of the points in the first post was nothing better than shell v power, ie no e85 q/c16, ms109 or any of that jungle juice in a drum. So we can stop arguing about rb23/30 and the 2jz(supra) engines or just about anything under 5ish liters in capacity as the won't make the numbers on PULP.

Ta

V88Dicky

7,320 posts

190 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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A guy on the Monaro forum had his car upgraded to 1000hp (1017 on the dyno iirc). He took it to Monkfish and his only requirements were that a) it made at least 1000hp, b) that it was reliable, and c) that it would be docile enough for his missus to drive to the shops!
I think it was a stroked LS1 up to 7 litres and it had twin turbos. Harryoz was his name.

gsd2000

11,515 posts

190 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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V88Dicky said:
A guy on the Monaro forum had his car upgraded to 1000hp (1017 on the dyno iirc). He took it to Monkfish and his only requirements were that a) it made at least 1000hp, b) that it was reliable, and c) that it would be docile enough for his missus to drive to the shops!
I think it was a stroked LS1 up to 7 litres and it had twin turbos. Harryoz was his name.
i think it may be an ls7 with 2 garrett GT37's, but i think his standard gearbox is struggling abit but he has clocked up a fair few miles in it

mattmoxon

5,026 posts

225 months

Tuesday 4th January 2011
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mxspyder said:
mattmoxon said:
Yep best way is a big yank V8 or V10 with some sort of forced induction. keep the oil fresh and the plugs 'n' points in good order and it will be very reliable. A pushrod motor is a good bet, no timing chains/belts to worry about.
Points on a 1000BHP car?
Bit of a generic phrase biggrin

redvictor said:
mattmoxon said:
Yep best way is a big yank V8 or V10 with some sort of forced induction. keep the oil fresh and the plugs 'n' points in good order and it will be very reliable. A pushrod motor is a good bet, no timing chains/belts to worry about.
Except they have got timing chains...
Forget anything euro or jap. big inch Yank V8 with a turbo or supercharger.Run it on Shell V power,put it in the car of your choice.Have tyre frying fun for ever as long as it's done right in the beginning and has regular oil changes.
I thought some of them had gear driven cams?