Got any ammo.....please...
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Papa Hotel said:
It might be a comprehensive study but the snippet you've posted offers little info. What was the average cost of repair of the 7% of Hondas that needed work? A 3 grand engine rebuild? And the 25% of Fords? What's that, they needed a bulb changed?
Statistics can prove anything, it's a fact that 97% of people will believe any old ste that's put up on the internet.
OP - the Ford will not left you down, don't be frightened by loaded stats and percentages. They didn't sell over a quarted of a million cars in the UK last year by being ste, did they? However, I stand by my other suggestion, Alfa 156 GTA Sportwagon.
Can't be arsed to look through it again - rather than just slating the results out of hand each time it would probably answer your questions if you went and read it, but the average cost of repairs was something like £300 for Honda and £250 for Ford. Bear in mind that the results come from Warranty Direct derived from the payouts they have made, so there is no bias towards one make or another, nothing is being 'proven' by 'loaded' stats, feel free to keep the tin foil hat on though. No dount Ford's are reliable nowadays, the point being they have a way to go to match Honda so it just depends how highly OP & his FiL regard reliability compared to other factors.Statistics can prove anything, it's a fact that 97% of people will believe any old ste that's put up on the internet.
OP - the Ford will not left you down, don't be frightened by loaded stats and percentages. They didn't sell over a quarted of a million cars in the UK last year by being ste, did they? However, I stand by my other suggestion, Alfa 156 GTA Sportwagon.
For me would be a Forester :P
All you guys and gals saying the new C-max is a good looking car, the budget is £6k, not £16k!
Id go for the Ford over the Honda. And I hate Ford.
With your milage I'd probably go for a petrol, newer car too, Its going to take you a long time to get back the difference in price based on fuel alone.
Id go for the Ford over the Honda. And I hate Ford.
With your milage I'd probably go for a petrol, newer car too, Its going to take you a long time to get back the difference in price based on fuel alone.
Hornblower said:
Yea I am grateful whatever FIL wants to buy us is fine, He's the kinda guy who would be devastated if his choice caused us endless problems, but as many of you have suggested the c-max sounds pretty good. As regards trading in our car for something fun for the weekends, our car trade in value is a massive £850.00
any suggestions? a jap 80's classic preferably
You could give the money to your work partner! any suggestions? a jap 80's classic preferably
For 6k the honda Frv's one can buy for my wife and I generally are a few years older and higher mileage than the cmax's available. The cmax feels not as well built as the frv but in the long run, servicing aside, the cmax is gonna save us the monies, cheaper to tax and insure and more economical.
If we grow out of the cmax i'll be back asking for suggestions.
cheers
If we grow out of the cmax i'll be back asking for suggestions.
cheers
Hornblower said:
For 6k the honda Frv's one can buy for my wife and I generally are a few years older and higher mileage than the cmax's available. The cmax feels not as well built as the frv but in the long run, servicing aside, the cmax is gonna save us the monies, cheaper to tax and insure and more economical.
If we grow out of the cmax i'll be back asking for suggestions.
cheers
Good on you sir, let us know how you get on.If we grow out of the cmax i'll be back asking for suggestions.
cheers
And isn't nice to see a "What Car" thread not descend into a school ground bunfight
Beer anyone?
mybrainhurts said:
sliced bread said:
911p said:
mybrainhurts said:
My wife and me
Epic fail. My father-in-law, very generously and kindly has offered to buy I a new car
Doesn't work, does it..?
My father in law very generously offered to buy me a car.
My father in law and I are going to buy a car.
mybrainhurts said:
sliced bread said:
911p said:
mybrainhurts said:
My wife and me
Epic fail. My father-in-law, very generously and kindly has offered to buy I a new car
Doesn't work, does it..?
However
My father-in-law, very generously and kindly has offered to buy my partner and I a new car.
My father-in-law, very generously and kindly has offered to buy my partner and me a new car.
Both work, both acceptable.
Score draw.
Tallbut Buxomly said:
My father in law and I are going to buy a car.
This is not the same case as the sentence above though."I am going to buy a car" is correct.
"My wife and I are going to buy a car" is correct.
"My father-in-law is going to buy me a car" is correct.
"My father-in-law is going to buy my wife and me a car" is correct.
The link you posted states why:
link said:
Use the pronoun me, along with other objective pronouns such as us, him, her, you, and them, when the pronoun is the object of a verb:
Danny thanked them.
The dog followed John and me to the door.
In the last example, the pronoun me, together with the proper noun John, forms the object of the verb follow, so you need to use me rather than I.
Use the pronoun me, along with other objective pronouns such as us, him, her, you, and them, when the pronoun is the object of a preposition:
Rose spent the day with Jake and me.
Me, together with Jake, forms the object of the preposition with, so you need to use the pronoun me rather than the pronoun I.
Danny thanked them.
The dog followed John and me to the door.
In the last example, the pronoun me, together with the proper noun John, forms the object of the verb follow, so you need to use me rather than I.
Use the pronoun me, along with other objective pronouns such as us, him, her, you, and them, when the pronoun is the object of a preposition:
Rose spent the day with Jake and me.
Me, together with Jake, forms the object of the preposition with, so you need to use the pronoun me rather than the pronoun I.
This thread has very nearly been derailed by the grammar police.
Luckily there is still useful info here somewhere - that's interesting, cheers r11co!
r11co said:
masermartin said:
or have injector problems (Ford TDCi are "above averagely" prone to this I understand - I know nothing of the reliability of Honda diesels)
The PSA shared engines used in the C-Max do not suffer from the same issues that the 2.0/2.2/2.4 Duratorq Ford TDCi engines do (specifically not the failure of injectors per se but the ridiculous cost of replacement because of the extortionate charges for recoding the new ones, but as I said not an issue here).Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff