The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Dashcam" Thread
Discussion
The Wookie said:
hornetrider said:
carlove said:
zedx19 said:
That one will cause some debate I'm sure. I'll start by blaming the car driver who should have checked the lane was clear and creeped though, it could have been a bus or taxi using the bus lane.Cyclist doesn't have good hazard perception though, should have slowed down approaching the junction, especially as there was a gap left by the Range Rover. Unrelated to the accident but he should have slowed on approach to the crossing as well.
That said the car, by the book, needs to make sure the way ahead is clear. I don't think it could have been expected to see a cyclist travelling at that speed hidden by the traffic.
The Wookie said:
I don't buy his 16mph either, not exactly scientific but a quick check of the length of the zigzags on google maps and an iphone stopwatch gives me nearly 20mph, which seems quick to me
Needing to pass that truck on the nearside, noting that it is totally blocking my view of the crossing, would have brought me down to walking pace in a car, green light or no. The chance of someone crossing there, with traffic stationary, is very high.Had either pilot not been an idiot, there would have been no collision. Hence 50/50 in my book.
Pebbles167 said:
I reckon so. Also, that lorry that rams straight into stationary traffic. Wouldn't be surprised to hear of some serious injuries or death relating to that one.
Yeah, one driver killed, a few others injured. Lorry driver was sentenced to prison recently IIRC, happened somewhere near Liverpool. Not really cricket having that video in the compilation imo...Pebbles167 said:
that fiesta st looked at 1:35 looked quick and put a fair bit of speed into that corner - st driving thoughBennet said:
If he'd been filtering down a non-existant lane, I'd be blaming the cyclist for that. Since it was an actual lane though, I think the driver should have been way way more careful. Cyclist still needs to anticipate these things though.
Lanes a bus lane until where the video starts, then is 100m of left turn only (for that side road) and then bus lane resumes. Suspect driver was expecting a bus or nothing, however see taxi(plural of taxi is taxis?) and vans use the lane too. Lazadude said:
Bennet said:
If he'd been filtering down a non-existant lane, I'd be blaming the cyclist for that. Since it was an actual lane though, I think the driver should have been way way more careful. Cyclist still needs to anticipate these things though.
Lanes a bus lane until where the video starts, then is 100m of left turn only (for that side road) and then bus lane resumes. Suspect driver was expecting a bus or nothing, however see taxi(plural of taxi is taxis?) and vans use the lane too. WCZ said:
Pebbles167 said:
that fiesta st looked at 1:35 looked quick and put a fair bit of speed into that corner - st driving thoughsuperlightr said:
I dont think the fiesta expected anything. All they saw was 1 line of cars stop/start a gap in front of the LR opened up or the LR flashed and they went. I dont think they even saw that there were 2 lanes there and wernt even looking of any traffic (or a cyclist) in lane 1.
Fair enough.For those that are wondering, its here: https://goo.gl/maps/GydQA8JfoGy
The road only ever backs up during rush hour.
Lazadude said:
Lanes a bus lane until where the video starts, then is 100m of left turn only (for that side road) and then bus lane resumes. Suspect driver was expecting a bus or nothing, however see taxi(plural of taxi is taxis?) and vans use the lane too.
It's permitted for cycles to use the bus lane.John145 said:
WCZ said:
Pebbles167 said:
that fiesta st looked at 1:35 looked quick and put a fair bit of speed into that corner - st driving thoughAs for the 'best tyres on the front' guys - just proves how important it is to have decent tyres all round.
Lazadude said:
hornetrider said:
Lazadude said:
Lanes a bus lane until where the video starts, then is 100m of left turn only (for that side road) and then bus lane resumes. Suspect driver was expecting a bus or nothing, however see taxi(plural of taxi is taxis?) and vans use the lane too.
It's permitted for cycles to use the bus lane.100% cyclist. Let me explain, the cyclist is going so fast when a pedestrian is on the road and crossing he doesn't have time to stop or even acknowledge them. Be prepared to stop.
He continues hell for leather looking two foot in front of himself and is surprised when a car comes out of no where.
Now, yes, you could argue its 50/50 or 70/30 till the cows come home. But we are clearly dealing with a fkwit, one who complains to police about no action getting taken, yet breaks the highway code himself, on the same video, on the same road, meters away. This is Darwin in action. The reason he is on a bike is cause he's too think to own a licence, probably.
You were given a warning feet away, but no, I cant be wrong I am a cyclist. I cant use a think called, my senses, something that is designed to keep me away from danger because they lycra pants clog my common sense.
He continues hell for leather looking two foot in front of himself and is surprised when a car comes out of no where.
Now, yes, you could argue its 50/50 or 70/30 till the cows come home. But we are clearly dealing with a fkwit, one who complains to police about no action getting taken, yet breaks the highway code himself, on the same video, on the same road, meters away. This is Darwin in action. The reason he is on a bike is cause he's too think to own a licence, probably.
You were given a warning feet away, but no, I cant be wrong I am a cyclist. I cant use a think called, my senses, something that is designed to keep me away from danger because they lycra pants clog my common sense.
Pebbles167 said:
What happened at circa 30 seconds causing the Clio/motorcycle thingy? I can't make it out with these we eyes and this wee screen?scenario8 said:
What happened at circa 30 seconds causing the Clio/motorcycle thingy? I can't make it out with these we eyes and this wee screen?
Looks like a panicked standing on the brakes and the fronts locked up. Either that or a blowout, but would've thought you'd see a lot more rubber flying everywhere if it had delaminated or blown out.Theophany said:
scenario8 said:
What happened at circa 30 seconds causing the Clio/motorcycle thingy? I can't make it out with these we eyes and this wee screen?
Looks like a panicked standing on the brakes and the fronts locked up. Either that or a blowout, but would've thought you'd see a lot more rubber flying everywhere if it had delaminated or blown out.As the accident unfolds, you can see a bike directly infront of the Clio swerve to the left. I deduce that it is avoiding a car infront of it who's braked sharply because he can't join the main carriageway because L1 is occupied.
So, the Clio also hits the brakes to avoid this car and swerves, losing control.
hornetrider said:
Theophany said:
scenario8 said:
What happened at circa 30 seconds causing the Clio/motorcycle thingy? I can't make it out with these we eyes and this wee screen?
Looks like a panicked standing on the brakes and the fronts locked up. Either that or a blowout, but would've thought you'd see a lot more rubber flying everywhere if it had delaminated or blown out.As the accident unfolds, you can see a bike directly infront of the Clio swerve to the left. I deduce that it is avoiding a car infront of it who's braked sharply because he can't join the main carriageway because L1 is occupied.
So, the Clio also hits the brakes to avoid this car and swerves, losing control.
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