Ringing kits for sale on ebay...No not on our watch!

[Liquid Knight]

Seller Reply said:

Hi . I am selling this as memorabilia only . But yes certainly if someone buys it to put on a car then I will help to find out if it your friends car. Thanks .

eBay message said:

You do know the log book is the property of the DVLA and by selling it you are committing theft?

[Liquid Knight]

sellers reply said:

No . There are 7000 logbook listed on eBay I just saw them and listed some old ones I had

eBay message said:

eBay are as aware they are breaking the law as you are. Basically they are acting as a fence.

While it's making money for them they aren't going to put a stop to it.

Because you are not selling a document on its own even though that isn't yours to sell in the first place. You are including the VIN plates so you are selling Ringing Kits.

You know exactly what you are selling, who is likely to buy and why. As far as I am concerned you are as guilty as the thieving scum who have either taken a car already or will steal one to order after they buy your Ringing Kit.

I have passed your other listing on the the RS Owners Club and details including screen grabs have been passed on to the Police should you decide to remove or try to delete these illegal listings.

Edited by Liquid Knight on Monday 5th February 15:34

[Liquid Knight]

Ford RS special for some new thread followers.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1989-ford-escort-rs-tur...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/for-escort-rs1600i-log-...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1971-FORD-ESCORT-MK1-RS...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Escort-mk1-mexico-...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Series-1-Rs-Turbo-ID-Lo...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-ESCORT-RS-2000-MEX...

Non-RS

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ford-escort-mk2-v5c-mem...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/escort-mk1-2-door-v5c-v...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-FIESTA-MKI-957cc-3...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Escort-MK2-V5-Log-...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-CORTINA-ESTATE-XL-...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-CAPRI-SALOON-1973-...

Each one of these could be used to obtain a new V5C and those sold without VIN plates used to buy/obtain replacement ones. Every listing like these can mean someone has their car, their pride and joy taken from them. All of these listings are unlawful and have been reported to eBay.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/204247

That is why we need to put a stop to it.

[Liquid Knight]

eBay still haven't removed this...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1989-ford-escort-rs-tur...

...even though I have emailed this link to them with it.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2556465875/permali...

[Liquid Knight]

InitialDave said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1994-Rover-Metro-GTI-sp...

I emailed eBay about this as it is a complete ringing kit including laser etched windows. Still hasn't been removed.

Here's a good clean example of a four door, right hand drive, Mk2, Escort 1.3L originally registered in Huddersfield.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152904128446

[Liquid Knight]

Here's a 1980's (1978-86) Mk3 Capri with some kit car stuff registered as a 1970 1600 GT

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222853191851

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/204247

[Liquid Knight]

Remember...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/282572104314

...it's the chassis number not the body number that is retained.

This is a radically altered chassis, series body and registered as an Austin so place your bets how legitimate any of the parts are.

For £30,000 it's not worth the risk of having it seized and destroyed.

[Liquid Knight]

Why bother at all eh?

[Liquid Knight]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/V5-Ford-Sierra-Cosworth...



Just to remind everyone how to report these items to eBay...

Ringing Kit report...



Government property report...



...than you to eBay for allowing me to use their images and trademarks under "fair usage".

[Liquid Knight]

cv01jw said:

Ringing kits are new to me, but I found out about them when browsing Ebay and finding this:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Classic-Mini-Mayfair-V5...

I assume this counts as a kit?

A blatant bloody one. Good find and welcome to the good fight.

[Liquid Knight]

Why do we do what we do?



Because scum like this...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MORRIS-MINI-MINOR-1960-...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/classic-morris-mini-min...

...make it easy for criminals to get away with it.

[Liquid Knight]

cv01jw said:

This too:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ford-fiesta-Mk2-Xr2-Rol...

Doesn't look like an XR2 to me!

Me neither.

I could be a title error and should say...

"Mk2 Ford Fiesta shell. Potential XR2 donor".

...or similar. I have asked what the log book says. If it's an XR2 log book and that's how they bought it they have been ripped off.

[Liquid Knight]

cv01jw said:

There are so many on Ebay it is unbelievable.

I've sent another email to eBay about it today.

eBay are in effect aiding and abetting the theft of motor vehicles and refuse steadfast to do anything about it.

[Liquid Knight]

Forwarded to someone who might actually do something about it.

[Liquid Knight]

It's not just a car. It's a member of someones family that's being taken.

Aided and abetted by eBay.

Copyrights to images belong to the sites of origin Facebook and eBay under fair usage these have been used for transformative purposes to add to a discussion.

[Liquid Knight]

As Justin suggested the build pre-dates the system upgrades and updates. So even though it looks like a Sylvia Striker (???) it was built before the points scheme.

Well worth looking out for as there are several new build kit cars running on old Dutton and other identities because whoever built it could not be arsed to pay the £300 test for radically altered vehicles. It makes you wonder if that corner has been cut how many other have been so if you ever come across a kit car like that it's best to walk away from it.

[Liquid Knight]

Fastpedeller said:

All very well until it collides with you and things could get messy - nice looking car though!

There's something about old school Weller wheels.

[Liquid Knight]

Backwards ringing...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MGB-ROADSTER-BODYSHELL-...



...and the usual...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/land-rover-110-for-spar...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MG-Midget-memorabilia-V...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/V5C-1968-Austin-Mini-Co...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Classic-Mini-V5C-logboo...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Classic-Mini-V5c-And-Vi...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Escort-Mk1-2-Door-Logbo...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/V5C-1969-Austin-Mini-99...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1966-Morris-Mini-850-Fu...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Escort-RS-Turbo-se...

...seriously???

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ferrari-512TR-1993-NO-B...

Does anyone actually work for eBay?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LEXUS-LS600HL-2008-CHAS...

[Liquid Knight]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Escort-Mk1-2-Door-Logbo...

Anyone else have a problem with this thread?

[Liquid Knight]

The first thing I did when I saw this...



...on a stolen vehicle page on Facebook is...

Logged on to eBay.
Put "Ford RS log book" in the search bar.
Reported ten illegal listings.

...then I shared it with the RS Owners club and others.