Best smoker barges 1-5 large [vol8]

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E65Ross

35,152 posts

213 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Right...

As said, battery dead as a dodo.... Quite why after a short period I'm not sure but anyway....

Managed to just squeeze the charger under the bonnet, plug wasn't quite long enough to reach inside the garage to I've put the extension lead under the bonnet as well. The bonnet won't quite close but do you guys reckon this will be ok to leave for days on end come rain, ice etc? The only thing left uncovered is the white lead for the extension lead.










Edited by E65Ross on Tuesday 30th December 15:50

Motorrad

6,811 posts

188 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Krikkit said:
Be cautious if you are thinking of jumping it tbh Ross - I'd go for a remove and recharge battery option if you're not pushed for time.

(Glad you're getting on btw, a great relief to know a fellow bargeist hasn't succumbed)
I'd also be circumspect about jumping a car with sophisticated electronics. I'd rather whip it out and put it on charge in the garage. I presume this won't cause coding issues however?

4941cc

25,867 posts

207 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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BMW alarms and immobilisers do seem to eat many many volts when they're laid up, for not even very long periods.

Just flicking it open, grabbing a bag and locking again leaves a higher current going around it in readiness for a further 15 minutes, before dropping to alarm and immobiliser only.

(Other gadget laden barges too, presumably).

Caruso

7,445 posts

257 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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4941cc said:
BMW alarms and immobilisers do seem to eat many many volts when they're laid up, for not even very long periods.

Just flicking it open, grabbing a bag and locking again leaves a higher current going around it in readiness for a further 15 minutes, before dropping to alarm and immobiliser only.

(Other gadget laden barges too, presumably).
There's a control module that leaves various systems on (including the gearbox?) for 15 mins after the car is locked. Don't ask how I know this, suffice to say it was an expensive lesson learnt!

C Lee Farquar

4,078 posts

217 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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E65Ross said:
Bugger! Went to start car and the battery is flat! Central Locking didn't work, opened with the key and just didn't even turn over.
Things could be worse, this is the current state of my e66. Open heart and wallet surgery


E24man

6,747 posts

180 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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C Lee Farquar said:
Things could be worse, this is the current state of my e66. Open heart and wallet surgery

Why?

brickwall

5,255 posts

211 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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C Lee Farquar said:
E65Ross said:
Bugger! Went to start car and the battery is flat! Central Locking didn't work, opened with the key and just didn't even turn over.
Things could be worse, this is the current state of my e66. Open heart and wallet surgery

yikes

C Lee Farquar

4,078 posts

217 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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There's a water pipe in the valley running front to rear and the seal at the front of the engine fails and mine has.

It's not the end of the world, about a grand in parts and 10 hours (supposedly)

I'm taking the opportunity to have the wheels refurbished and fitting new tyres whilst it's resting.

SuperHangOn

3,486 posts

154 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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why a grand in parts?

That puts my maf sensor woes in perspective anyway.

Can't the battery just be removed on the e65?

brickwall

5,255 posts

211 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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C Lee Farquar said:
There's a water pipe in the valley running front to rear and the seal at the front of the engine fails and mine has.
yes

This happened to Sam (previous owner of my E65) - one of the reasons I bought it. I believe the seal is about the size of a 50p piece?

idiotgap

2,112 posts

134 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Hey Ross.

I think even posh batteries are only guaranteed for 4 or five years and most (including ones bought at MB main dealers rather less). Don't worry about it, just one of those things.

Since you have no immediate need for the car you can try and bring it back to life with a battery conditioner - oft' recommended c-tek brand or otherwise. You might find it never holds charge very well again though in which case you need to buy another. Bosch S4 or S5 are normally pretty reasonable from someone if not ECP (number relates to the length of guarantee). Do ring up a main dealer and find out how much one with a propeller on it is if they do such a thing, not always trop cher.

If the battery was newish, maybe it didn't lose it's charge because it's knackered... there's a possibility you have a constant drain which might have done for it.

We've had this sort of problem on a couple of our cars, usually replacing the battery has been the only thing that needed to be done. The SL lives on a c-tek life support trickle charge because it's going out much.

edo

16,699 posts

266 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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E65Ross said:
Right...

As said, battery dead as a dodo.... Quite why after a short period I'm not sure but anyway....

Managed to just squeeze the charger under the bonnet, plug wasn't quite long enough to reach inside the garage to I've put the extension lead under the bonnet as well. The bonnet won't quite close but do you guys reckon this will be ok to leave for days on end come rain, ice etc? The only thing left uncovered is the white lead for the extension lead.










Edited by E65Ross on Tuesday 30th December 15:50
Sure it will be fine, but I would personally take the offer of a trickle charger to the cig lighter with everything in the car and easily shut the door on the cable.

Krikkit

26,593 posts

182 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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edo said:
E65Ross said:
Right...

As said, battery dead as a dodo.... Quite why after a short period I'm not sure but anyway....

Managed to just squeeze the charger under the bonnet, plug wasn't quite long enough to reach inside the garage to I've put the extension lead under the bonnet as well. The bonnet won't quite close but do you guys reckon this will be ok to leave for days on end come rain, ice etc? The only thing left uncovered is the white lead for the extension lead.
Sure it will be fine, but I would personally take the offer of a trickle charger to the cig lighter with everything in the car and easily shut the door on the cable.
Agree, but that will definitely be fine.

C Lee Farquar

4,078 posts

217 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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SuperHangOn said:
why a grand in parts?

That puts my maf sensor woes in perspective anyway.

Can't the battery just be removed on the e65?
The offending part from BMW is cheaper but you need to take the engine out and take the heads off. A Company in the States does an expanding pipe which means much less work but the parts are more expensive.

As disconnecting the battery is recommended for a hard reset I can't see that removing it would be an issue.

CharlesdeGaulle

26,459 posts

181 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Ross - I'd second the recommendation for a battery conditioner rather than just a charger. Not only do they do a recharge, but they do it intelligently to help maintain the battery; you can keep them on the charge cycle for months.

4941cc

25,867 posts

207 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Caruso said:
4941cc said:
BMW alarms and immobilisers do seem to eat many many volts when they're laid up, for not even very long periods.

Just flicking it open, grabbing a bag and locking again leaves a higher current going around it in readiness for a further 15 minutes, before dropping to alarm and immobiliser only.

(Other gadget laden barges too, presumably).
There's a control module that leaves various systems on (including the gearbox?) for 15 mins after the car is locked. Don't ask how I know this, suffice to say it was an expensive lesson learnt!
How do you think I learned it? hehe

E24man

6,747 posts

180 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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C Lee Farquar said:
There's a water pipe in the valley running front to rear and the seal at the front of the engine fails and mine has.

It's not the end of the world, about a grand in parts and 10 hours (supposedly)

I'm taking the opportunity to have the wheels refurbished and fitting new tyres whilst it's resting.
I knew of this problem with the V8 '45 engines but didn't realise the V12's suffered too.

E65Ross

35,152 posts

213 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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C Lee Farquar said:
There's a water pipe in the valley running front to rear and the seal at the front of the engine fails and mine has.

It's not the end of the world, about a grand in parts and 10 hours (supposedly)

I'm taking the opportunity to have the wheels refurbished and fitting new tyres whilst it's resting.
Sorry if this makes you feel bad but there's a much cheaper fix these days. Still costs about £1k total though.

C Lee Farquar

4,078 posts

217 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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E65Ross said:
Sorry if this makes you feel bad but there's a much cheaper fix these days. Still costs about £1k total though.
Is that with an insert rather than tube? I saw that for the V8 but not the V12. Total fix won't come in much over 1k anyway.

E65Ross

35,152 posts

213 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
Ross - I'd second the recommendation for a battery conditioner rather than just a charger. Not only do they do a recharge, but they do it intelligently to help maintain the battery; you can keep them on the charge cycle for months.
The charger I have is a high end one (retails at £90) and says it can happily act as a trickle charger so I've no concerns there smile

Battery is about 5 years old if I recall.
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