Ringing kits for sale on ebay...No not on our watch!

Ringing kits for sale on ebay...No not on our watch!

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Liquid Knight

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15,754 posts

184 months

Sunday 21st July 2013
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me said:
The above link is to a vehicle for sale on eBay. The seller freely admits ringing the identity to another vehicle and a willingness to put a false identity on the sale item.
Sussex Police said:
Thank you for your email - Can you please advise if this refers to any location in Sussex and if so, what address.
Good to hear they know how to follow web-links. rolleyes

me said:
The eBay listing states Crawley. Would you like me to bid on it to get a full address?
Sussex Police said:
The bidding has now ended however the local officers have details of the seller and the article that was for sale so they will make further enquiries.
Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do..... cop

Cliftonite

8,419 posts

139 months

Monday 22nd July 2013
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KAWASAKI VN750 1992 HEADSTOCK & V5 LOGBOOK:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am...


Liquid Knight

Original Poster:

15,754 posts

184 months

Monday 22nd July 2013
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Cliftonite said:
KAWASAKI VN750 1992 HEADSTOCK & V5 LOGBOOK:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am...
Report sent. Good find. wink

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Monday 22nd July 2013
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Has this lovely Honda Civic been posted yet?

loafer123

15,461 posts

216 months

Monday 22nd July 2013
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Mr2Mike said:
Has this lovely Honda Civic been posted yet?
What is wrong with that? Kit car which use all the key running gear from a single donor car are allowed to keep the original registration, at least they were when I built one back in the Eighties.


Liquid Knight

Original Poster:

15,754 posts

184 months

Monday 22nd July 2013
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loafer123 said:
Mr2Mike said:
Has this lovely Honda Civic been posted yet?
What is wrong with that? Kit car which use all the key running gear from a single donor car are allowed to keep the original registration, at least they were when I built one back in the Eighties.
Still a £$&£$ on the log book?


http://www.pistonheads.com/xforums/topic.asp?h=0&a...

I like the "Still a B-reg Civic so cheap insurance" line. Good spot, wrong thread. wink

shakotan

10,721 posts

197 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2013
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Liquid Knight said:
loafer123 said:
Mr2Mike said:
Has this lovely Honda Civic been posted yet?
What is wrong with that? Kit car which use all the key running gear from a single donor car are allowed to keep the original registration, at least they were when I built one back in the Eighties.
Still a £$&£$ on the log book?


http://www.pistonheads.com/xforums/topic.asp?h=0&a...

I like the "Still a B-reg Civic so cheap insurance" line. Good spot, wrong thread. wink
Still forwarded it to AVCIS though... wink

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2013
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loafer123 said:
What is wrong with that? Kit car which use all the key running gear from a single donor car are allowed to keep the original registration, at least they were when I built one back in the Eighties.
The days of bodging together a kit using the donor registration are long, long gone.

The other point is that an MK Indy is not Civic based...

GC8

19,910 posts

191 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2013
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If all the running gear is used then it is/was a Honda Civic special.

shakotan

10,721 posts

197 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2013
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GC8 said:
If all the running gear is used then it is/was a Honda Civic special.
No Honda Civic has ever been RWD.

shakotan

10,721 posts

197 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2013
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loafer123 said:
Mr2Mike said:
Has this lovely Honda Civic been posted yet?
What is wrong with that? Kit car which use all the key running gear from a single donor car are allowed to keep the original registration, at least they were when I built one back in the Eighties.
If you're using a new 'kit', and all of the parts come from a single donor vehicle, then you may apply to the DVLA for an age-related plated relevant to the age of the donor vehicle. However, you never retain the original VRM as that vehicle ceases to exist once broken for the donor parts.

GC8

19,910 posts

191 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2013
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shakotan said:
GC8 said:
If all the running gear is used then it is/was a Honda Civic special.
No Honda Civic has ever been RWD.
Indeed, but the principle stands.

shakotan

10,721 posts

197 months

Wednesday 24th July 2013
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GC8 said:
shakotan said:
GC8 said:
If all the running gear is used then it is/was a Honda Civic special.
No Honda Civic has ever been RWD.
Indeed, but the principle stands.
As noted in my post above, as long as all the donor parts came from a single Honda Civic, and the Seven kit was new, the builder can apply for an age-related plate. They cannot retain the ID of the original Civic though.

CanAm

9,302 posts

273 months

Wednesday 24th July 2013
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The Ad states "Running on a donor ‘B’ plate Honda civic" which I take to mean it's still registered as a Honda Civic, not just using an age-related plate. As it's got a Fireblade engine I thank we can safely say that this is not a single-donor vehicle and I'd be amazed if it actually had ANY parts from a Honda Civic.

shakotan

10,721 posts

197 months

Wednesday 24th July 2013
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CanAm said:
The Ad states "Running on a donor ‘B’ plate Honda civic" which I take to mean it's still registered as a Honda Civic, not just using an age-related plate. As it's got a Fireblade engine I thank we can safely say that this is not a single-donor vehicle and I'd be amazed if it actually had ANY parts from a Honda Civic.
I think we've already all agreed that this is the case for this particular vehicle.

GC8

19,910 posts

191 months

Wednesday 24th July 2013
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shakotan said:
GC8 said:
shakotan said:
GC8 said:
If all the running gear is used then it is/was a Honda Civic special.
No Honda Civic has ever been RWD.
Indeed, but the principle stands.
As noted in my post above, as long as all the donor parts came from a single Honda Civic, and the Seven kit was new, the builder can apply for an age-related plate. They cannot retain the ID of the original Civic though.
I understand how it works Dan, but do you understand how it used to work? Whislt the Civic is a front wheel drive car, so not a great example, if we took an Escort or a Spitfire, then an 'Escort special' or Spitfire special' was perfectly acceptable.

AlexRS2782

8,060 posts

214 months

Wednesday 24th July 2013
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Whilst the ad doesn't read as a ringing kit, just a normal ad stating parts for sale, stripped shells available with V5's, etc, etc.

However a poster on the RSOC messaged them enquiring about the availability of a wing & the guy replied with a generic price list email, that also stated the V5's & VIN plates could be posted for £100 & then he would deal with the disposal of the shell for the buyer rolleyes

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BREAKING-MK2-ESCORT-2-0R...

lost in espace

6,180 posts

208 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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S0 What

3,358 posts

173 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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lost in espace said:
What's wronge with that? the ID stays with the chassis ?
Ok the bit at the end of the add where he says collection only unless you only want the main bits is obv a referance to the V5/plates only but it's about as leagal as it gets and some people would want only a chassis, i know a few peeps with car bodys on 4X4 chassis, a local tyre place has a fiesta and a bmw E30 on 4X4 chassis using the 4X4 ID (as they leagaly have to).

Edited by S0 What on Wednesday 31st July 16:56

GC8

19,910 posts

191 months

Wednesday 31st July 2013
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Again, with a separate chassis vehicle the original chassis, plates and the V5C doesnt cause me any concern. The bits required to meet the DVLAs points requirement are of low value and easily changed or provided.

Offering to send the V5 and the build plate isnt great but many vendors are looking to increase their return.

Some of the misguided Junior G-Men here should consider petitioning insurers in order to stop them selling slaughtered motorcycle frames with their identities out of greed, which fuel motorcycle theft.