RE: TVR's new owner: PH Meets

[900T-R]

That, and it makes a resfreshing change from 'hey everyone, I'm going to do this and that... erm, I changed my mind, I'm going to do... oh, hang on, on second thought that seems to be impossible... but wait... hey, everyone, here's a new announcement' that we all know and love from a prior era... IMO

I'm happy to wait and see

[Blown2CV]

elisek - calm down, make your point clearly, i think we are struggling to understand what you are talking about. You seem to be saying something which I don't think anyone else has heard, so the burden is on you to make it clear. If it is as you say it is, then it would seem to be of interest at least, but I don't think you've actually said what you mean to say. If you just keep shouting and not making sense we will all just assume it's a load of rubbish and you are insane.

[Ozzie Osmond]

JonRB said:

if you were to start building cars and slapping the TVR logo on it, you are Passing Off pure and simple. Doesn't matter if you have somehow acquired the rights to that logo; you're still Passing Off by putting it on a car. The only thing you could do, *if* you have the rights to that logo, is to prevent the real TVR from using it.

Care is needed because you can't "pass off" your products as somebody else's if that somebody else has ceased to exist.

In much the same way, you can't "infringe" a registered trade mark if that mark is not being used.

Please recognise this is a complex area and the two sentences above are simplified for ease of understanding.

[elisek]

JonRB said:

You clearly know nothing about UK and EU law. Please go away and troll somewhere else.

hahahhahahha

hahahahhahaah
ahhahahahahahahahhahaha

PROBABLY YOU DON'T KNOW THE RULES OF YOUR NEAREST PUB AND STILL TALKING?
YOU RE THE TROLL HERE...GOOD LUCK.;)

[Jayzee]

elisek - provide us with a link to the information you have and let us digest what you have.

To simply state what you have with such smugness isn't going to win you any friends on here.

Perhaps it's the way your written English comes across? I'm not sure...

I state again: nobody putting finances into place to buy TVR would be that naive as to not do proper due-diligence, whereby, any questions such as this would have been highlighted.

ETA - bloody hate typing out on a phone!

[elisek]

Blown2CV said:

elisek - calm down, make your point clearly, i think we are struggling to understand what you are talking about. You seem to be saying something which I don't think anyone else has heard, so the burden is on you to make it clear. If it is as you say it is, then it would seem to be of interest at least, but I don't think you've actually said what you mean to say. If you just keep shouting and not making sense we will all just assume it's a load of rubbish and you are insane.

Hey
i cannotsay everything but i explained what i mean.
Everything is public.
Everyone is able to read can understand except 99% of the people that are able maybe to read only their shopping list!!!

i'm sorry to say that at the moment TVR is nothing, an empty box and that the only think that has value is the logo attached on a car.
Al the rest...companies in uk....drawings...and blabla are NOTHING.

If you want the key of the TVR story door you just need to read all the acts of the last 6 yrs.
It is not easy i know but everything is clear and public.
But as i told you, 99% people here are dreamers that scream scream scream without connect the brain!

cheers

Edited by elisek on Tuesday 25th June 10:49

[Jayzee]

I believe Edgar also has everything he needs to produce recent cars... It's not what he plans, nor wants to do, but he has it all.

Does this chap in Italy have this?

[JonRB]

Ozzie Osmond said:

Care is needed because you can't "pass off" your products as somebody else's if that somebody else has ceased to exist.

In much the same way, you can't "infringe" a registered trade mark if that mark is not being used.

Please recognise this is a complex area and the two sentences above are simplified for ease of understanding.

Oh, for sure. I realise that. I doubt any claim for Passing Off was settled in the Small Claims Court.

However, since NS kept TVR on life support the whole time time, it never ceased to exist. Although, yes, it could be argued that it was not being used. Although one could spend a lot of money on lawyers arguing it.

[JonRB]

elisek said:

PROBABLY YOU DON'T KNOW THE RULES OF YOUR NEAREST PUB AND STILL TALKING?
YOU RE THE TROLL HERE...GOOD LUCK.;)

You don't know anything about me.

I clearly know more about trademark law than you do though.

[elisek]

all the informations are online

EU rules are over UK rules....remember that!

just find the right way and you see everything.

it is too easy posts link....and after that you need to read for days!!

but everythink is public.

You want easy explanations....not easy to do....better read with your eyes. ok?

there are not secrets but only rules that sometimes are positive sometime negative.

[elisek]

JonRB said:

You don't know anything about me.

I clearly know more about trademark law than you do though.

probably but not enough to find the answers!
just what i can see from your post.

needto study much more;)

[elisek]

[redacted]

[Jayzee]

And I'm guessing that as you are in the car building business, you make it your business to keep on top of such things?

You clearly have a better idea of where to find this information than we do - please post links.

[elisek]

I know much more TVR informations than you can image.
HUGE infos but i'm not involved. trust me.
But i know people and deep facts.
I cannot give direct infos.
just read the pubblic papers on the right patent sites.;)

[Blown2CV]

elisek said:

Blown2CV said:

elisek - calm down, make your point clearly, i think we are struggling to understand what you are talking about. You seem to be saying something which I don't think anyone else has heard, so the burden is on you to make it clear. If it is as you say it is, then it would seem to be of interest at least, but I don't think you've actually said what you mean to say. If you just keep shouting and not making sense we will all just assume it's a load of rubbish and you are insane.

Hey
i cannotsay everything but i explained what i mean.
Everything is public.
Everyone is able to read can understand except 99% of the people that are able maybe to read only their shopping list!!!

i'm sorry to say that at the moment TVR is nothing, an empty box and that the only think that has value is the logo attached on a car.
Al the rest...companies in uk....drawings...and blabla are NOTHING.

If you want the key of the TVR story door you just need to read all the acts of the last 6 yrs.
It is not easy i know but everything is clear and public.
But as i told you, 99% people here are dreamers that scream scream scream without connect the brain!

cheers

so it's all in the public domain, yet you can't say what it is... if you are part of the 1%, as you believe, then why can't you summarise it for us? I don't think anyone is saying that Les has bought anything more than the logo and maybe some designs, maybe not. Everyone knows it needs building from the ground up. When you say acts, I have no idea what you are talking about.

[JonRB]

I think what we have here is the very definition of trolling.

[elisek]

As i told, everyone can build any car include a TVR.
How do you sell it?
what logo or brand?

that is the clue;)

[Munter]

JonRB said:

I think what we have here is the very definition of trolling.

I was thinking that.

"Hey guys I know something you don't. Makes you all wrong. Read about it in the right places dummies."

Pretty good troll recipe that.

[Blown2CV]

elisek said:

As i told, everyone can build any car include a TVR.
How do you sell it?
what logo or brand?

that is the clue;)

are you saying that Les Edgar has not purchased the TVR brand - yes or no?

[JonRB]

Munter said:

JonRB said:

I think what we have here is the very definition of trolling.

I was thinking that.

"Hey guys I know something you don't. Makes you all wrong. Read about it in the right places dummies."

Pretty good troll recipe that.

Yup. Prepare, half-bake, then stir occasionally until done. Then into the oven Sin Bin for 24 hours