RE: New Cayman toughens up
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I think it looks great, but it must be the only coupe in the world that costs more than it's convertible equivalent?! We are not talking about a race bred car that needs the structural rigidity, the people that will buy this car will see a boxster that has the same specs as a cayman, but is £2k cheaper and has a fold down roof. And those that do care about structural rigidity will not be spending £40k on a standard cayman...
Looks far better than the old effort which really looked like a bag of s**t.
Porsche designed the last one so that only midgets and middle earth dwellers could fit in it comfortably for long periods, much like every Z4 that has been.
Hopefully the new model will be a tad more spacious. And I thought Germans were tall...
Porsche designed the last one so that only midgets and middle earth dwellers could fit in it comfortably for long periods, much like every Z4 that has been.
Hopefully the new model will be a tad more spacious. And I thought Germans were tall...
RenesisEvo said:
This looks promising, and I'm sure they'll be good reviews, but I can't help thinking - why would I buy this, and not a Boxster? In the Boxster, if you want you can drop the roof. I'd like to know what the Cayman will/can offer that the Boxster does not (beyond the obvious chassis rigidity comments).
Not everyone likes or wants convertibles. I don't, for one. If I had the money I'd have the Cayman over the Boxster.Porsche should build an RS or GT3 version.
aston addict said:
Looks far better than the old effort which really looked like a bag of s**t..
I parked my Audi A3 Sportback (admittedly a nice one, black with Audi sport bodykit) next to the old Cayman once, and I genuinely thought the A3 was the far better looking vehicle and I remember thinking to myself. 'something seriously wrong here'.
HorneyMX5 said:
"This time the rear window has a slight bow that means it doesn't disappear into the rear haunches like the old one"
That's a shame, I thought that was perhaps the best design feature of the old one that really separated it from the design of the other cars in the range.
I agree, I thought the back end of the old Caymen was great.That's a shame, I thought that was perhaps the best design feature of the old one that really separated it from the design of the other cars in the range.
Well, I know its Porsche's design ethos but the new Cayman really does look like a 911 now.
And as for the price, always was more expensive than a softtop but less expensive to build. It's Porsche, what do people expect? A bargain?
As for 2000 cars in total last year. Well its bought by enthusiasts far more than the 911 and enthusisats will know that there was a new model on the cards. That and the fact that enthusiasts tend not to buy new if they can help it. That's always been my theory on why it did poorly saleswise.
And as for the price, always was more expensive than a softtop but less expensive to build. It's Porsche, what do people expect? A bargain?
As for 2000 cars in total last year. Well its bought by enthusiasts far more than the 911 and enthusisats will know that there was a new model on the cards. That and the fact that enthusiasts tend not to buy new if they can help it. That's always been my theory on why it did poorly saleswise.
I'd be surprised if it drives any better than the 981 Boxster S which I thought even on 20" wheels was superb.
Unless I'm mistaken the 981/991 engine architecture is now the same so warranty aside 350BHP is fairly easily attainable.
Unless I'm mistaken the 981/991 engine architecture is now the same so warranty aside 350BHP is fairly easily attainable.
sagarich said:
I think it looks great!
If only Porsche didn't have internal marketing politics.... then we could have the full 350hp that the base 991 Carerra gets.
If only Porsche didn't have internal marketing politics.... then we could have the full 350hp that the base 991 Carerra gets.
This may just be the best sports car on the market right now. Apart for the looks, what I like most is the adequate rather than excessive power: you can have loads of fun with this car on public roads, without being a criminal or an idiot.
Regarding the GT3/RS suggestions, I don't think that Porsche will do that, and perhaps it shouldn't: most appropriate would be a CS version (maybe even of the normal -non-s- cayman): same engine, stripped out interior / sound-proofing and a reasonable price (like the 968CS of old). Ok, the reasonable price is just wishful thinking...
Regarding the GT3/RS suggestions, I don't think that Porsche will do that, and perhaps it shouldn't: most appropriate would be a CS version (maybe even of the normal -non-s- cayman): same engine, stripped out interior / sound-proofing and a reasonable price (like the 968CS of old). Ok, the reasonable price is just wishful thinking...
I got the press release from my local dealer this week, and I quote...
"I am pleased to share with you the new Porsche Cayman (Type 981). The latest generation models, announced worldwide today at the Los Angeles Motor Show, continue the legacy of mid-engined Porsche Coupés which started with the 550 Coupé in 1953.
The mid-engined layout is the ideal configuration for a two-seater sportscar, harnessing the laws of physics to create great balance, responsiveness and stability."
Nice to see them championing this over the 911 layout (which everyone knows has pretty unusable rear seats and is mostly used 2 up).
I personally prefer the styling of the outgoing model, and if I had the dough, would be putting it into a Cayman R.
"I am pleased to share with you the new Porsche Cayman (Type 981). The latest generation models, announced worldwide today at the Los Angeles Motor Show, continue the legacy of mid-engined Porsche Coupés which started with the 550 Coupé in 1953.
The mid-engined layout is the ideal configuration for a two-seater sportscar, harnessing the laws of physics to create great balance, responsiveness and stability."
Nice to see them championing this over the 911 layout (which everyone knows has pretty unusable rear seats and is mostly used 2 up).
I personally prefer the styling of the outgoing model, and if I had the dough, would be putting it into a Cayman R.
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