RE: Spotted: Lexus LFA

[ZesPak]

St John Smythe said:

I'm not sure if I get this. Surely the very basic requirements of a supercar is power, speed and looks? The LFA sort of falls shorts on all of these although the sound of it is glorious.

"falls short" is a bit of an overstatement imho.

Stat	LFA	Murci	Zonda S
Top speed	202mph	205mph	208mph
0-62mph	3.7 sec	3.8 sec	3.7
Power	560bhp	631bhp	540bhp

All-in-all, what's .1 of a sec or 3 mph?

I think looks and sound are more important, and it does have the sound. The looks are subjective, I'm a big fan though...

[anonymous-user]

ZesPak said:

St John Smythe said:

I'm not sure if I get this. Surely the very basic requirements of a supercar is power, speed and looks? The LFA sort of falls shorts on all of these although the sound of it is glorious.

"falls short" is a bit of an overstatement imho.

Stat	LFA	Murci	Zonda S
Top speed	202mph	205mph	208mph
0-62mph	3.7 sec	3.8 sec	3.7
Power	560bhp	631bhp	540bhp

All-in-all, what's .1 of a sec or 3 mph?

I think looks and sound are more important, and it does have the sound. The looks are subjective, I'm a big fan though...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5_AKjDdqaU

[jimxms]

I would give both of my testicles, one of my livers and various other non-essential body parts in order to own an LF-A.

It's very rare that a car manufacturer lives up to their slogans, but "the persuit for perfection" pretty much sums up this car exactly.

[ZesPak]

St John Smythe said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5_AKjDdqaU

In it's defence, on launch, there was no Aventador or MPFourDashTwelveC, and the Veyron looks like it hit every rock in it's way down fugly canyon .

[Dagnut]

ZesPak said:

St John Smythe said:

I'm not sure if I get this. Surely the very basic requirements of a supercar is power, speed and looks? The LFA sort of falls shorts on all of these although the sound of it is glorious.

"falls short" is a bit of an overstatement imho.

Stat	LFA	Murci	Zonda S
Top speed	202mph	205mph	208mph
0-62mph	3.7 sec	3.8 sec	3.7
Power	560bhp	631bhp	540bhp

All-in-all, what's .1 of a sec or 3 mph?

I think looks and sound are more important, and it does have the sound. The looks are subjective, I'm a big fan though...

More appropriately

Stat	LFA	458	12c
Top speed	202mph	202mph	208mph
0-62mph	3.7 sec	3.4 sec	3.2
Power	560bhp	570bhp	592bhp
Price	350k	180k	170k

[k-ink]

That sound is awesome! I need a V10

[anonymous-user]

ZesPak said:

St John Smythe said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5_AKjDdqaU

In it's defence, on launch, there was no Aventador or MPFourDashTwelveC, and the Veyron looks like it hit every rock in it's way down fugly canyon .

Have to agree on the Veyron, it looks awful compared to the rest. That Aventador is something else however and 140k less than the LFA!

[ZesPak]

Dagnut said:

More appropriately

Stat	LFA	458	12c
Top speed	202mph	202mph	208mph
0-62mph	3.7 sec	3.4 sec	3.2
Power	560bhp	570bhp	592bhp
Price	350k	180k	170k

TBH the two new top trumps (458 and 12c) make just about anything on the market look slow .

Funny thing is, when a Jap car claims it's not all about sheer numbers, but also feel and responsiveness (Twin turbo V8 vs NA V10) everybody goes on about the numbers (LFA). When a Jap cars goes after the numbers and beats just about anything, people claim that there's more about cars than numbers (GT-R). Seems to me they just can't win.

So I'll stop here and just claim it's about the badge more than anything else.

[GTRene]

its a high tech supercar...

but I don't think it only will go up...to me its more a to fast to furious look car if you know what I mean.

yes its 'perfect' and high tech and pretty rare, but thats it, for me it doesn't have the 'I want' factor.

[ZesPak]

GTRene said:

to me its more a to fast to furious look car if you know what I mean.

To be correct, it's more a "fast five" car, but I know what you mean.

[f328nvl]

Hellbound said:

Maybe you're one of those types who stockpiles tinned food and owns 5 generators and a massive tank of fuel.

What else can you stockpile things in other than tins? Ever tried a holocausts worth of baked beans in a paper bag? And yes I have a large tank of fuel, it is attached to a Ferrari which I am hoping will outrun the four horsemen of the apocalypse, who, knowing my luck will be in bloody Lexus, but trying not to drive it too much in case it depreciates.

Remember Jungle.com, Boo.com, Webvan? No, me neither.

[Dagnut]

ZesPak said:

TBH the two new top trumps (458 and 12c) make just about anything on the market look slow .

Funny thing is, when a Jap car claims it's not all about sheer numbers, but also feel and responsiveness (Twin turbo V8 vs NA V10) everybody goes on about the numbers (LFA). When a Jap cars goes after the numbers and beats just about anything, people claim that there's more about cars than numbers (GT-R).

I agree with you, it's not just about the numbers...but all the talk of engineering excellence relates to manufacturing processes not to actual improvements to the cars dynamics, namely the weight.

Why go to all the trouble of making a compact V10, which weighs less then a V6, new composite materials etc when the car weighs in at the same as it's rivals which are slighter bigger and cost half as much?
The engineering may be amazing but what has it really delivered?

Toyota may have produced an incredible weaving machine, but in reality what does it matter if Mclaren are producing a similar tub by using magic pixies...the result is the same...the only difference being MClaren are not charging you for the privilege of improving their manufactuering processes.

[marcgti6]

One of my favourite Supercars of all time. An LFA is definitely very near to the top of my 'must by when I win the Euro millions' list!

[jimxms]

I always chuckle at these arguments. People on these forums still act like the LF-A is yet to arrive and are making comments on the power to performance, lap times and other crap as if they could actually afford one and are seeking justification why they should pruchase one.

Lexus made a supercar. Its a tech marvel, but not a performance one. It makes a lot of lovely noises, but it has reasonably reserved looks. It costs a fk load more than other supercars, BUT GUESS WHAT....PEOPLE WITH MONEY BOUGHT IT.

Get over it already.

If I had £1mill laying around I'd tell Ferrari, Lamborghini, Mclaren & Nissan to get bent. The LF-A is the car that I want, and I'd put a square 50,000 miles on it every year for the next ten years until the engine may....just may...finally retire.

[kambites]

Andy665 said:

The weight distribution was actually 48% front / 52% rear so why not stick with a front engine layout

Static weight distribution is far less important than polar moment of inertia, which tends to be substantially higher with front-engined cars (which is, of course, why they are more benign on the limit).

[kambites]

jimxms said:

If I had £1mill laying around I'd tell Ferrari, Lamborghini, Mclaren & Nissan to get bent. The LF-A is the car that I want, and I'd put a square 50,000 miles on it every year for the next ten years until the engine may....just may...finally retire.

I don't really understand why, but the LFA is the only supercar to appeal to me in the slightest since the F1.

Having said that, I'm not sure I'd ever spend that much on a car except as an investment.

[chiefski26]

Watched the nat geo supercars lfa episode on sky - wow the attention to detail in the manufacture of this supercar is second to none if you have not seen it please do so - a legendary car.

[anonymous-user]

jimxms said:

I always chuckle at these arguments. People on these forums still act like the LF-A is yet to arrive and are making comments on the power to performance, lap times and other crap as if they could actually afford one and are seeking justification why they should pruchase one.

Lexus made a supercar. Its a tech marvel, but not a performance one. It makes a lot of lovely noises, but it has reasonably reserved looks. It costs a fk load more than other supercars, BUT GUESS WHAT....PEOPLE WITH MONEY BOUGHT IT.

Get over it already.

If I had £1mill laying around I'd tell Ferrari, Lamborghini, Mclaren & Nissan to get bent. The LF-A is the car that I want, and I'd put a square 50,000 miles on it every year for the next ten years until the engine may....just may...finally retire.

I think it's a classic case of the Brits loving the underdog. The LFA isn't as pretty as the competition, it isn't as fast and for some wierd reason it costs a lot more but a lot of people actually love it for these very facts

[jimxms]

kambites said:

I don't really understand why, but the LFA is the only supercar to appeal to me in the slightest since the F1.

I think thats exactly the point. You don't need justification for picking a specific supercar, you just pick the one that appeals most/stirs the most emotion.

[addlepated]

Whilst the Lexus brand doesn't exactly make me think "Supercar" if you think of it as a Huayra for less than 50% it kind of makes sense and fits the Lexus ethos. Stunning bit of kit and an amazing sound. That fast lap of the 'ring has a good soundtrack - pity about the driver-cam box in the top corner - it obscures some great entry/exit footage. not being picky but I reckon there's at least another 0.25 sec available in the carousel.... :-)