Rant from a old guy

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EricE

1,945 posts

131 months

Saturday 3rd August 2013
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kotafey said:
This pisses me off so much. I had a Cayman at 26 and got exactly the same thing on occasion. Have since changed it to an A5 which is more or less invisible. Now thinking about a 911 as an only car but the possibility of abuse is in the back of my mind. It shouldn't be a factor in deciding what car to get.

Anyway, I think there's a separate thread about that smile
It is strange, isn't it? I’m the same age as you and sometimes drive around in my fathers early 911S or Miura.
When I do, I consciously head out of the city for the empty roads on the fastest way possible because people seem to drive extremely aggressive around me, ride my bumper, give me the finger for no reason, etc. All I want to do is enjoy the car!

The only fun part about it is stopping next to a "car guy" wanting to "race" at the stop lights. I always rev the engine in anticipation of the green light. Then the guy takes off at full throttle while I leisurely start rolling and he ends up looking like a total idiot. biggrin

Would you mind sending me a link to that thread? I’d love to read how other people experience this...


Edited by EricE on Saturday 3rd August 16:23

TheAngryDog

12,421 posts

211 months

Saturday 3rd August 2013
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big h h said:
Hi Guys, does anybody get same the problem as me. I have just reached the grand old age of sixty six, i have owened and driven TVRs of all types for the last thirty years, but over the last year or so have come across the same reaction from young guys.
One day i was sitting at the traffic light,when a young guy pulled up along side me in his corse,lowered his window and called me a old w....r for no reason.
Today i got out of my car at Tescos and got the same reaction from a group of teenage lads, why!!!

The car is a 95 Chimaera, which is worth less than some new hothatch, i dont try to out drag them or us it's impressive noise in filling stations for effect, so why?.

Do they think i should drive a Rover 75 or maybe a wheelchair.
Haven't read all the thread (yet), but if I saw someone like you getting out of your car, I'd give you a nod of respect and approval!

Fubar1977

916 posts

142 months

Saturday 3rd August 2013
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petrolsniffer said:
kotafey said:
Now thinking about a 911 as an only car but the possibility of abuse is in the back of my mind. It shouldn't be a factor in deciding what car to get.

Anyway, I think there's a separate thread about that smile
Please please don't let it put you off!

If I was lucky enough to be in such a position I wouldn't hesitate over such issues.

I'd love to get abused hurled at me in a 911 as then it's fair game to give something back and leave a nice set of 11's in their wake.
I rather be abused in a 911 than ignored in an Audi, any day.
Buy what YOU want and don`t let the jealous scumbags put you off.

VidalBaboon

9,074 posts

217 months

Saturday 3rd August 2013
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Stu R said:
Were you wking at the time?
busted

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 3rd August 2013
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VidalBaboon said:
busted
That's the funniest user name I've seen in ages!

VidalBaboon

9,074 posts

217 months

Saturday 3rd August 2013
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wormus said:
VidalBaboon said:
busted
That's the funniest user name I've seen in ages!
Born of casting a similar shadow to the missing link and driving a hairdresser's car (MG F)smile

traffman

2,263 posts

211 months

Saturday 3rd August 2013
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We commented on an elederly chap's Tvr a few weeks past as he rumbled past in the car park , we nodded and my colleague gave the older guy a note of appreciation.

The TVR owner looked up and said its a granny magnet! His wife did not look too amused!

kotafey

242 posts

183 months

Saturday 3rd August 2013
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EricE said:
kotafey said:
This pisses me off so much. I had a Cayman at 26 and got exactly the same thing on occasion. Have since changed it to an A5 which is more or less invisible. Now thinking about a 911 as an only car but the possibility of abuse is in the back of my mind. It shouldn't be a factor in deciding what car to get.

Anyway, I think there's a separate thread about that smile
It is strange, isn't it? I’m the same age as you and sometimes drive around in my fathers early 911S or Miura.
When I do, I consciously head out of the city for the empty roads on the fastest way possible because people seem to drive extremely aggressive around me, ride my bumper, give me the finger for no reason, etc. All I want to do is enjoy the car!

The only fun part about it is stopping next to a "car guy" wanting to "race" at the stop lights. I always rev the engine in anticipation of the green light. Then the guy takes off at full throttle while I leisurely start rolling and he ends up looking like a total idiot. biggrin

Would you mind sending me a link to that thread? I’d love to read how other people experience this...


Edited by EricE on Saturday 3rd August 16:23
I think it's called "People's attitudes to nice cars". Lurking about somewhere on the first couple of pages of GG.

kotafey

242 posts

183 months

Saturday 3rd August 2013
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Fubar1977 said:
petrolsniffer said:
kotafey said:
Now thinking about a 911 as an only car but the possibility of abuse is in the back of my mind. It shouldn't be a factor in deciding what car to get.

Anyway, I think there's a separate thread about that smile
Please please don't let it put you off!

If I was lucky enough to be in such a position I wouldn't hesitate over such issues.

I'd love to get abused hurled at me in a 911 as then it's fair game to give something back and leave a nice set of 11's in their wake.
I rather be abused in a 911 than ignored in an Audi, any day.
Buy what YOU want and don`t let the jealous scumbags put you off.
I hear what you're saying and I agree with that approach, in theory. But in practice it's sometimes easier to drive something less noticeable and avoid the hassle in the first place. It shouldn't be like that, but it's the truth.

I'm quite happy to be ignored, as long as I'm enjoying what I'm driving. Audi is quite good at performance cars which don't attract too much attention, because they look very similar to their numerous 2.0 TDI counterparts. Unfortunately, to my knowledge, most mid or rear engined performance cars tend to be quite shouty in appearance. A slate grey 911 is probably the most reserved example I can think of.

KM666

1,757 posts

185 months

Saturday 3rd August 2013
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I know exactly the sorts of people OP is talking about. There was a 10 plate 1.2 corsa parked outside my dads place yesterday, sat there for about half an hour with the engine running as a lad who looked no older than 18 and his mates ate their tescos sandwiches and threw the wrappers out the window. With the elderly neighbours tending to the front garden at the time too, shamelessly dropping litter. The car regually pulls up around here too. I'm 23 and fear that if I were to wade in to teach the kid some respect i'd go too far and get in trouble myself.


Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

248 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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Fubar1977 said:
I rather be abused in a 911 than ignored in an Audi, any day.
Buy what YOU want and don`t let the jealous scumbags put you off.
^^^^ This, this and this. driving

MGJohn

10,203 posts

185 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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big h h said:
Hi Guys, does anybody get same the problem as me. I have just reached the grand old age of sixty six, i have owened and driven TVRs of all types for the last thirty years, but over the last year or so have come across the same reaction from young guys.
One day i was sitting at the traffic light,when a young guy pulled up along side me in his corse,lowered his window and called me a old w....r for no reason.
Today i got out of my car at Tescos and got the same reaction from a group of teenage lads, why!!!

The car is a 95 Chimaera, which is worth less than some new hothatch, i dont try to out drag them or us it's impressive noise in filling stations for effect, so why?.

Do they think i should drive a Rover 75 or maybe a wheelchair.
66 .... Listen up young whipper-snapper. Yes, get a Rover 75 or MG ZT 260 and be done with it. Ideally the V8 version with a highly polished Zimmer Frame obviously placed alongside on the passenger seat. .... So uncool its well cool.

When the tarted up hatch pulls up alongside and the yoof driver gives you the w.....r hand shake, leave them for dead when my favourite colour comes up .. smile This old git will never tire of doing that ... wink

Fast approaching 72, last month I bought the first soft-top two seater since the last one I owned back in the early 1970s... a delight to again sample top down motoring in the recent fine weather. Been using it a lot lately and no such antics from youngsters ... so far. Time will tell.

AlexRS2782

8,074 posts

215 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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I don't understand some peoples attitudes towards their age & the car they drive.

About 2 weeks ago when I went shopping I parked up a few cars down from, what I discovered was, a classic vintage Austin Ascot 12/4. Beautiful condition, clearly had loads of £££ spent on restoration, paintwork, interior was stunning smile While I was giving it a look over the gent who owned it, in his mid 80's, returned to the car & actually seemed surprised that someone my age (33) was interested in his pride & joy.

Spent the next 20 minutes having a chat about his car, what he'd done to it over restoration wise, etc smile Sad thing is most people didn't even give the car a second glance frown

Birdster

2,532 posts

145 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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VidalBaboon said:
Birdster said:
VidalBaboon said:
LooneyTunes said:
Pretty much the coolest thing I've seen was a chap in his 70s+ struggling a little to get out of his 911.

Seeing him you just knew that there was petrol coursing through his veins and there was no way on this earth that he'd trade down to a Micra (or whatever old people are supposed to drive).

I fully intend to emulate his "two finger salute" to ageing, and respectfully suggest that you should continue to do the same.

The chap of a similar vintage who I've seen doing track days in his 7 (or similar), albeit slightly off the pace, with his wife in the passenger seat perhaps edges him to the #1 spot.

Edited by LooneyTunes on Friday 2nd August 20:59

This picture cropped up on a friend's FB page. The amount of bilge & apparent jealousy that came out was unreal. frown

Just an old boy enjoying his time in a proper motor.
Respectfully he might have always had the means to run such a car, or he's lost his wife, supported his children and now that they've set themselves up he's enjoying himself in a small place, but with a nice car. Why can't they just let him be? I take it you didn't try to reason with those on FB, as generally you can't make them people see sense.
For the very reasons you've mentioned, Missus Baboon said not to bother & de-friend.
Nice one. clap

Spare tyre

9,754 posts

132 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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I'm young and drive an odd latge car for my age, get a bit abuse from young cretins. Drive girlfriends fiesta and I go unnoticed.

Drive my jimny and get odd reactions from all

I think it jus boils down to feral jealousy where If they can't have something nice it's not fair that you can

Petrolhead95

7,043 posts

156 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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Unfortunately most of my generation and disrespectful bds - just the other day I got called a dirty mothers for not buying a 13 year old girl some cigarettes. Lovely.

LuS1fer

41,180 posts

247 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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It is no defence to these toe-rags but it has to be said that envy has increased proportionally with spiralling insurance premiums. Now cars like these are largely way beyond the younger generation who, regrettably, have been taught that "must have it right now" mentality.

matchmaker

8,527 posts

202 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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It's attitude - not age. I'm of an age now (55) where I increasingly despair of many of my fellow old farts who have resigned themselves to a slow decay into their "twilight years". This seems to consist in many cases of driving at 40mph on a straight, clear NSL road in perfect driving conditions in their Micra/Kia/insert vehicle of choice.

I however subscribe to the OP's way of thinking. I recently got my Octavia back on the road after a period in the garage getting various repairs done (suspension links and bushes - speed humps! furious ). I have had many pleasant blasts recently and the next stage is deciding how to make it go even faster! biggrin

dbdb

4,342 posts

175 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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There is a lot of pent up resentment in the UK which can spill out like this and spoil your day. I think it flows from the very wide gap in the UK between rich and poor (by European standards), together with a substantial tranche of people who feel effectively excluded, with no legal means of achieving a TVR or any other expensive car that they can see. This doesn't excuse their various behaviours, but it goes some way towards trying to understand them.

Less explicable (at least for me) is the UK's other obsession - that with age. Sixty six is hardly old; I consider it to be 'middle age' - not that the term has much real meaning. British people seem obsessed with defining themselves through their birth date - often negatively - to a much greater extent than people in many other countries in my experience.


vanman1936

771 posts

221 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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I remember a 80 plus guy who used to live near me with a Spec C Impreza (I think) - quality!

As other said - stupid ferrel muppets!