£490 road tax, does it put you off?
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dave_s13 said:
Move to Ireland (no actually, don't) then you can moan about car tax.
My car over there (Ford Galaxy 2.3 petrol) would be £850!!! (£280 over here)
The Celica would be £538!!
Madness.
Isn't there a plan to make VED payable monthly? That will take the edge of it slightly but it still grates somewhat.
Try €1809pa on a '93 M5 or '03 CSL. It doesn't influence the cars I buy, but it does how often I drive them. That's why I lock them up in the winterMy car over there (Ford Galaxy 2.3 petrol) would be £850!!! (£280 over here)
The Celica would be £538!!
Madness.
Isn't there a plan to make VED payable monthly? That will take the edge of it slightly but it still grates somewhat.
And the government here are now openly saying that the only way to get people onto our (non-existent) public transport system is to tax us out of our cars!
It's a pyschological barrier for me.
If I was buying an Audi R8, V12 Vantage or Ferrari then I wouldn't let it bother me. Primarily because I want that car and nothing else will do.
For a more family orientated purchase, I actively avoid cars that fall into the £400+ tax group. This is mainly because there's so much choice that you can always find something decent that doesn't have the cost.
The early X5 E70 30ds fall into the higher tax band. The later ones don't. The purchase price is very similar so why would I choose to pay an extra £250 a year when I don't need to? Maybe that differences will extend to £300 or £400 in years to come. Who knows?
If I was buying an Audi R8, V12 Vantage or Ferrari then I wouldn't let it bother me. Primarily because I want that car and nothing else will do.
For a more family orientated purchase, I actively avoid cars that fall into the £400+ tax group. This is mainly because there's so much choice that you can always find something decent that doesn't have the cost.
The early X5 E70 30ds fall into the higher tax band. The later ones don't. The purchase price is very similar so why would I choose to pay an extra £250 a year when I don't need to? Maybe that differences will extend to £300 or £400 in years to come. Who knows?
My car is mainly a toy for the weekends, so I see the VED as part of the total running costs. The VED price was known before I bought the car, so I factored it into the "Can I afford to run it?" calculation.
Obviously paying out in one big hit isn't great, but now there's the DD option it shoud be less of an issue for people.
Obviously paying out in one big hit isn't great, but now there's the DD option it shoud be less of an issue for people.
It's not actually the cost, it's the principle.
Most cars in a lower VED category do 99% of what a car in these categories do so it's largely just burning your money. It may not be a GREAT amount but I can buy something else if I don't have to pay it. It's just dead money.
I already pay 40% tax so my view is they can just f*** off.
Most cars in a lower VED category do 99% of what a car in these categories do so it's largely just burning your money. It may not be a GREAT amount but I can buy something else if I don't have to pay it. It's just dead money.
I already pay 40% tax so my view is they can just f*** off.
It didn't put me off buying mine - the fact it came with 5 mtgs tax helped to soften the blow, and I just included it in my calculations of the running costs before buying. It probably also made the car a bit cheaper to buy as so many are put off! However I fully expect that a few years down the line when I fancy a change and the tax has probably gone up to £600 a year that I will probably have to virtually give the car away
Yes it does put me off, I drive a 4 litre v8 although a boring one, and pay 200 and something pounds which I don`t mind. I don`t use my car very often as I either walk or cycle to work, I really wouldn`t want to part with almost £500 a year, I would rather put it towards a holiday, so in the future I will probably switch to a small hatchback. Although after getting a lift in my colleagues mini cooper today and fearing for my spine due to the ride quality I may well reconsider.
B3ALP said:
Your name is not officially "PEDANTIC NERD" but honestly it's what we all call you.
Now shoo....
brilliant........Now shoo....
goes back to thread hoping no further attempts at derailment
oh and yes it puts me off, to a point but as another phr earlier said while there are alternatives I can easily avoid iit
Definitely for a family car it is a big turn off. If you keep it for 5 years that is a lot of money.
I was looking at 2006 XC90 D5s, after March 2006 they are £475 I think, late 2006 manuals sneak under but are rare. The big deal is the 2006 MY ones got a 185PS engine so I'm on the lookout for a 6-month sweetspot car.
I was looking at 2006 XC90 D5s, after March 2006 they are £475 I think, late 2006 manuals sneak under but are rare. The big deal is the 2006 MY ones got a 185PS engine so I'm on the lookout for a 6-month sweetspot car.
When I was looking for a B8 S4 at the start of the year it was annoying to find it was in the band L.
This was made worse by the fact that it was only just in band L by about 5 or so g/km, and even worse by the fact that the auto/semi auto version was in band K as the emissions were about 10 g/km less!
Guess who wanted a manual?
Still bought the one with three pedals
Given Audi's reputation with auto boxes I'm hoping the £4 a week will pay off long term.
That aside I do think that this tax break will be very bad for this car in the future when its value has fallen.
This was made worse by the fact that it was only just in band L by about 5 or so g/km, and even worse by the fact that the auto/semi auto version was in band K as the emissions were about 10 g/km less!
Guess who wanted a manual?
Still bought the one with three pedals
Given Audi's reputation with auto boxes I'm hoping the £4 a week will pay off long term.
That aside I do think that this tax break will be very bad for this car in the future when its value has fallen.
It does yes.
I've had a few cars in this tax band and it's a painful experience shelling out that
Much in yet more tax.
But I that's what it takes to have a post 2006 car with big performance then I will pay it - no way Am I having an oil burning 2.0 Derv rattle box instead of a proper 300+ bhp petrol turbo!
I've had a few cars in this tax band and it's a painful experience shelling out that
Much in yet more tax.
But I that's what it takes to have a post 2006 car with big performance then I will pay it - no way Am I having an oil burning 2.0 Derv rattle box instead of a proper 300+ bhp petrol turbo!
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