RE: Chevrolet Camaro: Driven
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No 300bhp, but they still get paid about the same minimum (or better but equivalent) wage as in the the UK, so a cheap car out there is still a cheap car. Add in 45 pence a litre fuel plus mostly free parking and motoring is much cheaper in the USA whether you work at KFC or Smith Kline as a director.
The Camaro is a breath of fresh air among computer designed coupes and saloons that all look the freaking same nowadays, pretty much!
The Camaro is a breath of fresh air among computer designed coupes and saloons that all look the freaking same nowadays, pretty much!
Ozzie Osmond said:
Yup, here's a completed engine, showing the empty space over which Jag extend the plastic engine cover to hide the two missing cylinders,
Every time I see that picture it makes my teeth itch. No Jaguar, just no. That would be a bit iffy on some mass market V6 version of a s
tbox that sells for £25k, in a range of cars that STARTS at £57k I think you have a right to expect less bodge-y engineering. For my money at that level "good enough" is simply not good enough.Luckily for JLR most people buying even very expensive sports cars are more concerned with the range of colours available for the contrast stiching on the seats than in the engineering and design of the powerplant.
Edited by dme123 on Sunday 15th November 14:57
dme123 said:
Every time I see that picture it makes my teeth itch. No Jaguar, just no. That would be a bit iffy on some mass market V6 version of a stbox that sells for £25k, in a range of cars that STARTS at £57k I think you have a right to expect less bodge-y engineering. For my money at that level "good enough" is simply not good enough.
Luckily for JLR most people buying even very expensive sports cars are more concerned with the range of colours available for the contrast stiching on the seats than in the engineering and design of the powerplant.
How does it affect the operation or durability of the engine or how the car drives or functions?tbox that sells for £25k, in a range of cars that STARTS at £57k I think you have a right to expect less bodge-y engineering. For my money at that level "good enough" is simply not good enough.Luckily for JLR most people buying even very expensive sports cars are more concerned with the range of colours available for the contrast stiching on the seats than in the engineering and design of the powerplant.
Edited by dme123 on Sunday 15th November 14:57
Jimmy Recard said:
How does it affect the operation or durability of the engine or how the car drives or functions?
Well if they'd designed a V6 which was shorter than the V8, they presumably could have shifted it back in the engine bay to reduce the moment of inertia a bit. Ultimately engineering is always about compromise, though. If they'd scratch-designed a V6 the car would either have cost more or been later to market. I don't see a problem with what they did and it wouldn't put me off buying the car.
RoverP6B said:
I've said this repeatedly: Jaguar bodged that engine from their V8 because the supply of Ford V6s was drying up before the new Ingenium straight six was ready. The latter is on its way.
It has literally no relevance to my point that it matters not at all to the user whether it is derived from the V8 or not.PGNCerbera said:
there are a pair of white ones near me - coupe and a convertible. Both look bloated and a bit daft. And the interior leaves a lot to be desired.
It's a shame as they could be really cool cars.
this, on the other hand, makes me ache with want....
I'm more of a mustang person myself, but that just lovely. Compared to modern cars that just looks so right. I don't care if its sIt's a shame as they could be really cool cars.
this, on the other hand, makes me ache with want....
Edited by PGNCerbera on Tuesday 27th October 14:39
t to drive, thats part of the charm and it has a place in my lottery win garage.I wouldn't have thought reliability would suffer. The old Buick 3.8 V6 was bodged out of their 4.9 V8 in similar fashion and that's famous for its durability... but a 90-degree V6 will always be a crude device, incapable of being balanced even by the use of balancer shafts as is usual for 60-degree V6s. The only way you can balance six cylinders is with them inline or horizontally opposed, otherwise you're going to get noticeable vibration. A V12, on the other hand, is perfectly balanced no matter what its bank angle.
RoverP6B said:
I wouldn't have thought reliability would suffer. The old Buick 3.8 V6 was bodged out of their 4.9 V8 in similar fashion and that's famous for its durability... but a 90-degree V6 will always be a crude device, incapable of being balanced even by the use of balancer shafts as is usual for 60-degree V6s. The only way you can balance six cylinders is with them inline or horizontally opposed, otherwise you're going to get noticeable vibration. A V12, on the other hand, is perfectly balanced no matter what its bank angle.
Yes, all V6's (ever) are 'crude devices'You don't half talk some s
t. 
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