Massive rise in P plates
Discussion
jwilliamsm3 said:
It's always nervous crap drivers that put them on, like wearing a dunce cap. Why put one on when there's no law requiring you do so
Maybe they're aware of their lack of confidence and want others to realise they're a new driver so to cut them a bit of slack. Most drivers don't pass their test and then become great drivers immediately, in fact most don't make it past being an average driver at best. It's not always a bad thing that someone recognises that and feels that they want the P plate for their first few months.
Alex_225 said:
jwilliamsm3 said:
It's always nervous crap drivers that put them on, like wearing a dunce cap. Why put one on when there's no law requiring you do so
Maybe they're aware of their lack of confidence and want others to realise they're a new driver so to cut them a bit of slack. Most drivers don't pass their test and then become great drivers immediately, in fact most don't make it past being an average driver at best. It's not always a bad thing that someone recognises that and feels that they want the P plate for their first few months.
Loads of people are a 6 or 7 out of 10 but think they are a 9 or 10. They are the ones who will crash. A nervous crap driver who is a 2 or 3 and knows they are a 2 or 3 will be fine. P plates are a sure sign that someone realises they're not that good yet. I'd rather be a passenger with them than some t
t who is just an ok driver but thinks they're a driving god. I'm with the OP in that I see a lot of them.
I'm 100% NOT with the OP as I think they're useful, and are (I assume) put on by people who have just passed and maybe aren't 100% confident or getting used to it.
I give L and P plates a hell of a lot more space and tolerance than other cars (e.g. if they stall at a light, and I miss a whole green light, it's fine). I'd also be more inclined to overtake them during the commute, but once again, with a lot more space.
Even us driving gods don't need to be dicks to those trying to learn (and you don't stop learning as soon as you've got a test pass).
It's bad enough as it is out there.
I just think what a plonker I am when I'm trying to ski or some other activity where I'm a complete numpty, and I don't think it'd be particularly nice if you're trying to learn while others are hurling unnecessary abuse at you!
I'm 100% NOT with the OP as I think they're useful, and are (I assume) put on by people who have just passed and maybe aren't 100% confident or getting used to it.
I give L and P plates a hell of a lot more space and tolerance than other cars (e.g. if they stall at a light, and I miss a whole green light, it's fine). I'd also be more inclined to overtake them during the commute, but once again, with a lot more space.
Even us driving gods don't need to be dicks to those trying to learn (and you don't stop learning as soon as you've got a test pass).
It's bad enough as it is out there.
I just think what a plonker I am when I'm trying to ski or some other activity where I'm a complete numpty, and I don't think it'd be particularly nice if you're trying to learn while others are hurling unnecessary abuse at you!
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Alex_225 said:
jwilliamsm3 said:
It's always nervous crap drivers that put them on, like wearing a dunce cap. Why put one on when there's no law requiring you do so
Maybe they're aware of their lack of confidence and want others to realise they're a new driver so to cut them a bit of slack. Most drivers don't pass their test and then become great drivers immediately, in fact most don't make it past being an average driver at best. It's not always a bad thing that someone recognises that and feels that they want the P plate for their first few months.
Loads of people are a 6 or 7 out of 10 but think they are a 9 or 10. They are the ones who will crash. A nervous crap driver who is a 2 or 3 and knows they are a 2 or 3 will be fine. P plates are a sure sign that someone realises they're not that good yet. I'd rather be a passenger with them than some t
t who is just an ok driver but thinks they're a driving god. I would say that a good road user, will be by default a safe driver. Ability to control a car and road sense aren't always related as I'm sure we all know.
Being cynical I have suspicions people are putting P plates on to cover up bad driving through phone use, mild intoxication, other distractions...
I think they are a good idea and hate the idea that people drive worse around cars with P plates... wtf. I always give learners, L plates, P plates a bit more space (I already give a lot of space so it isn't much different) and useful to be prepared for perhaps hasty or badly done manoeuvres.
I think they are a good idea and hate the idea that people drive worse around cars with P plates... wtf. I always give learners, L plates, P plates a bit more space (I already give a lot of space so it isn't much different) and useful to be prepared for perhaps hasty or badly done manoeuvres.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Somewhatfoolish said:
Bobupndown said:
Here in Northern Ireland when you pass your driving test you automatically have to display orange R plates, R for Restricted driver for a year, still limited to 45 mph the same as learners. Gives newly passed drivers experience driving on their own but still speed limited and let's other drivers be aware that the driver has limited experience. I think it's a sensible idea.
Learners are restricted to 45mph? I think that's an absolutely insane idea personally. As is restricting those who passed their test and may have not even driven on one before to 45mph on a motorway. Going to learn all sorts of terrible habits. And to what cohort do you then compare them to?
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