Car scrapping incentive

[EDLT]

This is just another way to get people into debt. They'll see their old car and think "I could get a new one and I won't have to pay the deposit!" And not about how they are going to make the monthly payments.

[French]

cheesesliceking said:

Welshbeef said:

Mr POD said:

Why would you want to scrap a car JUST because it's old ?

I paid £40 for a 1985 car, and ran it for 3.5 years and 60K miles. I wish I'd kept it.

Thats the point you can choose to do so if you want to IT IS NOT COMPULSORY.

I guess many people are skim reading all the posts.

I skim read most of your posts as you're a post whoring troll who loves the attention and skim reading as as much as you deserve.

Fecking Aye +1

Hang on ,how can he say this

Welshbeef said:

If someone cannot afford £200.. they shouldnt have a car.

When in this thread he says his car is worth about £400 as he trys to fiddle an Mot ??
http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t...

Welshbeef said:

OK I have bought a plug in fan/heater (but frankly it has the power or a mouse with a cold it has 200W and if its on Heat and fast there is a slight output of heat - note zero chance of clearing a frosty screen, but if you move it round a misty screen given ten minutes it can clear it.

So I guess just leave it plugged in and FINGERS crossed!
Have checked the fuse and its fine but it has never worked since buying the car (didnt check as it was middle of summer) new fan would be £200 ish car worth around that much maybe £400 value. Was thinking this coming weekend to see if I can bodge up a cable from the battery direct to the fan to see if it works or not (basically to see if its the switch or the fan or connection between the 2 thats the problem).

Then if the fan does work have it set up to a switch under the steering wheel whereby its either off or Fully on & leave it pointing up to the screen to clear.

Note when driving along at say 30mph + and the engine is warm it clears the screen just by airflow and the cabin can get quite hot its just in stationary traffic or first thing/last thing at night when its been sat and the screen is frozen/misty.

Aside from that the car is fine - just thinking there is really only a few weeks maybe a month of cold weather left then it will be fine and clear and will last through the summer but then plan to change it come late Autumn.

So on one hand he wants to keep his old deathtrap on the road but on the other he's promoting get the older car's off the road ?? my god what a mixed up sad pratt you are .

Edited by French on Thursday 12th February 00:32

[Welshbeef]

French - sadly you didnt read my posts.

I posted up a link about the potential issue to the UK & another link posted below. So please respond to the links and what it would mean to you.

Again I think you missed the point I said ITS NOT COMPULSARY. I choose to keep my £400 car 3rd car on the road due to the fact in the UK we do not get paid £600 min on scrap value if we would I'd chop in 2 and get £1.2k instantly. Instead were in a climate where you get £30 scrap value.

http://autocar.co.uk/blogs/anythinggoes/archive/20...

[Marquis_Rex]

Welshbeef said:

French - sadly you didnt read my posts.

I posted up a link about the potential issue to the UK & another link posted below. So please respond to the links and what it would mean to you.

Again I think you missed the point I said ITS NOT COMPULSARY. I choose to keep my £400 car 3rd car on the road due to the fact in the UK we do not get paid £600 min on scrap value if we would I'd chop in 2 and get £1.2k instantly. Instead were in a climate where you get £30 scrap value.

http://autocar.co.uk/blogs/anythinggoes/archive/20...

£400 for that Ugly Bangle designed Fiat sounds a bit steep!

[Welshbeef]

Marquis_Rex said:

Welshbeef said:

French - sadly you didnt read my posts.

I posted up a link about the potential issue to the UK & another link posted below. So please respond to the links and what it would mean to you.

Again I think you missed the point I said ITS NOT COMPULSARY. I choose to keep my £400 car 3rd car on the road due to the fact in the UK we do not get paid £600 min on scrap value if we would I'd chop in 2 and get £1.2k instantly. Instead were in a climate where you get £30 scrap value.

http://autocar.co.uk/blogs/anythinggoes/archive/20...

£400 for that Ugly Bangle designed Fiat sounds a bit steep!

lol nope thats the wrong 1 of the 3.

[French]

I have not missed the point at all, you are running around in a car that should not have passed its mot !! Simple you tard!

[Welshbeef]

French said:

I have not missed the point at all, you are running around in a car that should not have passed its mot !! Simple you tard!

Oh - I fixed that little problem, the fan now works like new. Added a switch to the dash - also as I checked up its not an MOT requirement either but I am glad its repaired as it was mighty cold in the car.
Thanks for reminding about this as I wanted to announce the repair - although had you checked the engine & drivetrain forum you'd have seen in there that I had asked for advice and then followed said advice result problem fixed.

Nice of you to keep a track of my posts - glad your thinking of me :P

[sniff diesel]

Welshbeef said:

Instead were in a climate where you get £30 scrap value.

It's gone back up a bit now, I got £36 for a 400kgs shell 2 weeks ago.

[Welshbeef]

sniff diesel said:

Welshbeef said:

Instead were in a climate where you get £30 scrap value.

It's gone back up a bit now, I got £36 for a 400kgs shell 2 weeks ago.

Not sure what I'll do with her to be honest.
Mine is up for the MOT tomorrow so all being well another year Free motoring.
But in Mar/Apr the Volvo is up for its turn, Ive had a good look over it and serviced it the last week it seems in fine condition all the basics are tip top - but who knows.

If that passes then I'll probably decide to get rid of the Rover with its HGF issue - just remembered its drivers side electric window doesnt work/stopped working same week as the HGF and thats an MOT failure... no MOT currently so HGF + window = not worth it. That aside its in very good nick for a 12 odd year old car. Its a shame that cost of repair will be so high vs its value to the point its not worth doing & its a run of the mill car which I guess is what this whole thread is all about. If it were say something special like a 205 GTI 1.9 HGF I guess it would have similar market value BUT with that car I'd get it repaired with a 1.4ltr 5 door Rover its pointless.

[youngsyr]

Well, this looks like it's on the cards now, so any predictions on what effect it will have?

I can see new car prices (the real ones you actually end up paying, not the listed ones) increasing by around £2,000 and a lot of taxpayer's money leaving the country bound for Germany, America, Japan, France, etc...

[tinman0]

youngsyr said:

Well, this looks like it's on the cards now, so any predictions on what effect it will have?

I can see new car prices (the real ones you actually end up paying, not the listed ones) increasing by around £2,000 and a lot of taxpayer's money leaving the country bound for Germany, America, Japan, France, etc...

Yeah, but they are still arguing who is going to pay for it, so not quite a done deal. The Treasury want the car manufacturers to stump up half but have asked them not to put prices up to cover their half (or stop some of the discounts). The car manufacturers are saying "give us the money - all of it now - or we fire everyone".

It's anyone's guess right now.

[900T-R]

Anyone seen the latest Sniff Petrol issue?

[sniff diesel]

Welshbeef said:

just remembered its drivers side electric window doesnt work/stopped working same week as the HGF and thats an MOT failure...

The window not working is not an MOT fail.

[Welshbeef]

sniff diesel said:

Welshbeef said:

just remembered its drivers side electric window doesnt work/stopped working same week as the HGF and thats an MOT failure...

The window not working is not an MOT fail.

That car has been scrapped.

[cheesesl1ceking]

oh goody the welsh fkwit is back, havent you got bored of this yet?

[Welshbeef]

cheesesl1ceking said:

oh goody the welsh fkwit is back, havent you got bored of this yet?

This is a crazy post - you have only been a member for 1 month. The last post on this before it was dug up happened a month before you had even joined PH...

As to have I got bored of this yet?Um the Budget is on the 22nd Apr09 and it now appears as I had suggested miht happen is going to happen in the UK. £2k cash incentive for cars >9 years old when you buy a new car from the Govt.

Now Im very confident that any W/X reg cars are far from needing the scrap yard as yet however say you had bought a Kia Picanto new 9 years ago that would have been £6k now probably worth a few £'00 but if you trade it into the govt scheme you get £2k... doenst take a geniou to realise that those who are considering changing cars would certainly jump on this band wagon - and if you dont just remmber that every new car bought (lower emmissions / regs associated with the tax rebate) you are paying some of your tax towards.

Sadly from your 2 posts on PH the second is derogatory I fear you probably just ome jumped up little scroat who wears a hoddie with baseball cap on under the hoddie when worn & jeans so baggy they hang down showing your pants.

I'll enjoy you pathetic retort to my response may brighten up my dull afternoon knowing that you gettng frustrated and keyboard bashing... "mmmust beat this other person on the web... grrr - sorry mummy will keep the noise down in my bedroom".

[LuS1fer]

I see Citroen have jumped on the bandwagon with a £2000 scrappage allowance on at least one of it's models but it's still expensive.

[Welshbeef]

LuS1fer said:

I see Citroen have jumped on the bandwagon with a £2000 scrappage allowance on at least one of it's models but it's still expensive.

Have to say if com next years MOT for the old Volvo Banger if it fails I'll probably take the govt's £2k and buy possibly a Kia Picanto for £6k opps sorry £4k after the discount then run that into the ground over as many years as is possible.

I'd like to know what the sliding sale will be i.e. is it £2k for a Range rover going o a citroen C1 & will there be some sort of govt sliding scale if you want to buy a up to 3 years old car?

Oh well only a week to go before we know how much potential buyers are going to get.

[danrc]

I wouldn't bother with a Kia. Buy cheap, buy twice. Get something decent and look after it rather than mess around with all of this incentive bks.

[Welshbeef]

danrc said:

I wouldn't bother with a Kia. Buy cheap, buy twice. Get something decent and look after it rather than mess around with all of this incentive bks.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/239506/

Depends what your after really. Anyone after say a fiesta/polo sized car then this makes a lot of sense.

1 person might want a 13 year old E36 M3 whereas someone else wants the security of zero miles & full warrany of a brand new car with the tax incentive and then run it for 9 years (into the ground) then repeat makes it a very cheap way into a new car if your planning on doing it anyway.