Shared components???

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bri_the_fly

177 posts

213 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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nsmith1180 said:
The main reason you dont find people like Vauxhall and Ford doing it is that off the shelf parts dont fit the "design language". for a super/hyper/ubercar manufacturer, its not as much of an issue, there language is QUICK, not fluid or kenetic or whatever other stupid buzzwords are out there now.

Im waiting to see Kia Picanto lights on a supercar now! Its going to happen!
The Fords n GMs (etc) just share all the inside bits that folks can't take pics of and say that part is from that car etc. (just like here!)
They launch a 'new' model. Set a budget for how much to spend on new parts (new expensive tooling) retooling assy plant etc the rest can be old parts just up the production. The new bits are always headlights, bonnet, front wings, rear lights etc, stuff that is immediately noticable by joe public. Which actually leaves not very much new!
My father-in-law used to rattle on about engines, loads of different cars have the same engine, but just put a different lid on the top.

TotalControl

8,113 posts

200 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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F1 uses the Corrado side mirrors, no? Or did I dream that up?

Twincam16

27,646 posts

260 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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Trommel said:


Not quite:



Not forgetting:




Matt Harper

6,642 posts

203 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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Share....


subsea99

464 posts

175 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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db9

keyfob -volvo
satnav-volvo
wing mirrors - xk8
key-ford mondeo

and im sure there will be a few other shared parts

Swarley

5,278 posts

233 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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LuS1fer said:
TVR Vixen used Cortina Mk 1 and Mk II rear lights



Early Lotus Elans used these Victor FB rear lights too:


and I believe the later FWD Elan used Corolla rear lights.
And the Lola Mk VI

Johnny Drama

220 posts

184 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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sean19 said:
I cant find decent enough pictures but Im sure early Chimaera (pre97) had Fiesta MK3 rear lights albeit behind smoked glass.
Correct and the indicator stalks came from the MK3 Cavalier / Calibra.

Silver Smudger

3,313 posts

169 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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Shares sidelights with -

Dracoro

8,705 posts

247 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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TotalControl said:
F1 uses the Corrado side mirrors, no? Or did I dream that up?
You must have dreamt about my post on the first page of this thread biggrin

Trommel

19,176 posts

261 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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Twincam16 said:
Trommel said:


Not quite:

You don't have to look very hard to see that you're wrong.

Ian974

2,955 posts

201 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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GKP said:
Designing the lights isn't expensive, making sure they are Type Approved is. Certainly prohibitive and a pointless expense for a low volume seller.
I'm guessing some of TVr's later designs are a way of getting around that possibly using some smaller generic lights with a more unusual cover?

To be honest, using full clusters does seem a bit lazy, I'd imagine there would be a way of creating something different with existing parts.

tossbag

1,590 posts

208 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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The reason so many smaller injection molded parts are shared is beacause of the insane cost to produce the tooling and molds for a part that is easily bought off the shelf.
Molds can cost 5 figures each to make.

Anyways...
Austin Rover 'those doors'

http://www.aronline.co.uk/index.htm?thosedoorsf.ht...

Cupramax

10,487 posts

254 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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Waugh-terfall said:
Audi A4 B7

SEAT Exeo

Audi A4 Cabriolet B6/B7

SEAT Exeo


Edited by Waugh-terfall on Monday 21st June 00:18
That isn't shared components. Audi just ripped the entire A4 B7 production line, dumped it at Martorell and let SEAT stick their badge on it with some new lights.

Trommel

19,176 posts

261 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2010
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Matt Harper said:








Share....

I've looked into this a bit previously.

They're the same family (MB 722.6/W5A580, Chrysler NAG1) ) but the SLR has a W5A900 (for 900 nM), not a version of a W5A580. The W5A900 is from the Maybach and apparently has a different bell housing, case, valve body, control system etc. The newer ones (722, 62 etc.) supposedly have a W5A1000 which has further differences.

The 997 Turbo Tiptronic also has a variant of the W5A580.

TotalControl

8,113 posts

200 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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Dracoro said:
TotalControl said:
F1 uses the Corrado side mirrors, no? Or did I dream that up?
You must have dreamt about my post on the first page of this thread biggrin
bks. I'll get me coat then. getmecoat

Lennaldo

89 posts

180 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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Supposedly these 2 share indidcators, unless you have clear lenses on the cerb in which case they are reversing light lenses from a defender.

Twincam16

27,646 posts

260 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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Trommel said:
Twincam16 said:
Trommel said:


Not quite:

You don't have to look very hard to see that you're wrong.
They're from Renault according to a C&SC article on the Virage from 2001.

Trommel

19,176 posts

261 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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Twincam16 said:
They're from Renault according to a C&SC article on the Virage from 2001.
I was going to suggest they give the sub-editor some overtime on your articles, but it actually says:

Article said:
While we're at it, let's admit to the VW Scirocco tail lights - and I'm sure if you peered at the back of the headlights you'd find "Renault" plastic-welded into the back of the bins
Which doesn't change the fact that they're from an Audi 200.

ZesPak

24,446 posts

198 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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Audi
VW
Seat
Skoda

HTH

LuS1fer

41,168 posts

247 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2010
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Door handles on a Mazda 5 are the same as on a 2005-9 Mustang.