Child Seat Advice

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Vladimir

6,917 posts

160 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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We have a rear facer (Britax Multi Tech) in the BM and while we battled with it for our first child (now almost 5) , we've just turned it to front facing for our second child - it meant a very tight squeeze in the front, we couldn't see the children, they weren't very comfortable in it and it was a PITA to install.

When I got it (before they were available here so it cost me a fortune to get it from Sweden) I preached like some stuck record but real life practicalities soon shut me up.

We have a front facing Britax Evolva in the camper.

lenats31

438 posts

175 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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Vladimir said:
We have a rear facer (Britax Multi Tech) in the BM and while we battled with it for our first child (now almost 5) , we've just turned it to front facing for our second child - it meant a very tight squeeze in the front, we couldn't see the children, they weren't very comfortable in it and it was a PITA to install.

When I got it (before they were available here so it cost me a fortune to get it from Sweden) I preached like some stuck record but real life practicalities soon shut me up.

We have a front facing Britax Evolva in the camper.
This is the downside of buying one over the internet (you did not have a choice tough). The availablity of these seats is bad today but horrible 5 years ago. You obviously got the wrong rearfacer for you and your children back then. (mirrors on headrests will solve the eye-contact issue). It can have serious consequenses as it can take the attention off the road, which is why this should allways be considered.

However, in all fairnes for the Multi-Tech, it isn´t a bad seat for every family.

How well it does in a car depends on a few factors. One of those is the steepness in the backseat - if it is placed there. It is a car seat that "needs" flat backseats in order that you get a good recline for the children. The steeper it is the less room for the child

The last time my son (now 6)sat in it was last year, and I placed in the front passenger seat with contact to the dashboard with the backrest reclined to give him room. too little room for him in the backseat.

Another one is how roomey the car passenger cabin is as well as how tall the adults in the front seats are. Quite a number of small cars have better room inside than big ones. Room for an adult my height (5ft 11") is the same in my mother´s Peugeot 207 as it is in a Volvo XC90. Not much room , but just enough. As for my previous car - Peugeot 307SW I had plenty of space in the front seat.

The seat most often isn´t the best choice for installtion in cars with long buckle stalks, which outs a lot of cars older than 10 years.





lenats31

438 posts

175 months

Tuesday 27th August 2013
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troc said:
Hello, according to various sciency pictures, blood tests and a wife who is changing shape and moaning about lost bellybuttons, we are due to have a child in December. Yay, etc smile

Car-wise, we have a MINI from 2003 (non-ISOFIX) and my Audi S4 from 2010 (ISOFIX everywhere except the drivers seat). We'd like to stick a "permanent" seat in the MINI as my wife prefers not to carry babies around in infant seats and would rather transfer the baby directly to a carrycot (we've found one that fits in the MINI boot). As such, we were hoping to find a seat we can use rear-facing when the baby is small/young and then turn around when it's older. Something like the Britax First Class Plus. My questions are thus, would one fit in the back of the MINI? (we can't switch off the passenger seat airbags) and what other options are there?

I refuse to bow to peer pressure and buy a ginormous people carrier just because I have one child - the MINI is perfect for driving and commuting in Holland.

For the Audi, I'll most probably fit an ISOFIX Recaro infant carrier, followed by matching car seat because Recaro smile
You don´t need a big car. I have seen proof of that many times over dealing with the bigger rearfacers such as the Multi-tech mentioned above.

Recaro seats are smaller than the others but I would say decent quality - considering a very recent car crash near Sindal in Denmark a few weeks ago A babyseat Recaro installed in the front passenger seat in a Citorén Berlingo involved in a what was thought to have been a 50 mph (80 km/h) side impact crash but turned out to be 80 mph (app 120 km/h).The oncoming car hit a sliding door in the back. The 5 month old in the Recaro broke a leg. Nothing else happend to him. His siblings aged 11, 9 and 3 years were scattered in the grass all dead. They were not in safety seats. The mother walked away.

knight

5,210 posts

281 months

Monday 2nd September 2013
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http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/...


Noticed these for sale and was wondering what the general consensus was on them?

boobles

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15,241 posts

217 months

Monday 2nd September 2013
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knight said:
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/...


Noticed these for sale and was wondering what the general consensus was on them?
They offer minimum protection for alot of money. A high back booster for £20 is far better without question.

CAH706

1,978 posts

166 months

Friday 27th September 2013
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Got a 3 series bmw on the way (saloon). It's the new model (f30).

Any recommendations for a seat for a 5 year old. Need something which fits and is safe!

Cheers

lenats31

438 posts

175 months

Saturday 28th September 2013
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CAH706 said:
Got a 3 series bmw on the way (saloon). It's the new model (f30).

Any recommendations for a seat for a 5 year old. Need something which fits and is safe!

Cheers
That would be a booster seat.

Besafe Izi Up X3 Fix
Britax:
http://www.britax.se/media/5285925/130918_typenlis...

I´m sure the other boosters from Britax will fit too

rswift

1,179 posts

177 months

Thursday 10th October 2013
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Hi, Can I pick your brains over this.

1 year old, just moving on to our next seat.

After having read some of the reports etc, definitely looking for a rear-facing seat, my Wife favours the "dual sort" as the swivelling part makes it easier to get our daughter in/out.

The 2 we have found in the UK are the Cybex Sinora and the Britax DualFix. Neither particularly cheap !

We favoured the Cybex, as it looked a little more roomier as she grows.

Our current cars are a Citroen C5 and Jaguar XJ8 (X350), so both with isofix & room.

Is there anything else we should be looking at, and is a none rotating seat such a pain

Adrian E

3,248 posts

178 months

Friday 11th October 2013
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With Isofix I'd say non-rotating is not a problem as you won't be trying to feed your child around straps to get them in. I'd add the Besafe to your list of seats to try and be prepared to travel to find most of what you want in stock in 1 place.

Seats that rotate add cost and complexity you don't really need - if you've got a really bad back then maybe worth it but in my experience by the time they're heavy enough to be a problem to your back they can pretty much clamber up into the seat themselves anyway! My son is 98%ile for weight and we didn't struggle getting him into his seat.

rswift

1,179 posts

177 months

Friday 11th October 2013
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Thank you.

We are luckily to be not far from the In Car Safety in Milton Keynes, who have a good selection.

Any recommendations for a rear only facing seat ?

Thank you

S10GTA

12,780 posts

169 months

Friday 11th October 2013
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Need some advice peeps please

Our lad is 9 months, big for his age and his rear facing seat is getting a bit small. A friend has sold me his Recaro Young explorer seat which we are going to use as the main seat in the main car, but we have a voucher to spend and felt a second seat for the other car woukld be useful.

Rather than buying a group 1 seat, we have been looking at a 1-2-3 seat with the idea was that it was in the second car for now, and we could then move it to be the main seat as he grows out the Recaro.

We felt the Britax Evolva 123 (http://www.mothercare.com/Britax-Evolva-123-Plus-High-Back-Booster-Car-Seat-with-Harness---Black-Thunder/548914,default,pd.html) was a reasonable second seat to serve this purpose

Any thoughts on the above? The recaro will be in a Honda Civic (2000) and the Britax in a C4 VTS (for now)

Edited by S10GTA on Friday 11th October 15:18

lenats31

438 posts

175 months

Friday 11th October 2013
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rswift said:
Thank you.

We are luckily to be not far from the In Car Safety in Milton Keynes, who have a good selection.

Any recommendations for a rear only facing seat ?

Thank you
My 6-year-old is still in a rearfacing seat sometimes. He climbs in on his own, and when he doesn´t, we just lift him up and put him into the seat facing us, take off his shoes and swing his legs around - as Adrian said - not a big problem.

I havent seen the Porche. But the C5 was here recently - very roomy car onless you are very tall. IF you do want the swirvel function - which in my openion is most effective in 3 door cars - I would go for the Dualfix. The size of the Dualfix cheats the eye. The Sirona is short. It is highly unlikely you get the same amount of time out of that one than the Dualfix.

Also the Sirona has the impact cushion. In order to be able to turn the seat forward facing you must remove the harness from the seat and use the cushion. I´m not keen on this type of restraining system. Test dummies cant meassure anything in the abdomen area and the lower neck. I know that serious injuries to the internal organs have occured in seats with impact cushion - spinal too. The Dualfix can be turned forwards and rearwards as you please. 5-point harness used in both directions. restrains the child on strong areas of the body.

Besafe are decent options too, and these are the easiest rearfacers to come by. They fit very well in the C5.

lenats31

438 posts

175 months

Friday 11th October 2013
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S10GTA said:
Need some advice peeps please

Our lad is 9 months, big for his age and his rear facing seat is getting a bit small. A friend has sold me his Recaro Young explorer seat which we are going to use as the main seat in the main car, but we have a voucher to spend and felt a second seat for the other car woukld be useful.

Rather than buying a group 1 seat, we have been looking at a 1-2-3 seat with the idea was that it was in the second car for now, and we could then move it to be the main seat as he grows out the Recaro.

We felt the Britax Evolva 123 (http://www.mothercare.com/Britax-Evolva-123-Plus-High-Back-Booster-Car-Seat-with-Harness---Black-Thunder/548914,default,pd.html) was a reasonable second seat to serve this purpose

Any thoughts on the above? The recaro will be in a Honda Civic (2000) and the Britax in a C4 VTS (for now)

Edited by S10GTA on Friday 11th October 15:18
Just don´t start using them as highback boosters too soon. He WILL reach 18 kg before the seats are outgrown. So I would use the 5-point harness up until 18 kg before removing the harnesses and start using them as booster seats. Don´t be tempted to use the 5-point harness beyond the 18 kg limit. The seats are not constructed for this. If you do use them like this to 20 or even 25 kg as I know some people do, then the harness system may not hold up if you crash. just a couple of more kgs means a huge amount of more stress on the harness system and the car seat.

browna

334 posts

185 months

Sunday 20th October 2013
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Hi, quick question.
I'm looking for a group 1 forward facing isofix seat for our 2005 civic 5 door.
I'm guessing britax or maxi cosi are the safest bettor quality.
Any specific recommendations?

Thnaks.

redchina

492 posts

263 months

Sunday 20th October 2013
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We got an old hand me down,
Didnt look at safety stats
Didnt look at new ones
Wont either
Happy.


callyman

3,154 posts

214 months

Sunday 20th October 2013
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redchina said:
We got an old hand me down,
Didnt look at safety stats
Didnt look at new ones
Wont either
Happy.
Best of luck.

boobles

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15,241 posts

217 months

Monday 21st October 2013
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callyman said:
redchina said:
We got an old hand me down,
Didnt look at safety stats
Didnt look at new ones
Wont either
Happy.
Best of luck.
What an odd way of caring about how safe the chils is or NOT.

PomBstard

6,877 posts

244 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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We're now expecting the arrival of PB Jr No3, and need a some car and seat advice - I'm looking for the narrowest seats available to go into either a 2007 Subaru Liberty/Legacy or a 2010 Forester. I need two boosters, and a rear-facing infant carrier. Britax Australia seems to have a good choice, and wondering if two HiLiner boosters with one of their baby capsules might be about as narrow as I can go. By the time I need to get a bigger infant seat, I'll only need one booster.

Isofix not allowed over here - all seats in the back need a top tether. Also, no infant seats in the front - can't disable the airbag.

Also, any thoughts about fitting three seats into the cars mentioned? I know I'll struggle to get three across the back of the 07 Forester we've currently got. I'm ignoring all the helpful advice about needing to get a 2-tonne seven-seater to pootle around the urban sprawl...

Edited by PomBstard on Tuesday 22 October 10:53

Engineer1

10,486 posts

211 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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redchina said:
We got an old hand me down,
Didnt look at safety stats
Didnt look at new ones
Wont either
Happy.
I'd buy second hand on almost every other bit of baby kit other than the car seat and the matress. How do you know the seat hasn't taken all the abuse it camn take?

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

232 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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Our daughter is now 9 months and just about 10kg.

We currently have the Stokke iZiSleep by BeSafe in the car (a Skoda Yeti) and frankly, she absolutely hates it. It's far too constricting and she just hates facing backwards as she can't see very much (as much of an issue with the Yeti's rear vis to be honest).

So as she's almost outgrown the iZiSleep we are looking to move up to the next stage. It will be going in the Yeti until May, then into a new Octavia Estate (vRS if that matters). I know the benefits etc of rear Vs front facing, but we will be going with front facing as she hates facing backwards so much.

So, any suggestions? Is it best to go for a Stage 1, or one that can expand to 2 and 3?

Thanks in advance, the advice you offer in this thread is absolutely invaluable!