SLEEPERS! Anyone have a street sleeper here?

[WCZ]

C7 JFW said:

Rear lights
Wheels
Stickers
Pressed plates

Thus, not a sleeper - regardless of what it'll consume on the motorway. And Front wheel drive + 550bhp.

jesus come on, that's a sleeper!

[anonymous-user]

The skoda is great in sleeper department but 50k plus I would be looking elsewhere.

[anonymous-user]

How about this?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1989-Ford-Escort-Van-2-1...



Never heard of a ZVH engine before. Apparently a Zetec block with CVH head, water pump etc. Good for 300hp so this van must fly.

[Escort3500]

[Stickyfinger]

yep.....100%

[micloi]

The Spruce goose said:

The skoda is great in sleeper department but 50k plus I would be looking elsewhere.

That's what I thought too but I did a search and brand new ones are circa 35k and demonstrators start from 26k.
That's for the 280 4x4 model! I think it's a bargain for a car almost as big as the Audi A8.

[anonymous-user]

RB Will said:

Think you might be overthinking the Sierra a bit. I have to admit if I'm driving along and see an old car I dont suddenly become suspicious its a sleeper.

Anyway how about this for a modern take, 500bhp 4x4 Transit Connect, yes it had alloys but loads of them do so it wouldnt make me think it was about to kick ass. Side exit exhaust might if I even noticed it, you wouldnt from behind

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Transit-Connect-Cos...

Weird how people go to the effort of building cars yet don't map them. It just makes me suspicious tbh.

[anonymous-user]

Mapping the car to work properly can be quite expensive on custom jobs, lots of trial and error, adds up the cost.

[anonymous-user]

The Spruce goose said:

Mapping the car to work properly can be quite expensive on custom jobs, lots of trial and error, adds up the cost.

More than £500?

[K8-600]

yonex said:

The Spruce goose said:

Mapping the car to work properly can be quite expensive on custom jobs, lots of trial and error, adds up the cost.

More than £500?

I spent £1350 mapping my Impreza first time around (including the cost of the ECU+sensors). I also had subsequent maps at about £300 each when I upgraded various bits of the engine/turbo.

[Steve93]

yonex said:

The Spruce goose said:

Mapping the car to work properly can be quite expensive on custom jobs, lots of trial and error, adds up the cost.

More than £500?

Mapping is not easy/cheap if doing it right.

[anonymous-user]

I've seen some mapping reported in the k's maybe 5k. it not like the generic maps that people have to 'remap', you are talking hundreds of parameters customer changed.

[Slow]

The Spruce goose said:

I've seen some mapping reported in the k's maybe 5k. it not like the generic maps that people have to 'remap', you are talking hundreds of parameters customer changed.

The actual mapping wouldnt be in the region of 5k. It would be providing a Ecu such as a haltech which would be a large cost. Then you have all the sensors the stock car didnt come with. Mapping isnt in itself a huge job, even at £100 a hour it can be done in a day from start easily.

[Du1point8]

5.5 liter AMG engine in combination with the corresponding powertrain, modern brake system, modified chassis.



4.3 liter V8 AMG engine, adapted powertrain, modern brake system, modified chassis, and safety features such as ABS and ASR


Do these class as sleepers?

[DoubleD]

No

[ikarl]

270bhp Astra

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/332114352253

[anonymous-user]

Steve93 said:

Mapping is not easy/cheap if doing it right.

I've had cars mapped, spent a day at the dyno swapping cams etc. My point was for £500 or so why wouldn't you do it, if you want to sell the car. Good haggling point for the buyer though?

[addz86]

^^yes! Chenshang tyres too

[Ilovejapcrap]

ikarl said:

270bhp Astra

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/332114352253

WInner

[Stickyfinger]

DoubleD said:

No

Show your workings