Awkward design details on production cars
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ajprice said:
Flumpo said:
An interior one for a change, but I can’t get my head round none of the buttons/edges lining up in the new 3 series centre.
That's one for the 'These pictures make my teeth itch' thread in the Lounge 
Flumpo said:
An interior one for a change, but I can’t get my head round none of the buttons/edges lining up in the new 3 series centre.
Except it’s not quite as bad as that in real life, some of that is parallax error. Particularly where the hand brake is...This is a view from my car taken above the centre console:
cmvtec said:
Muddle238 said:
Anything where lights mask other lights. Was about 100 yards behind a Tesla Model 3, the brake lights completely mask the indicator, which looks to be a single tiny LED.
Likewise the DRLs on a Nissan Qashcum completely mask the front indicators which are just inboard IIRC.
Mk5 Golf was particularly bad for this.Likewise the DRLs on a Nissan Qashcum completely mask the front indicators which are just inboard IIRC.
Rear indicator completed encapsulated by the circular brake light.
2Btoo said:
Cyder said:
Illuminated emblems that are standalone are currently not allowed.
Interesting, any idea why? (Apart from the fact that they would be hideously tasteless as I don't think that such prohibitions exist in law.)
They then had to retrospectively swap it for a non-illuminated one at considerable cost.
cmvtec said:
Muddle238 said:
Anything where lights mask other lights. Was about 100 yards behind a Tesla Model 3, the brake lights completely mask the indicator, which looks to be a single tiny LED.
Likewise the DRLs on a Nissan Qashcum completely mask the front indicators which are just inboard IIRC.
Mk5 Golf was particularly bad for this.Likewise the DRLs on a Nissan Qashcum completely mask the front indicators which are just inboard IIRC.
Rear indicator completed encapsulated by the circular brake light.
Before they discovered swoopy LED indicators, audis way of looking cool was to make the rear indicators as tiny as possible. A3 & A6 from around 2010 were the worst, I’ve almost missed an A6 indicating as they were too difficult to see.
Forever confused though who signed off on Qashqai indicators, all it needed was the DRL to be dimmed or shut off when the indicator was put on, so many other cars manage it.
I prefer LED indicators, with a few exceptions (Tesla model 3) you can’t miss them.
Forever confused though who signed off on Qashqai indicators, all it needed was the DRL to be dimmed or shut off when the indicator was put on, so many other cars manage it.
I prefer LED indicators, with a few exceptions (Tesla model 3) you can’t miss them.
I recently had the misfortune of driving a new Astra hire car.
The USB port was buried deep at the bottom of a narrow cubby in the dash, I couldn't fit my hand into the cubby while holding onto the USB cable trying to find the hole.
I was driving from Newcastle to London so wanted to use navigation via CarPlay. I had to get out of the car, lie on the passenger seat and use both hands like I was performing keyhole surgery to get the USB plug in. Got it sorted and then it inexplicably beeped at me all the way to London.
The USB port was buried deep at the bottom of a narrow cubby in the dash, I couldn't fit my hand into the cubby while holding onto the USB cable trying to find the hole.
I was driving from Newcastle to London so wanted to use navigation via CarPlay. I had to get out of the car, lie on the passenger seat and use both hands like I was performing keyhole surgery to get the USB plug in. Got it sorted and then it inexplicably beeped at me all the way to London.
paralla said:
I recently had the misfortune of driving a new Astra hire car.
The USB port was buried deep at the bottom of a narrow cubby in the dash, I couldn't fit my hand into the cubby while holding onto the USB cable trying to find the hole.
I was driving from Newcastle to London so wanted to use navigation via CarPlay. I had to get out of the car, lie on the passenger seat and use both hands like I was performing keyhole surgery to get the USB plug in. Got it sorted and then it inexplicably beeped at me all the way to London.
Not sure why Vauxhall would change it, but my 2017 Astra (still the current model, though pre facelift) has the USB in the centre armrest which is really easy to access. My complaint is that in a 2017 car there’s only one USB port.The USB port was buried deep at the bottom of a narrow cubby in the dash, I couldn't fit my hand into the cubby while holding onto the USB cable trying to find the hole.
I was driving from Newcastle to London so wanted to use navigation via CarPlay. I had to get out of the car, lie on the passenger seat and use both hands like I was performing keyhole surgery to get the USB plug in. Got it sorted and then it inexplicably beeped at me all the way to London.
carlove said:
Not sure why Vauxhall would change it, but my 2017 Astra (still the current model, though pre facelift) has the USB in the centre armrest which is really easy to access. My complaint is that in a 2017 car there’s only one USB port.
I looked in the centre armrest thinking there might be another one, nothing there. 
paralla said:
I recently had the misfortune of driving a new Astra hire car.
The USB port was buried deep at the bottom of a narrow cubby in the dash, I couldn't fit my hand into the cubby while holding onto the USB cable trying to find the hole.
I was driving from Newcastle to London so wanted to use navigation via CarPlay. I had to get out of the car, lie on the passenger seat and use both hands like I was performing keyhole surgery to get the USB plug in. Got it sorted and then it inexplicably beeped at me all the way to London.
In USB related chat, the last 2 brand new cars I’ve driven only have the new USB-C sockets (the oblong ones that work both ways up) and no original USBs at all. I have a few devices that receive the new type but nothing where the other end of the cable is too!The USB port was buried deep at the bottom of a narrow cubby in the dash, I couldn't fit my hand into the cubby while holding onto the USB cable trying to find the hole.
I was driving from Newcastle to London so wanted to use navigation via CarPlay. I had to get out of the car, lie on the passenger seat and use both hands like I was performing keyhole surgery to get the USB plug in. Got it sorted and then it inexplicably beeped at me all the way to London.
Matt Cup said:
BlackWidow13 said:
B pillar window doesn’t line up with the rest of the door join? 
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