Your views on 320SÝ

[+49]

Guys ive been looking at possible purchase of a 320si ive done a search on the froums and see most people dont seem to keen due to the modest power output but these views seem to be before the car was released reading a few reiviews (http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/200502/bmw_3series.html) and also watching a few vids on you tube (5th gear) its seems to get fairly rated

You can pick a nice one up for 17-18 which tbh is the same as most 320 sports but i was wondering if this car will hold ýts money alot better to give you an idea i am the kinda person who buys a car and keeps ýt 5-10 years possible so i want to hold its value or say drop to 8k and stay there possible go up years from now as long as is fast as my 1999 318is mtec im happy and it seems to handly very well by the reviews as for me handling and braking are the main things

not sure on a few things :
1.is the suspension and differnt from the stand m pack 320s
2.i am pretty sure the brakes are bigger
3.is the front bumper actual any diff from the m sports ? i know the mirrors are black but thats it
4.the engine seems to have alot of revisons made to the standard cars but only 23bhp increse a presume this engine is detuned has alot of headway for tuning and has any one done this if so to wat effects and costs
5.is the engine actual any further back than the normal 320
6.i think i read somewhere that the gearing is sligthly lower cant remeber tho is ýt a 6 speed or 5 ?

is drýven carfully around town is a possýble 35mpg possible ?

thanks for any advise views guys i hope there is an owner on the forums

[wideload]

+49 said:

Guys ive been looking at possible purchase of a 320si ive done a search on the froums and see most people dont seem to keen due to the modest power output but these views seem to be before the car was released reading a few reiviews (http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/200502/bmw_3series.html) and also watching a few vids on you tube (5th gear) its seems to get fairly rated

You can pick a nice one up for 17-18 which tbh is the same as most 320 sports but i was wondering if this car will hold ýts money alot better to give you an idea i am the kinda person who buys a car and keeps ýt 5-10 years possible so i want to hold its value or say drop to 8k and stay there possible go up years from now as long as is fast as my 1999 318is mtec im happy and it seems to handly very well by the reviews as for me handling and braking are the main things

not sure on a few things :
1.is the suspension and differnt from the stand m pack 320s
2.i am pretty sure the brakes are bigger
3.is the front bumper actual any diff from the m sports ? i know the mirrors are black but thats it
4.the engine seems to have alot of revisons made to the standard cars but only 23bhp increse a presume this engine is detuned has alot of headway for tuning and has any one done this if so to wat effects and costs
5.is the engine actual any further back than the normal 320
6.i think i read somewhere that the gearing is sligthly lower cant remeber tho is ýt a 6 speed or 5 ?

is drýven carfully around town is a possýble 35mpg possible ?

thanks for any advise views guys i hope there is an owner on the forums

please learn to spell and punctuate before you buy your new car. I don't know about the specification but wold imagine you would be looking at no more than about 25-28mpg unless you have the patience of a saint. I could only manage 25 from a standard 1.8 vectra.

[elster]

wideload said:

Please learn to spell and punctuate before you buy your new car. I don't know about the specification, but would imagine you would be looking at no more than about 25-28mpg unless you have the patience of a saint. I could only manage 25 from a standard 1.8 vectra.

If you are going to be a tt make an effort. I hate spelling Nazi's.

[stockver]

something on wikipedia said:

The 320si is a special homologation version, built in order to qualify the car for the FIA World Touring Car Championship (WTCC).[5] It was released in 2006 and limited to 2,600 units. The 320si uses a modified 4 cylinder engine (N45) different from the standard 320i (N46). Modifications include an increased redline to 7,300 rpm, a shortened stroke (by 2 mm), an increased bore (by 1 mm) and a higher compression ratio (11.0:1). The engine is mostly hand built and does not have Valvetronic, decreasing the number of moving parts. Acceleration from 0 to 100 km/h (62 mph) takes 8.1 seconds and acceleration in fourth gear from 80 km/h (50 mph) to 120 km/h (75 mph) takes 7.7 seconds compared with a standard 320i which achieves them in 9.0 and 9.1 seconds respectively. Fourth gear acceleration is comparable to that of the 325i which achieves the 80 to 120 km/h sprint in 7.5 seconds.

[+49]

Sorry about the above thread title , im in internet cafe in north cyprus and to type anything at all is fairly hard

have you guys looked at the actual prices of the 320si there less/same as normal 320 sports and 2-3 k less than 320d sports

For a car thats only 400 limited production and seems to be a great drive seems fairly cool to have one just if any1 could confirm the if any of the above things i mentioned are true.Some ppl are a bit in the dark some mags dont even mention the brakes are actual any biggers etc etc

Can a mod possible change the title for me as i dont think a can

Also on a seperate op i am lookin at a white one possibly i normal stay fairly safe with colours but white is looking so good latly and i reckon 15 years from now wen it comes to pickin a classic 320si it will be a nice colour to have ,i see alot of e90 m3s in white and they look the bizz what you guys reckon

thx for current advise and info guys , im really impressed with the roll on times in 4th being the same as a e90 325 since there around the same power as a e46 330 petrol i beilve around 230bhp ?

[a contrario]

elster said:

wideload said:

Please learn to spell and punctuate before you buy your new car. I don't know about the specification, but would imagine you would be looking at no more than about 25-28mpg unless you have the patience of a saint. I could only manage 25 from a standard 1.8 vectra.

If you are going to be a tt make an effort. I hate spelling Nazi's.

It does seem a little harsh to criticise the guy when, judging by his name and location, English probably isn't his first language.

Just my tuppence worth.

[a contrario]

+49, I don't know much about the car I'm afraid but I see one around regularly near where I live (in red) and it looks great.

Good review here:

http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/2005...

It might also be worth posting in the BMW section on this site. Good luck.

[+49]

Also just checking up on the standard car it seems to have the same power output as the 320Si ?

http://www.whatcar.co.uk/car-review-performance.as...

http://www.whatcar.co.uk/car-review-performance.as...

of course its not the same engine as the 320si it has vavletronic/low rev limit also i presume the fuel economy to be the same as the 320si http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/pricesandspecifications...

seems fairly impressive but knowing bmw this is way out also the loss of vavletronic proberly destroys this

looks to be a 6 speed model aswell , which is cool

[briSk]

if you were going to buy a 320 sport then buy the 320 si. otherwise it's a lot for waht it is. they sound nioce though!

i wonder if you'd get the mpg... the si junked all the valvetronic business..and that's what makes the normal 320i economical...

[+49]

briSk said:

if you were going to buy a 320 sport then buy the 320 si. otherwise it's a lot for waht it is. they sound nioce though!

i wonder if you'd get the mpg... the si junked all the valvetronic business..and that's what makes the normal 320i economical...

Hmm thats wat im saying about the petrol as tbh if i drive very varful around town i can get 25mpg in my 318is sounds rubbish but disel being 10% more in price its not that bad compared

[carl_w]

a contrario said:

It does seem a little harsh to criticise the guy when, judging by his name and location, English probably isn't his first language.

Just my tuppence worth.

I think he might also be typing on a keyboard that has "Ý" where "I" should be...

[Davey S2]

wideload said:

please learn to spell and punctuate before you buy your new car. I don't know about the specification but wold imagine you would be looking at no more than about 25-28mpg unless you have the patience of a saint.

[SleeperCell]

The problem with the 320Si and value is it's obscurity, most people have no idea what it is. If you were planning on keeping it 20-30 years in mint condition and relatively low mileage then it will be worth more than a normal 320 Sport, but it's never going to be much of an investment in real terms, unless a car magazine suddenly decides it's the next best thing to sliced bread or it otherwise becomes fashionable, and inflates the values. The problem the 320Si has it that it's pretty slow on the face of it, 170bhp and 0-60mph in 8 seconds are basically the sorts of figures you get in an old E30 325i Sport, so not much good for pub bragging rights. It is supposed to be much better to drive than other models though, and it has a factory LSD, probably the only non //M production BMW to have one since the E36 328i Sport. If you just want something great to drive and a bit special that only other enthusiasts will recognise and others will ignore then it's a good choice.

In terms of retained value I would expect a 135i Sport to hold it's value better than most other BMWs over the next few years.

[+49]

SleeperCell said:

The problem with the 320Si and value is it's obscurity, most people have no idea what it is. If you were planning on keeping it 20-30 years in mint condition and relatively low mileage then it will be worth more than a normal 320 Sport, but it's never going to be much of an investment in real terms, unless a car magazine suddenly decides it's the next best thing to sliced bread or it otherwise becomes fashionable, and inflates the values. The problem the 320Si has it that it's pretty slow on the face of it, 170bhp and 0-60mph in 8 seconds are basically the sorts of figures you get in an old E30 325i Sport, so not much good for pub bragging rights. It is supposed to be much better to drive than other models though, and it has a factory LSD, probably the only non //M production BMW to have one since the E36 328i Sport. If you just want something great to drive and a bit special that only other enthusiasts will recognise and others will ignore then it's a good choice.

In terms of retained value I would expect a 135i Sport to hold it's value better than most other BMWs over the next few years.

Hm lsd sounds good didnt know that, dont happen to know if the gearing is any diff or suspenion do ya mate?

Possibly migth go and view a few wen i get back in a couple of weeks ,did ring a few bmw dealers but as usual my mum has more bmw knowledge

thx