Monday 16th August 2010

TfL Edges Toward Borough-Wide Average Speed Camera

Tender for speed camera trial reveals TfL's intentions

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Transport for London is looking for a commercial partner for average speed camera trials across whole urban areas.

TfL published a notice in the Official Journal of the European Union on 10 August, saying that it will use the cameras as a trial to "enforce average speed limits in urban areas".

A TFL spokesperson told public-sector IT mag Government Computing News, however, that there were no firm plans for the trial as yet. "We are just looking to see who will apply at the moment," she said.

Apparently the tender is part of a ‘wider plan’, but no proper announcements on the project will be made until October at the earliest.

TfL did, however, say this: "We believe that speed cameras reduce the number of accidents on roads and save us money. For instance, cameras can be used as an alternative to road humps."

Sounds ominous to us…

[Wilburo]

I'd be supportive of this in genuinely urban areas. People shouldn't speed through pedestrian-strewn 30 zones like the areas surrounding Wimbledon. No speed-bumps sounds like heaven.

Just kee it to 30 zones, not NSL.

[wab172uk]

Labour big plan was to eventually roll it out Nation wide. Thus travel from town A to town B in less time than it should take doing signed speed-limits, and it's a £60 fine and 3 points.

Just hope Cameron puts a stop to this.

[David87]

"Government Computing News" - fun fun fun!

[anonymous-user]

Have they forgotten that we are supposed to be recovering debt in this country? Doesn't sound like spending cuts to me.

[Danny S]

Obviously i'm no fan of speedhumps but how the hell can it be cheaper than a circa £15k camera?

[Escort Si-130]

What a bunch of cock sucking wkers, its always a trial; they must think people are stupid. It is fking permanent,everything from these jackasses which they know the publc wont like they lie to say its a trial and then would ALWAYS declare it a successful trial even if it wasnt; bullsters

[chrisispringles]

To be honest I think it's pointless: to average 30 in London your going to have to be in a helicopter or bigfoot so the chances of them catching anybody averaging more than 35 (10%+2) is pretty much 0.

[grumbledoak]

They'll lower the limits to 20mph and ding you for exceeding it. Already doing it over Tower Bridge. Bunch of useless tossers, the government should start saving money swinging the axe right there.

[AdamLoewy]

How on earth do they plan to instigate this without completely ing up all the side streets with their peeping tom cameras everywhere?

[mybrainhurts]

And how many accidents are caused by excessive speed in urban areas?

Smacks of control freakery and the New Labour culture of punishment.

Elderly people suffer enormous stress when they get a ticket for what is usually a trivial infringement.

Those expressing support here ought to think of the implications if this takes hold countrywide.

[Mr Whippy]

Ugly, expensive and probably ineffective.

Try it in London by all means, they will soon realise how stupid it is before bothering elsewhere.

Dave

[Daniel1]

mybrainhurts said:

And how many accidents are caused by excessive speed in urban areas?

Smacks of control freakery and the New Labour culture of punishment.

Elderly people suffer enormous stress when they get a ticket for what is usually a trivial infringement.

Those expressing support here ought to think of the implications if this takes hold countrywide.

i also suffer a load of stress with speed cameras, i have to mark my hand everytime i go through one otherwise i get really paranoid

[alolympic]

Dare I say it, I would prefer more cameras to more speed humps. At least cameras don't cause more wear and tear on my car.

[mgv8]

Most cars I see driving way to fast in London look like tax/mot/insurance were an option not teken, and the log book is a work of fiction.
So as always the people who should realy be stoped are not as more cameras mean less police.

[johnhenry]

can see where they're coming from tbf! no problems with it, the idea of no speed bumps is heaven
just PLEASE keep it to urban areas

[rascal102]

Average driving speeds in London are so low that average speed cameras are surely a waste of money?

[Parrot of Doom]

alolympic said:

Dare I say it, I would prefer more cameras to more speed humps. At least cameras don't cause more wear and tear on my car.

No need for humps around here. The roads are so bad its like driving on the Moon.

[havoc]

There we go. When they announced all these SCPs were going I knew the sting had to be somewhere. AVERAGE fking speed-cameras!

mgv8 said:

Most cars I see driving way to fast in London look like tax/mot/insurance were an option not teken, and the log book is a work of fiction.
So as always the people who should realy be stoped are not as more cameras mean less police.

Agreed. Once again they're policing the easy-to-catch, otherwise-law-abiding person, not the scrote that knows how to work around the system. Utterly pointless...

[Denorth]

it is another trickery.

There will be no less speed bumps that there are now. They should've said : 'it's an alternative for the future speed humps'

it costs money to do both installation and removal of humps. So they will install cameras and NOT remove humps due to lack of funds. But of course they will promise not to install NEW humps.

Edited by Denorth on Friday 13th August 12:47

[timewatch]

Two faced Tory/Dems, I thought they were doing away with speed cameras?

This looks like a Big Brother increase in these Cash generators.

Y'know "all" Politicians are two faced bds!!!

Give us a break from the despair you relentlessly press on Joe public, FFS it's time YOU politicians realised that it's not
all about the hurt you can impose on us British slaves!!!!!

Or is it always the case you can have Candy but we have to Birch you first!!!!

TW>>>