RE: Ferrari 488 GTB - official

RE: Ferrari 488 GTB - official

Tuesday 3rd February 2015

Ferrari 488 GTB - official

Twin-turbo 670hp V8 confirmed for Ferrari's 458 Italia replacement - full details



So, farewell screaming normally aspirated V8s in mid-engined Ferraris. Yes, the Ferrari 488 GTB making its debut at Geneva and replacement for the much loved 458 Italia will be turbocharged. Muttering into your beard about the end of an era and technology spoiling the fun? You might want to pause when you hear the stats - 670hp at 8,000rpm for starters, 100hp more than the 458 and 65hp more than the Speciale. Or how about 560lb ft of torque, up from the standard 458's 398lb ft and now yours from 3,000rpm rather than the 6,000rpm. More numbers? OK, try 0-62 in three seconds dead and 0-125mph in 8.3 seconds - eight tenths faster than a Speciale. Eight tenths! Top speed is 209mph or thereabouts and the 1min 23sec Fiorano time is half a second quicker than the Speciale too.

Side vents apparently inspired by 308
Side vents apparently inspired by 308
Still not convinced? Let's look back at the last time Ferrari put turbos into a mid-engined V8 Berlinetta and ponder the heritage of the 288 GTO and the F40 it spawned. Yeah, forced induction Ferraris are so dull aren't they...

If that outright performance gain isn't enough for you consider also that the 488 GTB has active aero, a blown rear wing and combines 50 per cent more downforce and reduced drag. Putting that power to the road is a gearbox we'll presume is based on the familiar dual-clutch seven-speed unit (Ferrari doesn't say) featuring Variable Torque Management which "unleashes the massive torque smoothly and powerfully right across the rev range" as per the turbocharged California T.

The 488 also features an "evolved" version of the Speciale's supernatural Side Slip Angle Control - Ferrari's face saving technology that allows even the ham-fisted look like driving gods thanks to its management of the F1-Trac stability control and E-Diff. SSC2 now works with the active dampers too, Ferrari tactfully saying it gives "track-level performance that can be enjoyed to the full even by non-professional drivers in everyday use."

V8 now with turbos and much more power
V8 now with turbos and much more power
Meaning, basically, Ferrari has simply raised the bar for the level of muppetry required to wrap the 488 round a piece of Mayfair street furniture. How long before an owner obliges with a demonstration? Place your bets...

Moving swiftly on, consider also that even with all this additional tech the 1,370kg 488 GTB weighs 10kg less than a standard 458 Italia, albeit with the caveat that Ferrari's quoted weights are always recorded dry and as the small print reveals "with lightweight options" fitted. The initial press release doesn't mention construction materials but Ferrari has previously stated its intention to stick with aluminium spaceframes for all but LaFerrari-grade specials. At this point you'll be looking for the inevitable comparison with the all-carbon McLaren 650S, the coupe version of that car starting at 1,330kg dry.

Blown rear wing and 50 per cent more downforce
Blown rear wing and 50 per cent more downforce
The adoption of turbos may be considered by some as a dilution of the character that made the contest between the McLaren and Ferrari V8s so compelling. Boosty, whooshing McLaren or screaming, hot-blooded Ferrari - each brilliant in its own right and making for one of the great supercar rivalries of recent times. To remain competitive in important markets like China Ferrari needed to go sub 4.0-litre - the McLaren is of course a 3.8 - and turbos were inevitable; you can be sure much effort will have gone into making the 488 sound as good as the 458 and Ferrari promises "a new soundtrack that is full, clear and totally distinctive."

This, of course, leaves the 5.2-litre V10 Huracan as the last bastion of big capacity naturally aspirated power in this class. A rebellious USP that plays well to Lamborghini tradition if not sales potential in those markets with punitive taxes on big engines.

With this, the Porsche 911 GT3 RS, Aston's track-ready Vantage GT3, a much-updated Lotus Evora and (no doubt) more besides Geneva is shaping up to be a vintage show for lovers of fast and exotic motors. Don't forget McLaren's offering too, the new 675 LT featuring a provocative 5hp of additional bragging rights over the new Ferrari in a high rollers' game of Top Trumps we can all enjoy.


FERRARI 488 GTB
Engine:
3,902cc V8, twin-turbo
Transmission: TBC
Power (hp): 670@8,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 560@3,000rpm
0-62mph: 3.0sec
Top speed: 209mph
Weight: 1,370kg (Dry, with "lightweight options")
MPG: 24.8mpg (NEDC combined)
CO2: 260g/km
Price: TBC

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ocrx8

Original Poster:

868 posts

198 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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Yes. Please. Fingers crossed adding turbos hasn't ruined the engine sound.

alexpa

644 posts

174 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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Yes please!

However, no thanks to the new Pistonheads layout..

Falsey

449 posts

141 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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The 488 Scud and Speciale are going to be pretty mental.

Amirhussain

11,490 posts

165 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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alexpa said:
Yes please!

However, no thanks to the new Pistonheads layout..
Agree both parts. New layout is awful. The car however is cloud9 . Weren't there rumours the 458 replacement was going to be a turbo V6?

gsuk1

121 posts

153 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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Is it me or are Ferraris steadily becoming less and less desirable...

Perhaps its just me but i'm not keen on this.

dazwalsh

6,098 posts

143 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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Yeah me neither, too many cut outs and grilles spoiling an otherwise lovely overall shape. They lost their way after the 360 and 430, although I do like the f12.

bobo

1,702 posts

280 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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looks awesome.... great styling.

that door handle is so low lol


vescaegg

25,805 posts

169 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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Amazing.

Every time Ferrari release a car it beats the previous one around Fiorano. Where will it end?!

How far down the rankings is the Enzo now? I seem to remember people thinking it was probably at the limit of how fast the track could be driven.

How times/tech change.


Are all the speciale's sold now? Id be a tad dissapointed if I had ordered and hadnt even recieved it yet before this was announced!

Dave Hedgehog

14,634 posts

206 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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gsuk1 said:
Is it me or are Ferraris steadily becoming less and less desirable...

Perhaps its just me but i'm not keen on this.
visually its disgusting, every single sq cm has had some sort of styling detail done to it

its a total mess imo


JDMDrifter

4,042 posts

167 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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I'm in love, can i have some time alone cloud9

matpilch

246 posts

142 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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if it wasn't for the engine, we'd be calling this a facelifting

Mini 360

42 posts

178 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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vescaegg said:
Id be a tad dissapointed if I had ordered and hadnt even recieved it yet before this was announced!
I wouldnt be. The final coupe with a N/A engine, limited run and a hoot to drive. It will maybe dip in value briefly but it will have strong residuals. Same could be said for the 360CS being replaced by the 430 which was better in every way. The 430 Scuderia being replaced by the 458 Italia which was better in every way.

A 360 will cost you what? Upwards of £50k nowadays? A 360 CS is nearly £200k. A 430, is around £80-100 and its technically the better car. The limited run, 'balls to the wall' run out models will always keep their value over the next generations standard car due to desirability and rarity.

whythem

773 posts

179 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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Does todays supercar performance requirements now mean that it is impossible to build pretty cars anymore? whatever pretty cars look likesmile

POORCARDEALER

8,528 posts

243 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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Yuk.

Similar looking to Mclaren.

soad

32,988 posts

178 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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Mini 360 said:
A 360 CS is nearly £200k.
They were half that (not too long ago). frown

gsuk1

121 posts

153 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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I dont like those air intakes on the rear hips.

And I know everything has to be turbo charged at the moment, but why? I understand the emissions gains on cars that sell in there thousands, but how many of these are they actually going to make? And then how miles are they actually going to be driven, rather than locked up under covers? And hence what's the total carbon output of Ferrari's... its tiny! Hence why bother ruining them with turbo's. It'll make no difference to the planet at all.


daytona365

1,773 posts

166 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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whythem said:
Does todays supercar performance requirements now mean that it is impossible to build pretty cars anymore? whatever pretty cars look likesmile
.....Exactly. The Dino was perhaps the prettiest, but it only had a piffling 195 bhp.

mrclav

1,338 posts

225 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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alexpa said:
no thanks to the new Pistonheads layout..
Absolutely agree - it's actually very annoying indeed. The car though - sweet Mary...

soad

32,988 posts

178 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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Amirhussain said:
Weren't there rumours the 458 replacement was going to be a turbo V6?
Traditional Ferrari naming - 488 is the cc's of one of its cylinders (488 x 8 = 3902/4cc).

Vee12V

1,341 posts

162 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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Impressive numbers, but I'll take a Speciale (A) over this any day of the week.