i bought a stolen car in good faith

i bought a stolen car in good faith

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malichi

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5 posts

136 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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hi can i get some advice here please
November 2012 I saw an advert on the Auto Trader website for a car which i thought was perfect, it was for a BMW X6 XDrive 2009 going for £22,000. I was over the moon because i had been looking for a 4X4 vehicle for a long time and this one in particular was right up my budget. I contacted the seller and over the telephone we came to an agreement that the seller would accept £21,500 cash. With that settlement I went ahead and ran a HPI check on the vehicle and it came back clear so I proceeded to make my way were the seller was waiting for me.
I arrived to the train station and got a cab to the address that the seller had given me
Drove about a minutes to the house, the seller told me that he was the son of the seller his father got him to meet me last minute.
I did not see anything strange about that. I proceeded in what I traveled to the location and checked out the car VIN was correct and did a test drive everything looked normal with the vehicle I was very happy with the condition of the car. We went into the house which I assumed was the sellers sons house it looked very normal and lived in. in the kitchen i handed over the cash and the sellers son handed me the paper work for the car included the MOT/service history book and car v5c documents and the Manuel book for the car. I left the area very happy with my car.

a week later i sent the log book to DVLA to register as the new owner of the car about 2 weeks later I received a letter from the metropolitan police informing me that they have received a letter from the DVLA for a new keeper but they need to come.

On the 09/01/12 the police investigators came to my property to run checks on the car and they informed me that the car was actually a clone it had been stolen and made to look legit the number plate had been changed and so was the VIN So the car has been taken away by the police I and my pregnant girlfriend are £21,500 out of pocket we are expecting our first child. Now I don’t know what to do any advice

A3tdi

268 posts

184 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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That is awful.

Did the police mention what course of action you may be able to take? or have you spoken to a solicitor at all?

I wish you the best of luck with sorting this..

Blue Oval84

5,277 posts

162 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Sorry to hear of your situation, that really sucks frown

I've heard that you can enter negotiations with the insurance company that probably now own the car and try and buy it off them, assuming it hasn't been returned to it's original owner.

Good luck!

C. Grimsley

1,364 posts

196 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Sorry to hear of this, a friend of mine also fell foul with a BMW x5 about five years ago, in the end he had to give the insurance company £5000 and he got to keep the car.

It's always the way if something is too cheap there is always a tale. His x5 was cheap at the time.

Carl

Caulkhead

4,938 posts

158 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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malichi said:
hi can i get some advice here please
November 2012 I saw an advert on the Auto Trader website for a car which i thought was perfect, it was for a BMW X6 XDrive 2009 going for £22,000. I was over the moon because i had been looking for a 4X4 vehicle for a long time and this one in particular was right up my budget. I contacted the seller and over the telephone we came to an agreement that the seller would accept £21,500 cash. With that settlement I went ahead and ran a HPI check on the vehicle and it came back clear so I proceeded to make my way were the seller was waiting for me.
I arrived to the train station and got a cab to the address that the seller had given me
Drove about a minutes to the house, the seller told me that he was the son of the seller his father got him to meet me last minute.
I did not see anything strange about that. I proceeded in what I traveled to the location and checked out the car VIN was correct and did a test drive everything looked normal with the vehicle I was very happy with the condition of the car. We went into the house which I assumed was the sellers sons house it looked very normal and lived in. in the kitchen i handed over the cash and the sellers son handed me the paper work for the car included the MOT/service history book and car v5c documents and the Manuel book for the car. I left the area very happy with my car.

a week later i sent the log book to DVLA to register as the new owner of the car about 2 weeks later I received a letter from the metropolitan police informing me that they have received a letter from the DVLA for a new keeper but they need to come.

On the 09/01/12 the police investigators came to my property to run checks on the car and they informed me that the car was actually a clone it had been stolen and made to look legit the number plate had been changed and so was the VIN So the car has been taken away by the police I and my pregnant girlfriend are £21,500 out of pocket we are expecting our first child. Now I don’t know what to do any advice
Claim back your £21500 from HPI using the HPI guarantee.

tleefox

1,110 posts

149 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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malichi said:
it was for a BMW X6 XDrive 2009 going for £22,000. I was over the moon because i had been looking for a 4X4 vehicle for a long time and this one in particular was right up my budget. I contacted the seller and over the telephone we came to an agreement that the seller would accept £21,500 cash.
Far too cheap - if it sounds too good to be true it probably is.

Deva Link

26,934 posts

246 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Not sure the OP is genuine.

If it is, OK, he's lost £21,500. On the upside, he's lucky he didn't get killed.

v8will

3,301 posts

197 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Awful luck.

Gives the case for buying from a franchised dealer alot of weight...

Hope you get sorted OP.

Deva Link

26,934 posts

246 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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anonymous said:
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Not sure about that, but the deal can't be in cash and it has to be at the address on the V5C.

hman

7,487 posts

195 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Jesus, sorry to hear about this.

Am very surprised about hpi having nothing to protect against ringers...

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

256 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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hman said:
Jesus, sorry to hear about this.

Am very surprised about hpi having nothing to protect against ringers...
Not surprising at all. How can they be expected to give out money for what to them is a legit car?

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Caulkhead said:
Claim back your £21500 from HPI using the HPI guarantee.
http://www.hpicheck.com/furniture/guarantee.html

'If you are buying the vehicle privately, you must buy it from the keeper, at the address shown on the V5. You must also check the identity of the seller.

You must buy the vehicle in a reasonably prudent manner (for example - claims will not be considered if you have paid 30% below the retail market value).'

hman

7,487 posts

195 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Also, expect the problem with keyless BMW's going missing may increase the likelihood of this happening

Caulkhead

4,938 posts

158 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Deva Link said:
anonymous said:
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Not sure about that, but the deal can't be in cash and it has to be at the address on the V5C.
Correct, this is where the OP failed I'm afraid.

rb5er

11,657 posts

173 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Thats a horrible thing to happen. Good luck OP. Have you been back to the address where you bought the car? Are the police investigating?

Edited by rb5er on Monday 14th January 23:02

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

247 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Deva Link said:
Not sure about that, but the deal can't be in cash and it has to be at the address on the V5C.
Yes, those are the minimum sensible precautions.

Sargeant Orange

2,729 posts

148 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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What a st situation. Keep on top of the police, hopefully you'll have some luck.

What area of the Country was it?

edo

16,699 posts

266 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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I'm very sorry to hear you have got done over, but a quick look on Auto-trader shows (as another poster has said) that this is close on £10k too cheap for an X6, in fact there isn't one on auto-trader under £25k, and that is a 2008 with 91,000 miles on.

Was the V5 address the one you met at, and did you see any ID from the seller?

icetea

846 posts

143 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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So you paid in cash and at thousands of pounds less than any other same age X6 is for sale on Auto Trader.... fool and their money I guess.

Harsh maybe but if half wits weren't buying the stolen cars, other people wouldn't be getting their doors kicked in to steal them in the first place.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

205 months

Monday 14th January 2013
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Op, what details did you input when doing be hpi check? Specifically did you submit the v5
Serial number (not document ref) and issue date?