Campaign launched over 'dazzling' HID's
Discussion
Ironically, pretty much every black cab driver seems to want to make their car as inconspicious as possible at night by driving on sidelights only, including down the M4 from Heathrow...
(Yes, I'm aware that in built-up areas where street lighting is less than 100m apart, it is technically legal to drive on sidelights only, but why you would want to make your car less noticeable than legally possible baffles me...)
(Yes, I'm aware that in built-up areas where street lighting is less than 100m apart, it is technically legal to drive on sidelights only, but why you would want to make your car less noticeable than legally possible baffles me...)
TheEnd said:
That'll be from the same people that cry and get angry all day when they see a car with foglights on...
Not really are they. HID's are just headlights that have to be turned on by law at night or in reduced visibility. You can use them whenever you want, if you want Fog's are illegal if visibilty is above certain limits.
king hell, HIDs, the world is ending.Isn't it amazing that they can produce this sort of item, and do so little research that they don't even mention the real problem.
It is highly likely that the problem Ken is having is with aftermarket installations of HID's, or incorrect bulbs.
Even the guy representing the motor industry failed to point out that manufacturer installed Bi Xenons have to be self levelling etc, which didn't apply to Halogens, which badly adjusted are much more likely to dazzle.
It is highly likely that the problem Ken is having is with aftermarket installations of HID's, or incorrect bulbs.
Even the guy representing the motor industry failed to point out that manufacturer installed Bi Xenons have to be self levelling etc, which didn't apply to Halogens, which badly adjusted are much more likely to dazzle.
TheEnd said:
That'll be from the same people that cry and get angry all day when they see a car with foglights on...
whilst it's a bad habit, I've never been 'dazzled' by them either.;
surely there's a (relatively) easy solution? HIDs (no apostrophe
) are useful for seeing further (i.e. full beam conditions) hazardous with others around (dipped beam) so why not specify max. lumens as a requirement on dipped only?bozmandb9 said:
Isn't it amazing that they can produce this sort of item, and do so little research that they don't even mention the real problem.
It is highly likely that the problem Ken is having is with aftermarket installations of HID's, or incorrect bulbs.
Even the guy representing the motor industry failed to point out that manufacturer installed Bi Xenons have to be self levelling etc, which didn't apply to Halogens, which badly adjusted are much more likely to dazzle.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...It is highly likely that the problem Ken is having is with aftermarket installations of HID's, or incorrect bulbs.
Even the guy representing the motor industry failed to point out that manufacturer installed Bi Xenons have to be self levelling etc, which didn't apply to Halogens, which badly adjusted are much more likely to dazzle.
All I know is that if I have to go back to the standard halogens rather than the HID kit I have fitted I'll not be happy I can see 100x better than with the stock candles in jam jar lights.
I had no real choice in the matter in the search for a brighter bulb as Osram don't make a H13 fit super-bright Halogen bulb. I had tried supposed super-bright bulbs from the 'States numerous times but I got hacked off with poor lamp life, the fact that the "white" lights were far too blue for my tastes and that they were no brighter than the stock bulbs, for $60 plus $25 shipping (so not cheap ebay rubbish) they really annoyed me in how poor they were.
Can't say I have ever had a flash from another car to say I am dazzling them, though the fact that I went for the "low power" 35w (rather than the 55w fitted by most) and the lights are a US dipped beam type might explain this as the lights have a fairly low cut off height.
To be fair halogen and HIDs will be replaced by super-bright LED headlights within the next few years anyway.
I had no real choice in the matter in the search for a brighter bulb as Osram don't make a H13 fit super-bright Halogen bulb. I had tried supposed super-bright bulbs from the 'States numerous times but I got hacked off with poor lamp life, the fact that the "white" lights were far too blue for my tastes and that they were no brighter than the stock bulbs, for $60 plus $25 shipping (so not cheap ebay rubbish) they really annoyed me in how poor they were.
Can't say I have ever had a flash from another car to say I am dazzling them, though the fact that I went for the "low power" 35w (rather than the 55w fitted by most) and the lights are a US dipped beam type might explain this as the lights have a fairly low cut off height.
To be fair halogen and HIDs will be replaced by super-bright LED headlights within the next few years anyway.
anonymous said:
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Spot on mate, exactly what I was going to post.Far too many corsa's/astra's driven by barryboy "types" with cheap tacky bulbs/set-ups that blind everyone. You also have others (usually 4x4's) that have got the beam set too high.
HID's are excellent provided they are set-up/aimed properly.
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