RE: Time For Tea? more Alfa Romeos...

RE: Time For Tea? more Alfa Romeos...

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PascalBuyens

2,868 posts

288 months

Saturday 23rd February 2013
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allegerita said:
why on earth do people always want to put MUSIC under a video once an older car gets in sight? I don't get it. I really don't.
Not just for an older car... ANY car video should be forbidden to have any music other than the sound of the engine.

The "objects in mirror are losing" made me chuckle though smile

stephen300o

15,464 posts

234 months

Saturday 23rd February 2013
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Didn't find the music too intrusive on this one, the retro vibe fitted quite well.

sparkyhx

4,189 posts

210 months

Saturday 23rd February 2013
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One guy on SXOC did a SR20DET transplant into a scuderia






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stephen300o

15,464 posts

234 months

Saturday 23rd February 2013
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Jesus Christ! That's a no from me.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

261 months

Saturday 23rd February 2013
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sparkyhx said:
One guy on SXOC did a SR20DET transplant into a scuderia

Build Thread here
http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?497694-Alfa...
That was quite an upsetting read.

Take one lovely tidy and original Alfa GT. Add a Japanese 4 pot turbo all with the character and sound of a fart. Chop out the bulkhead and fabricate new larger one to make the gearbox fit, and add stupid floor mounted pedalbox as original pedals no longer fit. Chop original petrol tank in half and turn it into part of the boot floor. Make the most hideous abortion of a steering linkage that gagging to knock out the tracking on every other bump. Fit nasty modern suede steering wheel.

To be fair the quality of the fabrication looks excellent, and obviously it's his car to do with whatever he wants. He has ruined it however, especially as one of his stated goals was :

"One of my key objectives was to be sympathetic with the conversion and not destroy the car. Whilst it may be modified there is no reason that some day in the future the owner (whether it is me or not) could put the car back to original if they wanted to."

edinph

387 posts

180 months

Saturday 23rd February 2013
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All I can hear is stupid music not glorious engines!

errek72

943 posts

252 months

Saturday 23rd February 2013
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Mr2Mike said:
That was quite an upsetting read.
Not good for the stomach. On the other hand, looks like a reversible job. Something for the next owner. Looks pretty good still, worth saving.

DeltaEvo2

871 posts

198 months

Saturday 23rd February 2013
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Alfa for ever! So beautiful! smile

chelme

1,353 posts

176 months

Saturday 23rd February 2013
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stephen300o said:
Jesus Christ! That's a no from me.
+ 1.I don't understand Jim's logic. Alfaholics transplants modern Alfa twin spark engines, and altough I don't agree with this, there is at least a line running from the old twin cam through to the early twin spark engines. The Nissan engine is not even charismatic, like say the Honda VTEC is. Perhps it was a question of cost. I know tuning an existing unit to produce 200+ bhp is very costly, (just ask Alfoholics) but hey each to their own...

Gene Vincent

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4,002 posts

164 months

Saturday 23rd February 2013
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It's not what I call a 'sympathetic' conversion so doesn't get a thumbs up from me, looks great from the outside but it's a 'cross-species' heart transplant... at a stretch I could embrace a nice 2.5 GTV V6 transplant (carbs) at least there is some provenance in that. (and the V6 does sound fking glorious)

Agent Orange

2,194 posts

252 months

Saturday 23rd February 2013
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Oh god that is one of the best automotive views available



Shame they aren't Caterham money these days otherwise I'd swap in a heart beat.

edbock

8 posts

230 months

Saturday 23rd February 2013
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+1
Jonny TVR said:
love the police car

ghamish

3 posts

140 months

Sunday 24th February 2013
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Mr2Mike said:
That was quite an upsetting read.

Take one lovely tidy and original Alfa GT. Add a Japanese 4 pot turbo all with the character and sound of a fart. Chop out the bulkhead and fabricate new larger one to make the gearbox fit, and add stupid floor mounted pedalbox as original pedals no longer fit. Chop original petrol tank in half and turn it into part of the boot floor. Make the most hideous abortion of a steering linkage that gagging to knock out the tracking on every other bump. Fit nasty modern suede steering wheel.
Being the owner of a part restored 1750 GTV, seeing that swap prompted me to join up & comment. In general I agree with what you say - as soon as he cut into the firewall it went well beyond 'sympathetic' into the territory of bdisation. These cars are starting to get a bit too rare & special to chop up like that, just to fit a "better" engine.

What particularly bugs me about it, is if he wants turbo performance, he could have turbocharged an original Alfa engine to make more than enough power for the 105 chassis to cope with, rather than create this mongrel. It just seems so unnecessary to me to wreck a nice step-front like that.

PS. I like this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn6CrOQlcpk linked in the other Alfa thread of the 1300 Junior, beautiful looking car, and you gotta love the unadulterated induction note of those webers smile

Edited by ghamish on Sunday 24th February 13:42

dinkel

27,157 posts

264 months

Sunday 24th February 2013
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Agent Orange said:
Oh god that is one of the best automotive views available



Shame they aren't Caterham money these days otherwise I'd swap in a heart beat.
Thank you sir:








MonkeySpanker

319 posts

143 months

Monday 25th February 2013
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Hulk Hogan's looking a bit thin these days wink

Alfaholic1750

30 posts

209 months

Monday 25th February 2013
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This is my 1969 MK1 GTV at Goodwood....


jimgiblett

48 posts

266 months

Wednesday 4th September 2013
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Interesting feedback. I had always expected differing views. smile

Funnily enough I call it a mongrel too

Jim



ghamish said:
Being the owner of a part restored 1750 GTV, seeing that swap prompted me to join up & comment. In general I agree with what you say - as soon as he cut into the firewall it went well beyond 'sympathetic' into the territory of bdisation. These cars are starting to get a bit too rare & special to chop up like that, just to fit a "better" engine.

What particularly bugs me about it, is if he wants turbo performance, he could have turbocharged an original Alfa engine to make more than enough power for the 105 chassis to cope with, rather than create this mongrel. It just seems so unnecessary to me to wreck a nice step-front like that.

PS. I like this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn6CrOQlcpk linked in the other Alfa thread of the 1300 Junior, beautiful looking car, and you gotta love the unadulterated induction note of those webers smile

Edited by ghamish on Sunday 24th February 13:42